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    Ford’s first fully electric, long-range car is on schedule to arrive by 2020 and will boast an affordable price tag. But it’s going to have some serious competition.

    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/f...195729893.html
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    I hope Cadillac has one (XT3-e?) by 2020. My ELR will be pretty done by then. It'll be six years old.

    I really need power adjustable seats for my back, so, Bolt ain't the one. Plus, I will never buy a car without at least ACC if not Super-Cruise.

    2020 is only 2 model years maybe three if it's a 2021 model. This has got to be on the drawing boards if not production-intent mock-up in 2018. 2018 car shows should be interesting in the plug-in space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loboc View Post
    I hope Cadillac has one (XT3-e?) by 2020. My ELR will be pretty done by then. It'll be six years old.

    I really need power adjustable seats for my back, so, Bolt ain't the one. Plus, I will never buy a car without at least ACC if not Super-Cruise.

    2020 is only 2 model years maybe three if it's a 2021 model. This has got to be on the drawing boards if not production-intent mock-up in 2018. 2018 car shows should be interesting in the plug-in space.
    I think we will be seeing a lot of this very soon. The person worried the most is Elon. The technology is out there, as is the demand. Now that the big boys are making these cars, Tesla will have an increasingly uphill battle. You sort of wonder if Tesla may go the way of the Tucker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRRF View Post
    I think we will be seeing a lot of this very soon. The person worried the most is Elon. The technology is out there, as is the demand. Now that the big boys are making these cars, Tesla will have an increasingly uphill battle. You sort of wonder if Tesla may go the way of the Tucker.
    Tucker only built about 50 cars. There are probably more Teslas than that within a couple mile radius of my house.

    Batteries are key, and Elon has a Gigafactory...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JRRF View Post
    I think we will be seeing a lot of this very soon. The person worried the most is Elon. The technology is out there, as is the demand. Now that the big boys are making these cars, Tesla will have an increasingly uphill battle. You sort of wonder if Tesla may go the way of the Tucker.

    I think they made a big mistake making the III a sedan, that isn't where the market is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wws View Post
    Tucker only built about 50 cars. There are probably more Teslas than that within a couple mile radius of my house.

    Batteries are key, and Elon has a Gigafactory...
    Your point is well taken, but when Tucker got into business there were orders of magnitude fewer cars anywhere. The point is , he was a revolutionary and got eaten by the established companies (and some underhanded dealings).

    Yes, Tesla has the gigafactory, but I wouldn't bet on a company like GM or Mercedes with the incredible cash balances they have to buy/create whatever they want. Tesla doesn't have near the process knowledge of a Ford/GM. Innovation is great, but scale makes you king.

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    Looks like Ford and VW are slugging it out big time....with press releases. Actual EV cars from Ford and VW, not so much.

    While the others issue press releases, GM is already working on Bolt EV Gen 2 and Volt Gen 3. By 2020, GM will have likely introduced at least one if not more EV's and EREV's as well as lite non-plug models.
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    I agree that GM has a "grand opportunity" to expand their EV lineup and get in on the ground floor of the next big thing in auto.
    That isn't going to bother Elon and Tesla one bit. It's all good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shivetya View Post
    I think they made a big mistake making the III a sedan, that isn't where the market is.
    Have you seen the number of preorders? Sure a compact crossover like the model Y would be in demand, yet it'll both be more expensive and harder to build...
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    Elon has the setup and money to continue on - he is changing the way the big boys do business not the other way around. Now, he still has a lot of catch up to do with sales and service centers, replacement parts availability, but he is WAY ahead of any of the other new car manufacturers trying to get into the EV business.

    Glad Ford is getting serious, the more the merrier and overall wasn't this Elon's goal all along? To get all the manufacturers to make EVs?

    I don't own a Tesla and probably won't have the chance to for a long time - but I do admire what he has done.

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