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    Question Fix it ticket : Inop hatch brake lights

    Well, it's time for my first post after acquiring a GM Certified 2013 Volt one week ago. Since I have never seen another Gen 1 Volt driving down the road so I have to ask a dumb question:

    Are there brake lights in the hatch?

    I just got a "fix it ticket" by the highway patrol for inoperative brake lights. The officer even showed me a pic of a Volt on his phone with brake lights in the hatch.

    Looking closely, I don't see anything in there.

    Any suggestions on how to fight the ticket since I don't think there is anything to fix?

    Cheerios!

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    If the question you're trying to ask is whether the red reflective sections adjacent to the tail lights at the sides of the lower glass light up, the answer is no. They are just reflectors (which will appear lit up if someone takes a photo with flash...)

    There is, of course, a center high mounted stop light on the underside of the spoiler which should light up with the brake lights.

    I'm not sure how you fight a mistaken fix it ticket like this - maybe talk to a Chevy dealer or Volt advisor and get a signed statement certifying that those reflectors aren't intended to light up?

    Edit: well, they don't light up unless you're this guy.

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    Just curious: were you driving in 'L' mode at the time?
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    It is possible the Highway Patrol was in error and should have just given you a verbal warning.

    I do not know of a single state that requires the third brake light in their vehicle code. It's a federal standard. So if it does not work, and the two lights in the VC do work, there is no law broken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qinsp View Post
    It is possible the Highway Patrol was in error and should have just given you a verbal warning.

    I do not know of a single state that requires the third brake light in their vehicle code. So if it does not work, and the two lights in the VC do work, there is no law broken.
    Actually, the office specifically mentioned that the CHMSL and "two of the brake lights" were working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyodor View Post
    Just curious: were you driving in 'L' mode at the time?
    (I'm trying again because I replied to your message and to 'saghost' but the replies have just passed Saturn, the planet, not the car)

    No, I was in regular 'D' mode. He pulled me over after coming to a stop at a traffic signal. On the side of the road he had me apply my brakes and then wrote the ticket.

    Actually, he initially would not let me start the car to make the brake lights illuminate. Then he kept asking whether I turned off the car and even had me put my keys on the roof!

    As you can see, it wasn't a pleasant night!
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    Quote Originally Posted by saghost View Post
    If the question you're trying to ask is whether the red reflective sections adjacent to the tail lights at the sides of the lower glass light up, the answer is no. They are just reflectors (which will appear lit up if someone takes a photo with flash...)

    There is, of course, a center high mounted stop light on the underside of the spoiler which should light up with the brake lights.

    I'm not sure how you fight a mistaken fix it ticket like this - maybe talk to a Chevy dealer or Volt advisor and get a signed statement certifying that those reflectors aren't intended to light up?

    Edit: well, they don't light up unless you're this guy.

    http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread....-light-LED-mod
    (Sorry for the delay in replying. My first response was vaporized because I had my sonic screwdriver in the wrong mode. Maybe I should have written it on paper... pulp... wood... nevermind)

    Anyhow, yes, the photo you showed was similar to what he showed me on his phone.

    The lights in corners do light up as does the CHMSL but nothing on the hatch... even though it looks like it should. I found that they lit up on the first concept car, too.

    Good idea about contacting a Volt advisor assuming they are available to 2nd owners this late in the game. I just found the direct number for them, too.

    I'll also see if I can my dealer to print the page of parts for the hatch to show that there are no lights in there.

    The other piece of evidence is to take a photo of my car with the brake lights on and print screen shots of video reviews of 1st generation Volt. There is a Volt for sale about 140 miles away that I might go and take a picture of, as well.

    The goal is to do this in one trip because where I have to go is in another state and I don't trust the mail-in option.

    Thanks for your reply and, again, I'm sorry for the delay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by z80 View Post
    Actually, the office specifically mentioned that the CHMSL and "two of the brake lights" were working.
    The reality of your plight will be that fighting a fix-it ticket is pointless.

    In our state, we go to a Highway Patrol office or any officer, and show that we fixed the issue (you just tell them it's fixed, no more) and they evaluate the vehicle and sign it off if it complies. You mail that in with any fee that might apply.
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    Lol. With proximity key on the roof, it might be able to start! This traffic cop needs some training.
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    I'm fixin to head to my dealer to look at the parts chart.

    On a side note, I was wondering if there was a problem with the gm-volt.com site? I have had several posts not 'take' and one post by someone else disappear (I think from Qinsp which had a link to officer.com.)

    Be back in a little while,

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