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    In response to far right wing sleazebag Patrick Michaels' attack piece of yesterday (http://www.forbes.com/sites/patrickm...he-chevy-volt/), Eric Miller posted the following fact check:

    Here are all the vehicles that “no one wants” even less than the Volt:

    Year-To-Date sales in the US (Jan 1, 2012 – Sept 1, 2012)

    **Chevrolet VOLT – 13,497**
    Nissan Quest Minivan – 13,324
    Volkswagen CC – 13,049
    Honda Crosstour – 12,857
    Lexus CT200h – 12,417
    Volvo XC60 – 12,189
    Nissan Xterra – 12,092
    Nissan Armada – 12,002
    Mazda 2 (all) – 11,973
    Audi A6 (all) – 11,844
    Audi A5 (all) – 11,411
    Nissan Altima Hybrid – 11,320
    Mazda CX7 – 11,187
    Mini Clubman/Coupe/Roadster/Convertible (combined) – 10,742
    Range Rover Sport – 9,949
    Dodge Caliber (all) – 9,843
    Corvette (all) – 9,219
    Honda Ridgeline – 9,169
    Porsche Cayenne (all) – 8,964
    Mazda 5 (all) – 8,861
    Toyota FJ Cruiser – 8,733
    Subaru WRX (incl STi)- 8,450
    Toyota Sequoia (all) – 8,273
    Lexus RX450h Hybrid – 7,917
    BMW 7-series (all) – 7,639
    Scion XD (all) – 7,483
    VW Routan (all) – 7,424
    Mercedes S-Class (all) – 7,289
    Ford Fusion Hybrid – 7,168
    Kia Optima Hybrid – 7,005
    VW Golf TDi Diesel – 7,002
    Lexus GX (all) – 6,772
    BMW X5 Diesel – 6,679……<<– VOLT has sold DOUBLE or more
    Volvo XC90 (all) – 6,478
    Audi Q7 (all) – 6,291
    VW Touareg (all) – 6,284
    Smart (all) – 6,281
    Infiniti M (all) – 6,259
    Porsche 911 (all) – 6,145
    Hyundai Veracruz – 6,116
    Toyota Prius PHEV – 6,068
    Infiniti FX (all) – 5,803
    Nissan 370Z (all) – 5,663
    Audi A7 (all) – 5,531
    Range Rover – 5,490
    Mercedes CLS (all) – 5,400
    Porsche Panamera (all) – 5,378
    Nissan Cube – 5,297
    Honda Civic Hybrid – 5,168
    BMW 1-series (all) – 5,020
    Lincoln MKT (all) – 4,990
    Lincoln Navigator (all) – 4,976
    Audi A3 (all) – 4,944
    Land Rover LR4 – 4,885
    BMW 6-series (all) – 4,873
    Honda Insight Hybrid – 4,801
    VW EOS (all) – 4,799
    Mazda Miata (all) – 4,576
    Lexus LS (all) – 4,358……<<– VOLT has sold TRIPLE or more
    Nissan Leaf – 4,228
    Toyota Highlander Hybrid – 3,969
    Jaguar XF (all) – 3,951
    Mercedes ML350 BlueTec Diesel – 3,933
    BMW X6 (all) – 3,614
    Volvo XC70 (all) – 3,578
    Volvo C70 (all) – 3,530
    Jaguar XJ (all) – 3,515
    Audi A8 (all) – 3,419
    Lexus LX (all) – 3,388……<<– VOLT has sold QUADRUPLE or more
    Honda CRZ Hybrid – 3,126
    Mercedes SLK (all) – 2,872
    Acura TSX Wagon – 2,736
    Mercedes SL (all) – 2,628……<<– VOLT has sold 5X or more
    Volvo S80 (all) – 2,442
    Infiniti EX (all) – 2,227……<< 6X
    Land Rover LR2 – 2,038
    Volvo C30 – 1,967
    Mercedes E350 BlueTec Diesel – 1,823
    Toyota Land Cruiser – 1,767……<< 7X
    BMW Z4 (all) – 1,765
    Audi TT (all) – 1,512……<< 8X
    Mercedes R-Class (all) – 1,416……<< 9X
    Porsche Boxster (all) – 1,363
    Ford Escape Hybrid – 1,248……<< 10X
    Jaguar XK (all) – 1,080
    Nissan GT-R – 849
    BMW 335d Diesel – 711
    Acura ZDX – 594
    Mercedes CL-Class (all) – 490
    Porsche Cayman (all) – 429
    Lexus GS450h Hybrid – 338
    Acura RL – 295
    Nice job Eric! Any claim that the Volt is a sales flop are at odds with the facts.
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    Wow, handy list. "The Volt has outsold 91 other car models this year".....

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    Very nice work.

    These lists always beg more questions. Here's three:
    1. what cars have sold MORE than the Chevy Volt?
    2. Where did this data come from?
    3. What does it look like in Canada?
    Last edited by Ron C; 09-20-2012 at 12:57 PM. Reason: add compliment to list maker!
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    Yeah, but a lot of the Volt "sales" are really leases and we know that those don't count because..... well, I don't really know why they don't count but Mr. Michaels said so and he is a libertarian and so he must be right because they are wicked smart.

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    The guys a hack with no credibility and I wonder who is "sponsors" are OPEC, the Saudi Royal family????
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    and that was YTD, which includes very slow early year sales before California HOV option and when inventory was very low. With a monthly comparison of August sales, the Volt beat out a lot more models.
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    Nice post.

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    Thanks for posting this list and thanks to Eric Miller. (No I am not Eric Miller.) It motivated me to read all the "called out" (?) responses to this outrageous Forbes piece. It was very heartening to see that every (called out) response blasted the article and/or the author. Although we can't know for certain, many of these responses were posted by conservatives who were tired of the right-wing hit job against the Volt.

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    Actually the volt is #133 out of 262 cars.. so its just about the median. (would be above if one considers the different submodels as actual models, e.g. the Pirus C is not really the same as the Prius in my view).


    Data is at
    http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2012/09...-rankings.html
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    Great job, good info, and well done. This demonstrates that facts are facts, and lies are lies.
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