Tesla's Elon Musk Blog response regarding NYT article

[aventineavenue]

Here are 3 *indisputable* facts - form your own opinion about the reporter's motivations and intent:

1) If Broder had charged just 10 to 15 minutes AT MOST longer at the Milford Supercharger (rather than only to 72% as he did, he would likely easily have had the estimated and (well over actual range) for his ~55 mile return in the AM. (Tesla instructed him to fully charge at the Superchargers)

and/or

2) If Broder had plugged in overnight L1 120v at the hotel, " " (he claims ignorance about this being recommended)

and/or

3) If Broder had charged just 15 to 30 minutes more AT MOST at the Norwich Public Utilities L2 stations (6.6 kWh, ~"25 miles per hour" range added) " "

This facts combined with his reported pre-scandal level of detail in understanding his kWh charged, state of charge, and estimated range are entered into evidence.

[aventineavenue]

And at last, here it is folks, "the smoking gun", in UPDATE section:

http://arstechnica.com/business/2013...over-coverage/

"Broder says that the Tesla lost much of its charge overnight, and Tesla employees "told me that an hour of charging (at a lower power level) at a public utility in Norwich, Conn., would give me adequate range to reach the Supercharger 61 miles away."

They told him this when he was still at the hotel, BEFORE he drove to Norwich to the L2, losing another 10-15 miles along the way and putting him 10 more miles AWAY from the Supercharger than he was sat the hotel. *opinion alert:* The "setup" was in place, with Broder "playing dumb" all the while. He did not feel he needed any further communication with Tesla, as he claims they told him to just charge for an hour and start driving so he took that as "being cleared" in advance by them, regardless of how much range he lost driving to Norwich and how little he actually gained once there. So he did.

"When the car only read 32 miles to the charge after that hour, Broder proceeded to drive to the next charging station, as Tesla employees had earlier claimed that "moderate-speed driving would 'restore' the battery power lost overnight."

The "moderate-speed driving would restore" was only if he had starting driving right from the hotel in reference to the earlier conversation at the hotel. It was way too late for any battery from over night to be restored, that additional was all lost when he sat in the hotel parking lot with the car's heat running at 75 degrees for 30 minutes (aside, if a Tesla employee really indeed suggest this, they should be fired, and if this was done in a Volt, you'd easily lose 10 miles range with no benefit, not surprising the Tesla dropped 6 more from 25 to 19)

So he again took something from an earlier, different context situation and tried to apply it to the charging in Norwich. Based on this guys writing and clear understanding of EVs, I just can't believe he is that stupid or easily confused. Occam's razor says to me this guy was cherry picking what to do to and when to do it to make failure certain.

[jamesdawson]

I must say that when I first started reading up here on Gm-Volt.com and certinly after I bought my 2012 Volt I felt like I had joined a group of fellow intelligent and progressive people with very good judgement.

I now have to rethink that assumption as I read the many hyper-critical statements made by the Tesla Haters on this forum, including from a moderator no less, about a car that is every bit as revolutionary as our Volt. In fact, I have noticed that many of these same haters have in the past staunchly defended the Volt from unwarranted attacks against it in the right-wing media and sometimes from lazy journalists in the mainstream picking up on these attacks.

I guess that hypocriticism has no bounds when it comes to Tesla which I remind people is a car that is much less then 1 year old and the SuperChargers which at only 3 months are very much in their infancy.

In any case, I believe that the hate being spewed against Tesla is mostly from people who have an extreme dislike of Elon Musk first and formost and secondly let that hatred color their judgement enough to go down the same right-wing irrationality that we have seen time and again arrayed against the Volt.

All in all it makes me very sad.

[stephent]

I now have to rethink that assumption as I read the many hyper-critical statements made by the Tesla Haters on this forum, including from a moderator no less, about a car that is every bit as revolutionary as our Volt. In fact, I have noticed that many of these same haters have in the past staunchly defended the Volt from unwarranted attacks against it in the right-wing media and sometimes from lazy journalists in the mainstream picking up on these attacks.

Huh? Tesla Haters? I don't really see any Tesla haters on this forum, unless you are saying everyone who doesn't want to throw Broder under the bus as someone who set out specifically with an anti-Tesla agenda as a Tesla hater. What statements do you consider "hyper-critical" of Tesla?

One can like Tesla cars & the company generally while still thinking Broder is innocent of "fakery" and that Musk went overboard in impugning his integrity.

From my perspective Broder's article, though while sloppy in places and exposing the author as lacking scientific common sense with regards to EVs, doesn't lump him in with the Bollings, Cavutos, Modicas of the world whose hit pieces on the Volt contained far more ridiculous, outlandish falsehoods.

In any case, I believe that the hate being spewed against Tesla

What hate? Legitimate criticism isn't "hate". Quote something that you consider "hate". Not taking Tesla's side on everything and examining Musk's statements objectively is not the same as "hate".