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\r\nThis was a short test drive. The plastic was still on the seats, just off the truck on Saturday.
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    \r\n What about a used 2016 Volt? Picked one up here in western North Carolina back in January for $21k. That\'s a few thousand less than the MSRP of a new Cruze Diesel and you\'ll get 53 electric miles and 42-mpg when running on much cheaper regular gas rather than the more expensive diesel fuel.
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    \nPlus don\'t you have to pay for that after treatment refill on occasion? I can\'t see how the math can work out in the Cruze Diesel\'s favor.
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    \nThe Volt even beats it in performance, Volt = 149 HP / 294 Torque, Cruze Diesel = 137 HP / 240 Torque.
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    I hate to be near a running diesel, let alone own one.
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    \nWhy? There isn\'t much better than a deleted diesel.\r\n
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    I hate to be near a running diesel, let alone own one.
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    \nhaving owned two TDI VWs recently I don\'t see why. You could sit behind it when running and only feel warm air, not a smell at all. Gasoline engines produce a noticeable scent when running, catalytic converter and all.
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    \nEmissions - the car meets Tier 3 Bin 125 standard (whatever that is). That I think is the 2025 standard so it\'s way ahead of the curve.
    \nIf you run low on the DEF, the car will first warn you, then as the tank nears empty, will reduce propulsion to 65 mph, 55 mph, till eventually it\'s 4! mph. Basically you can\'t ignore the NOx reduction system without consequences.
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    \nGas requires more refinement, and thus has a greater impact in the creation of pollution during its production. On the other side, Diesel requires less refinement, and when contrasted with gas, causes less contamination during refinement. Both gas and Diesel make an ecological impact during the production process.
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    \nThe six fundamental contaminates discharged by gas and Diesel vehicles are:
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    1. Carbon Dioxide - Diesel vehicles, compared with gas vehicles, emit less CO2 in light of the fact that diesel vehicles expend less fuel. CO2 is (allegedly) the fundamental driver for a worldwide temperature alteration.
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    3. Carbon Monoxide - Diesel engines produce no CO. Gas engines produce CO. This is a deadly, toxic substance that poisons the central nervous system, causes coronary disease and general feeling of weakness and/or nausea.
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    5. Nitrogen Oxide - Nitrogen is one of the primary components of air. However, when exposed to high temperatures and pressures, it binds with oxygen to form nitrous oxide. Diesel engines discharge this to a greater degree. Dentists use NO (laughing gas) to ease tension and stress in some patients. In low doses it simply causes a feeling of euphoria. In very high doses it can cause death due to asphyxia. This is not generally a concern with Diesel or gas vehicles.
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    7. Hydrocarbons - Benzene is transmitted considerably more by gas engines because it is added to gas during production. This is a known cancer-causing agent. Inhalation can lead to drowsiness, dizziness, headaches, tremors, confusion, and/or unconsciousness. In extreme cases, inhaling or swallowing very high levels of benzene can be deadly.
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    9. Suspended Particulate Matter - These are the small particles of ash suspended in the exhaust. Diesel engines emit more of this matter. These are cancer-causing in nature and can cause respiratory issues.
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    11. Lead - Emitted from older gas vehicles and airplanes. Influences the central nervous system, kidneys and heart.
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    Diesel vehicles emit more: nitrogen oxides, suspended particulate matter.
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    What about a used 2016 Volt? Picked one up here in western North Carolina back in January for $21k. That\'s a few thousand less than the MSRP of a new Cruze Diesel and you\'ll get 53 electric miles and 42-mpg when running on much cheaper regular gas rather than the more expensive diesel fuel.
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    \nCruze looks to be about 600 lbs lighter than a Volt. Hence less hp needed.
    \nThis car is right out the factory and the salesman was sitting next to me so I didn\'t do anything zesty with the loud pedal other than force the tranny to downshift just to get a feel of the smoothness of shifting.\r\n
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      Default Testdrive in a Diesel Cruze

      2017 with leather package.

      This was a short test drive. The plastic was still on the seats, just off the truck on Saturday.

      Pros

      Diesel knock is absent, just as advertised.
      9 speed automatic shifts smoothly - double clutch technology works. You have to get on the "oil" to make it downshift forcibly enough to feel it.
      Stop-start technology.
      Diesel torque + 9 speeds - pretty good acceleration

      Cons
      Low pitch engine rumble is always there - in no way is this silent propulsion.


      Normally I would go with the Volt but the choice is not so clearcut here. There's zero state incentives, I'd have to buy the Volt and get 0% financing to go along with a modest amount of manufacturer's incentives. Even with the fed tax credit it's stretching to make the number close enough.
      D-2274
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      Midland MI

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