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    Quote Originally Posted by Steverino View Post
    Their spin is making me dizzy.
    Yup, and you are not alone. Here is a quote from one of the affected owners, whom I met during the range test last weekend. They are good people, and not entirely new to this technology, her husband has had EVs all his life:

    Quote Originally Posted by azdre
    LIES!!! More LIES! If Nissan can't even divide number of miles by the number of months owned, how on earth can anyone expect them to design a car?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!!?

    On the July 23rd, when our car was taken to Casa Grande for testing, it has 20,803 miles on the odometer. We purchased our car on March 21, 2011, 16 months prior to the test. This equates to 1300.1875 miles per month or 15,602.25 miles per year.

    According to the Federal Highway Administration (http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/ohim/onh00/bar8.htm) the average US driver, in our demographic drives 15,291 miles per year.

    I have seen the milage and manufacture date for 3 of the other Casa Grande cars, and they are WELL below 19,000 per year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steverino View Post
    In summary, Nissan is claiming that the Leaf gauges can't be trusted, that the battery loss is due to driving more than 12k miles/year, and that independent tests that show otherwise can't be trusted.

    Uh huh.

    They blame their own gauges as being both inaccurate as well as non-linear (as in a bar is not a bar). And even though some brand new low mileage Leafs exhibit battery loss, that only happens when driven over 12k miles per year.

    Their spin is making me dizzy.
    Lawyer time. I would get a class action happening, or at least threaten to make them know this is a serious issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by solar_dave View Post
    Lawyer time. I would get a class action happening, or at least threaten to make them know this is a serious issue.
    I spoke to a couple of the affected Leaf owners yesterday at the Phoenix National Plug In Day event. One of them confirmed they met with a lawyer on Fri. And here's my insider exclusive - apparently Nissan was forced to buy back 2 Leafs on Fri under Arizona's lemon law! I think Nissan is about to feel the heat (pun )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joule Thief View Post
    I spoke to a couple of the affected Leaf owners yesterday at the Phoenix National Plug In Day event. One of them confirmed they met with a lawyer on Fri. And here's my insider exclusive - apparently Nissan was forced to buy back 2 Leafs on Fri under Arizona's lemon law! I think Nissan is about to feel the heat (pun )
    I was down there in the morning, Must have missed you! Saw AZVolt and his wife with the HISVOLT and HERVOLT plates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by solar_dave View Post
    I was down there in the morning, Must have missed you! Saw AZVolt and his wife with the HISVOLT and HERVOLT plates.
    BUMMER! Yeah I had to take care of some things in the morning so I didn't get there until around 10:45 and I hung around until about 3pm. Another forum member showed up after I got there (Laura) in a red Volt with plate EVENVY. There was also a white Volt parked but I didn't meet the owner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joule Thief View Post
    BUMMER! Yeah I had to take care of some things in the morning so I didn't get there until around 10:45 and I hung around until about 3pm. Another forum member showed up after I got there (Laura) in a red Volt with plate EVENVY. There was also a white Volt parked but I didn't meet the owner.
    Oh well another time. I was an interesting meet with all the Leaf owners. Some confident that Nissan was going to step up.

    The Tesla roadsters were cool as well. MAMA tried to steer me away from them! LOL.
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