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\nElon admits workers are “having a hard time, working long hours, and on hard jobs”.
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    \r\n UAW Marketing Dept. You know those folk who got rid of the California auto industry the first time? They want to do it a second time.\r\n
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    UAW Marketing Dept. You know those folk who got rid of the California auto industry the first time? They want to do it a second time.
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    \nUAW marketing department just make this up too?
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    \n"Tesla’s manufacturing practices appear to have been most dangerous in its earliest years of operations. The company does not dispute that its recordable incident rate (TRIR), an official measure of injuries and illnesses that is reported to workplace safety regulators, was above the industry average between 2013 and 2016.
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    \nTesla declined to release data over those four years, saying such information “doesn’t reflect how the factory operates today”.

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    \nHowever, some Tesla workers argue the company’s treatment of injured workers discourages them from reporting their injuries. If workers are assigned to “light duty” work because of an injury, they are paid a lower wage as well as supplemental benefits from workers’ compensation insurance, a practice that Tesla said was in line with other employers and California law. Tesla said some injured employees are also able to undertake “modified work” on regular pay.
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    \n“I went from making $22 an hour to $10 an hour,” said a production worker, who injured his back twice while working at Tesla. “It kind of forces people to go back to work.”
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    \n“No one wants to get a pay cut because they’re injured, so everyone just forces themselves to work through it,” added Adam Suarez, who has worked at the factory for about three years.

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    \nSounds like a company culture where assembly line workers are discouraged from reporting injuries and told to just "man up" for the sake of the company (\'s production goals).
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    \nBut this is all just a ploy by UAW to bring down Tesla, right?\r\n
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    UAW marketing department just make this up too?
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    \n"Tesla’s manufacturing practices appear to have been most dangerous in its earliest years of operations. The company does not dispute that its recordable incident rate (TRIR), an official measure of injuries and illnesses that is reported to workplace safety regulators, was above the industry average between 2013 and 2016.
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    \nSounds like a company culture where assembly line workers are discouraged from reporting injuries and told to just "man up" for the sake of the company (\'s production goals).
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    \nElon admits workers are “having a hard time, working long hours, and on hard jobs”.
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      Default Elon pushing Tesla factory workers till they pass out on the floor

      https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ions-elon-musk

      Elon admits workers are “having a hard time, working long hours, and on hard jobs”.
      Gotta get that Model 3 rolling off the production line on time no matter what. TSLA's stock price depends on it.
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