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    Default Energy storage US agency reaches 'holy grail' of battery storage sought by Elon Musk

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    Lots of bull**** talk, no details. NEXT.

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    Oh man, the BEEST project (Batteries for Electrical Energy Storage in Transportation)
    Lots of glitz and glamour and not much substance so far unfortunately.

    Believe me I truly WISH someone could come up with just as little as a 20% increase in energy density with reasonable charge/discharge cycles.

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    Doesn't say a thing about what the breakthrough actually is.

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    There might be a very legitimate technology coming out using graphene in the electrodes that could make a big change in Li battery technology. Right now, graphene is still very expensive.
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    I'd like to see the Gov learn from the past. Instead of spending $3 or 4 Billion on an agency, design a set of specs and offer a $1bn prize to the first company to meet the requirements. Unleash the creative power of several different groups, and let them fight it out.

    Much like the King's Prize for a seagoing timepiece that would allow ships to know their longitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PilotAlan View Post
    Much like the King's Prize for a seagoing timepiece that would allow ships to know their longitude.
    That's a great story. I think I saw it on PBS Nova or some such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steverino View Post
    That's a great story. I think I saw it on PBS Nova or some such.
    I know, right? An amazing story that so few know, and still has lessons for us today.

    It was thought to be impossible, but was solved in just a few decades because of the prize. Much like the Ansari X-Prize (but much bigger).
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    Loved Harrison's story, but it took him something like 30 years to collect on that prize and even then, he had to be given a special award since the Astronomer Royal got in the way of him collecting the actual prize. Technically, I think Harrison had solved the problem before the prize had been announced, since he had already made an accurate timepiece. The trick for him was to make it seaworthy. Most inventors like Harrison do the work because of the challenge, not because there is a prize. He went way above and beyond the requirements of the actual prize. He saw he could turn the sea-clock into a pocket watch and he did. That wasn't required.

    I hope ARPA has solved the grid battery storage problem but that's quite a bit different than developing new battery chemistries for our Volts.
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    Now this is weird. I just got an email in the past hour from a well-known local auction house, Skinner, out of Boston. They have the Curator of Horology at the Royal Observatory, where Harrison's naval clocks are kept, in Greenwich, England, coming to give a lecture on the extraordinary story of John Harrison on March 24th. I think I'll go.
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