At $4, Everybody Gets Rational
Grab our Forum Feed

+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 7 of 7

Thread: At $4, Everybody Gets Rational

  1. #1

    Default At $4, Everybody Gets Rational

    This is an interesting article in the Washington Post.

    -----------
    By Charles Krauthammer
    Friday, June 6, 2008; Page A19

    So now we know: The price point is $4.
    At $3 a gallon, Americans just grin and bear it, suck it up and, while complaining profusely, keep driving like crazy. At $4, it is a world transformed.
    ----------

    Here’s the link to the full article:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...060503434.html
    BTN

    2005 Chrysler Crossfire Ltd Roadster
    2002 Mustang GT
    1997 Jaguar XK8 Coupe

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Indian Harbour Beach, FL
    Posts
    4,085

    Default

    I read that link, and it is foolish. Money in the hands of government is far from guarenteed to stay in the US, as they are so eager to use it to send food and aid to Africa, where it only collapses their agricultural economies and gives leverage to ruthless thug governments.

    If you don't want money going overseas, then don't import energy, and allow prices in the US to rise to a point where energy companies can pursue alternatives, including harder to extract oil reserves.

  3. Angry Taxing gas will send more money to the oil war

    It will just bankrupt the country quicker. Im so pissed I wish we should all quit our jobs in the whole USA and show Uncle Sam who the real boss is and not give them fukkers a dime.

  4.  

    Advertisement

  5. #4

    Default

    Although I hate taxes, I think the government will give subsidies to lower the cost of electric cars in the form of tax credits or rebates. Like it or not, taxes are used for social engineering. If you want to discourage buying gas, tax it and use that money to provide funding for the electric car rebates. Do we want energy independence or not?

    During the oil crisis and embargo in the 70’s gas was rationed by odd and even days, everyone was aware of our dependence of foreign oil. There was a scramble of to find new oil fields, and big money was spent on starting oil shale projects. OPEC was concerned about loosing control of the oil market and increased production. Within a year or two, things were back to normal and most of the projects that were in development were canceled. We went back to our gas guzzling ways.

    2008
    If OPEC opens up production and drives the cost of gas down below $2.00, nobody will want an electric car and we will repeat the same mistake we made 35 years ago, by doing nothing. Since $4 appears to be the price that got everybody’s attention, I would say have a variable tax on gas, so the price at the pump is not less that $4 and use the tax money collected to lower the cost of the electric cars. Although this favors the new car buyer, the used car buyer will benefit, when many new electric cars are sold. The successful launch of the electric car will create a good used market of electric vehicles in 5 years.

    This type tax is much easier to administer and should get positive results. I think the electric hybrid will revolutionize the way we live and will create a much cleaner planet.

    The bureaucracy that will be created with a cap and trade carbon tax will have little or no benefits.
    BTN

    2005 Chrysler Crossfire Ltd Roadster
    2002 Mustang GT
    1997 Jaguar XK8 Coupe

  6. #5
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Southeast Michigan
    Posts
    311

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by BestTimesNow View Post
    OPEC was concerned about loosing control of the oil market and increased production. Within a year or two, things were back to normal and most of the projects that were in development were canceled. We went back to our gas guzzling ways.

    2008
    If OPEC opens up production and drives the cost of gas down below $2.00, nobody will want an electric car.
    That's assuming such high prices are artificial. But I believe true supply/demand is at work here.

  7. #6

    Default

    Yes, I agree that $4 is a reflection of the current supply-demand curve. If they up the oil production, the gas prices will come down. (Granted there is a maximum production limit, I hope we learn a lesson, prior to hitting the brick wall.)

    OPEC sets production limits each of the OPEC country’s production rates.

    Here’s a link to a news story just released:

    “The current president of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, Chakib Khelil, has said that the cartel will make no new decision on production levels until its Sept. 9 meeting in Vienna.“

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080607/...ge/oil_meeting

    $2.00 gas will kill the electric car and the US will still be addicted to foreign oil.
    Last edited by BestTimesNow; 06-07-2008 at 05:05 PM.
    BTN

    2005 Chrysler Crossfire Ltd Roadster
    2002 Mustang GT
    1997 Jaguar XK8 Coupe

  8. #7

    Default

    The WSJ will have this story in Monday's paper.

    ------------
    Top Car Dealer Says High Gas Prices
    Are Good for the U.S. Auto Industry

    AutoNation CEO Says Increase Will Drive Demand
    For Hybrids, Electric Cars and Other Alternatives
    June 9, 2008

    "For once we actually have viable alternatives and exciting technology that are really game changers" in the effort to wean transportation from petroleum, says Mike Jackson, chairman and chief executive officer of AutoNation Inc. "However, if the price of petroleum goes down … it undercuts the viability of new technology."

    ----------------
    See WSJ for the whole article if this link doesn't work;

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/h?s=GM

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Here he is on CNBC last week. Watch the video. Great minds think alike! Ha Ha

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/24874256/site...t%7C&par=yahoo
    Last edited by BestTimesNow; 06-09-2008 at 06:35 AM.
    BTN

    2005 Chrysler Crossfire Ltd Roadster
    2002 Mustang GT
    1997 Jaguar XK8 Coupe

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts