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    Default EVSEUpgrade will modify your stock 2013 Volt EVSE to 240V

    I sent an email to EVSEUpgrade and got a very quick answer.


    On Dec 1, 2012, at 1:32 PM, Steve wrote:


    I have a 2013 Volt which has the new Clipper Creek manufactured 120V charger. These have 14 AWG wiring and are closed with 6 screws. Have you evaluated these new units for possible upgrade?

    On Dec 1, 2012, at 3:07 PM, EVSEUpgrade wrote:


    We can do that unit with a 240V 13A upgrade for $239. It will no longer operate on 120V however. You can order the rev1 upgrade on our site.




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    Have you guys thought about buying 240V European versions and replacing the plug?

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    Wow, that's big news! Thanks for the post stevenak and welcome to the forum! How many Volts are prowling around Santa Fe?

    It's great that they can upgrade the new 2013 L1 EVSE, but it's too bad you lose the 120V capability. That's a deal breaker for me and I'm sure many others. If they can offer a dual voltage solution for <$300 they will own the L2 Volt market. Especially now that the EV Project only offers a $400 incentive rather than $1200. Most people would be happy to charge their Volt at 240V 13A for that price rather than buying a more expensive higher amperage EVSE for $1000. And it would be portable too. But losing L1 capability would prevent you from opportunity charging at many locations. And it's probably not worth buying a second unit to have one L1 and one L2, at that point you'd be better off just buying the Leaf dual voltage unit.

    dpeilow, the European version is only rated for 50Hz operation so it probably won't work. Even if it did, it's limited to 10A so the cost to import one wouldn't be worth it. Again in that case you'd be better buying the Nissan Leaf upgraded EVSE.

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    Will the 14AWG wiring be a limitation? Will that lead to overheating?
    2012 Blue Topaz Volt - 11/18/11 to 11/17/14, now waiting for the next big thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTN Ranger View Post
    Will the 14AWG wiring be a limitation? Will that lead to overheating?
    Nah, it should be fine. 14AWG is rated to 20A (or even 25A w/ 90C insulation). So if it's only runing 13A it shouldn't be an issue. Make it dual-voltage and this will be a real winner for new Volt owners going forward.

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    From their faq -
    Will the upgraded EVSE work with the Chevy Volt?
    This used to be problematic, due to picky timing on the Volt's SAE J1772 Charging interface, but GM has since corrected this with a software upgrade in the Volt. If you have had the dealer installed upgrade, your Volt is now compatibile with our upgrade! All recent Volts are delivered with this installed from the factory now. Our unit will now properly charge a Volt at 120 or 240 volts, and in addition it is built much more ruggedly and heavier-duty than the original Voltec unit. Our unit is equipped with 12awg cable whereas the Voltec only has 16awg! (same size as standard lamp cord!)


    Are you also offering an upgrade for the Chevy Volt EVSE (Voltec)?
    No, we don't feel this is a safe or viable option. We recommend our upgraded Nissan EVSE to Volt owners, as is much more rugged and better built than the Voltec unit, and in addition is more efficient. The Voltec is equipped with #16 AWG cable throughout, while the Nissan/Panasonic unit uses #12 AWG. We do not feel the Voltec unit is reliable and safe enough, and in addition, the Voltec unit is ultrasonically welded together, so it is difficult to open without damage. (see previous question for more information)

    Their upgraded Nissan charger appears to be just under $1000. Wish I had seen this before I ordered the one I did. Portable 240v would have been better than a wall mount for me.

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    ptarp, the quoted text is based on the 2011/12 Volt EVSE. It sounds like they are willing to upgrade the new 2013 units because they now use heavier gauge wiring and the case is accessible.

    The upgraded Leaf unit is nice for portability, but very expensive for a 16A limited EVSE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joule Thief View Post
    Wow, that's big news! Thanks for the post stevenak and welcome to the forum! How many Volts are prowling around Santa Fe?

    It's great that they can upgrade the new 2013 L1 EVSE, but it's too bad you lose the 120V capability. That's a deal breaker for me and I'm sure many others. If they can offer a dual voltage solution for <$300 they will own the L2 Volt market. Especially now that the EV Project only offers a $400 incentive rather than $1200. Most people would be happy to charge their Volt at 240V 13A for that price rather than buying a more expensive higher amperage EVSE for $1000. And it would be portable too. But losing L1 capability would prevent you from opportunity charging at many locations. And it's probably not worth buying a second unit to have one L1 and one L2, at that point you'd be better off just buying the Leaf dual voltage unit.

    dpeilow, the European version is only rated for 50Hz operation so it probably won't work. Even if it did, it's limited to 10A so the cost to import one wouldn't be worth it. Again in that case you'd be better buying the Nissan Leaf upgraded EVSE.
    Thanks for the welcome! We have 5 or 6 Volts here in Santa Fe, but the dealer here is starting to have trouble keeping them in stock.

    The loss of level one charging is a deal breaker for me as well. I have a Voltec level 2 EVSE which I have made mobile with a welder plug. While I was obsessing about level 1 today I re-read the specs for the Voltec and noticed the voltage input range is 85VAC to 250VAC. I tried it today with 120V and it works just fine! So although it is big and awkward I now have a portable level 1 and 2 EVSE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenak View Post
    Thanks for the welcome! We have 5 or 6 Volts here in Santa Fe, but the dealer here is starting to have trouble keeping them in stock.

    The loss of level one charging is a deal breaker for me as well. I have a Voltec level 2 EVSE which I have made mobile with a welder plug. While I was obsessing about level 1 today I re-read the specs for the Voltec and noticed the voltage input range is 85VAC to 250VAC. I tried it today with 120V and it works just fine! So although it is big and awkward I now have a portable level 1 and 2 EVSE!
    Interesting to hear that worked. Thanks for the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joule Thief View Post
    dpeilow, the European version is only rated for 50Hz operation so it probably won't work. Even if it did, it's limited to 10A so the cost to import one wouldn't be worth it. Again in that case you'd be better buying the Nissan Leaf upgraded EVSE.
    Do we know for sure that it's 50Hz only? That would be pretty unusual these days. I heard that it's a pretty easy software mod to get 16A out of it too (the original ones were 6/10/13/16A switchable).


    Looks like you can buy it in the States: http://www.gmpartsgiant.com/parts/gm...-22865051.html
    Last edited by dpeilow; 12-03-2012 at 03:59 AM.

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