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\r\nso when doing the long trip, I get once or twice a year from Georgia to Ohio. This route certainly has hill country in Virginia and West Virginia but Kentucky and Tennessee on the return leg isn\'t flat either.
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\r\nSo EV till freeway then hold when leaving the on ramp, turn off hold when leaving freeway and so on? Does anyone attempt any charging while out on long trips? Is that even worthwhile. Or just flip on mountain mode and let the car sort it out?
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    \r\n Unless I am staying overnight or for extended periods at one spot (read 2 hours or more), and charging equipment is easily accessible, I do not bother charging on the road (in other words, I am opportunistic).
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    \nAs for EV vs Hold, I switch to Hold as soon as I hit the highway. If my destination has charging facilities, I try to reach with as minimal EV range as possible. And if there are mountains, I use Mountain Mode.\r\n
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    \r\n Quote Originally Posted by Shivetya\r\n View Post\r\n
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    did my searches, read a few of the hits.
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    \nso when doing the long trip, I get once or twice a year from Georgia to Ohio. This route certainly has hill country in Virginia and West Virginia but Kentucky and Tennessee on the return leg isn\'t flat either.
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    \nSo EV till freeway then hold when leaving the on ramp, turn off hold when leaving freeway and so on? Does anyone attempt any charging while out on long trips? Is that even worthwhile. Or just flip on mountain mode and let the car sort it out?
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    \nI cannot see taking the charging cable unless staying at a relatives home. Figure if the hotel has a charger/s they would have cables attached. Granted getting the spot may be an issue
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    \nThe HOLD on Freeway method is what we do. If we know there is overnight charging, I kick it out of HOLD 10 to 40 miles before we arrive, depending on charge level.
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    \nIt\'s barely worth the effort to do remote charging on the Volt. However, if you are taking a 1 hr break, and there is a FREE L2 charger (go to Plugshare.com and go into filters, turn on:
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    \nWe normally only do overnight charging when it\'s free at hotels or within walking distance of a hotel. The Payment Required sites cost wildly more than gasoline.\r\n
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    \r\n I have a thought as well. As we do have regen, is it even worth the effort to put her in EV mode to catch the regen when going down long steepish hills to capture any regen then back on hold for the flat lands and hills? Or is that just a silly thought?
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    I have a thought as well. As we do have regen, is it even worth the effort to put her in EV mode to catch the regen when going down long steepish hills to capture any regen then back on hold for the flat lands and hills? Or is that just a silly thought?
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    \nIf the hill is long enough and high enough that "normal" cars require the use of their brakes to keep from going too fast, then yes, switching back to EV mode is a good thing. If these "hills" are big enough to require "truck run off areas" then you will find that "L" mode works nicely. You can maintain your speed without using the brakes and regen at the same time.\r\n
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    \r\n There are no interstates east of the Mississippi which require mountain mode. Just hop in the car and drive. We always take the EVSE, charge at daughters house and final destination, our month long Florida place. Took a St. Pattys day dinner trip to Inverness and totally happened upon free public L2 charging! Last parking spot in the lot as well, the other EV spot was Iced!\r\n
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    \r\n Without knowing your exact departure and destination locations this appears to be about 500 miles, 8 hour drive. Assuming you plan to drive from Georgia to Ohio in one day, the only opportunity to charge for any length of time will be before you depart, while you are in Ohio and prior to your return.
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    \nYou could shave 50 gas miles off of each leg of the trip, or 10% of the total miles, plus whatever driving you do while in Ohio. That is approximately 2.4 gallons @ 42mpg. Assuming the price of a gallon of gas in Georgia and in Ohio is $2.25, that is $5.35. 100 miles @ 3.1 miles per kwh is 32 kwh. If you leave with a full battery and drive 50 EV miles on the trip to Ohio you only need to charge the Volt for the return trip. 16kwh is more than the Volt\'s available battery (14kwh) but accounts for charging losses. Assuming you can find a free place to charge the Volt overnight, before you leave for home, then your cost for the first (or last) 50 miles of the trip home is $0. At $1 per hour Level II commercial charging rate it will cost approx. $5 to charge the Volt (5 hours @ 208V, 15 amp), or more if the rate per hour is higher. At my work location I pay $0.20 per kwh to charge, that would be $3.20 (this is much cheaper than most commercial charging locations.) The cost of gas to drive 50 miles is approx. $2.68 (1.2 gallons @ $2.25). So unless you can charge at a free location for the return trip then just plan on using the extra gas.
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    If the hill is long enough and high enough that "normal" cars require the use of their brakes to keep from going too fast, then yes, switching back to EV mode is a good thing. If these "hills" are big enough to require "truck run off areas" then you will find that "L" mode works nicely. You can maintain your speed without using the brakes and regen at the same time.
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    \nI\'m confused by this comment... Volt still does the same regen in Hold mode. There is no advantage to switch in and out of Hold to regen down a hill (well, ok, the computer will probably report the regen\'d miles as gas miles if you\'re in Hold, but that\'s just odd bookkeeping, you\'re getting the same regen amount either way). Now if you engaged Hold with a completely full battery and then drove to a long descent, you\'d quickly hit a situation where the computer won\'t allow more energy into the battery (because it\'s full), so regen will stop. So when you anticipate a long descent, it could be beneficial to only engage Hold once you have drawn the battery down a few bars so the unusually large amount of regen has somewhere to go.\r\n
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      Default So freeway driving...

      did my searches, read a few of the hits.

      so when doing the long trip, I get once or twice a year from Georgia to Ohio. This route certainly has hill country in Virginia and West Virginia but Kentucky and Tennessee on the return leg isn't flat either.

      So EV till freeway then hold when leaving the on ramp, turn off hold when leaving freeway and so on? Does anyone attempt any charging while out on long trips? Is that even worthwhile. Or just flip on mountain mode and let the car sort it out?

      I cannot see taking the charging cable unless staying at a relatives home. Figure if the hotel has a charger/s they would have cables attached. Granted getting the spot may be an issue

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