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    Quote Originally Posted by BAZINGA View Post
    That's the only reason I can think the repubs have a hard on for GM, they are still union.
    Yes, That is a great example of how twisted the "logic" has become. We hate GM because it has a union. But we love Ford and Chrysler (even though they have the same union), haha

    I suspect a car that threatens the entrenched oil industry is the real underlying reason. I note that Romney's plan for energy independence relies on oil, and more oil. Even Boone Pickens is upset because natural gas is getting short changed. The plan for other energy sources such as solar? Defund them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Room_A113 View Post
    You might want to send your friends to this link, where Fox News finally decided to air some truths about the Volt:
    Thanks for posting this. I had not seen it.
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    The Republican's went all in to a strategy to tie the Volt into Obama and his re-election. That with the GM bail out, the Republicans are doing an all out assault on hating the Volt to try and make it look like Obama is forcing American into using bad cars that cost way too much. And subsidizing them.

    Most of the lies came from last year, but the Republicans will not listen to the truth on this issue because they went all into the charade already, and they don't want to apologize for the BS they have been caught in.

    As a conservative, and an Independent, I hate these kind of politics. Republicans have deemed GM government owned and Obama pulling their strings. Republicans, who at one time said "Be American, buy American" has turned their back on GM purley for political reasons.

    The Republicans will lose votes in their hatred of GM and the Volt. GM is still an American auto maker, and the Republicans are not fooling anyone except the choir and this issue.

    Romney and Paul should come out and stop the crap and admit the Volt and GM has ben overly politicized and admin the Volt is a fine US car, one that leads the way in technology.

    What will the Republicans say when the rest of the world, and even other US auto makers develop Volt-like cars themselves?

    I hope 3,000 Volts sell in August and the snow ball keeps getting bigger month after month, and the 2014 model lists at $30,000 for the base model!

    And, I don't back Obama for re-election either. Politics are getting to big for it's own pants.
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    It is time to realize the stupidly of all zealots whether right or left. When you hear a senate candidate state that women raped can will away the consequences of an unwanted pregnancy, that insurance companies can turn down coverage for ill people, that there is no global warning, that out of control budgets should not be controlled and more, You may understand that we should all boycott any extremist media. Let us start by shutting off fox and stop buying any products advertised via fox. Our only control is our voting privileges exercised by money or elections. The volt is one of the most significant new products in the us and worldwide. If you think only of yourself, your personal tax load, and never of our children, or grandchildren, then you will aid in the future collapse of society as we know it. I spent 40 k for a volt with total knowledge that I could spend 20k for a different more effective solution for my needs, but I have an obligation, Do You? The volt is far more than a option, it is an obligation for anyone who has the opportunity to assist our society.
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    Well this is really going to get the juices flowing but I can't resist. Any President with half a brain would have given aid to the auto industry given the same situation as we were in in late 2008 and 2009. In fact, one did. Given the scale and complexity of the automanufacturers' operations and the fact that there was no financing available to bring anything out of bankruptcy, it would have been a huge risk to allow standard Chapter 7 or 11 for that matter. If all Obama cared about was preserving everything for the unions, he didn't such a great job. GM can compete now on small cars built at their US plants and their debt was reduced significantly which has been one of the conservative criticisms. Even the foreign car manufacturers that have US plants were asking for the rescue becuase they knew their operations would have been crippled if not bankrupted by a GM/Chrysler standard bankruptcy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koz View Post
    Well this is really going to get the juices flowing but I can't resist. Any President with half a brain would have given aid to the auto industry given the same situation as we were in in late 2008 and 2009. In fact, one did. Given the scale and complexity of the automanufacturers' operations and the fact that there was no financing available to bring anything out of bankruptcy, it would have been a huge risk to allow standard Chapter 7 or 11 for that matter. If all Obama cared about was preserving everything for the unions, he didn't such a great job. GM can compete now on small cars built at their US plants and their debt was reduced significantly which has been one of the conservative criticisms. Even the foreign car manufacturers that have US plants were asking for the rescue becuase they knew their operations would have been crippled if not bankrupted by a GM/Chrysler standard bankruptcy.
    If the GM bankruptcy happened 6-12 months earlier, you can pretty much bet they would have been bailed out too. The precise outcome of the union ownership and bond holder losses may be different. But it is done and history, we need to move on.
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    In case anyone noticed, Mitt Romney revealed his energy policy this week, which more than anything resembles Dwight Eisenhower's. Anyway this gives me another opportunity to post an op-ed I had published in our local weekly a couple of months ago:


    I DONíT HAVE A WINDMILL ON MY CAR, BUT DO I RIDE AROUND ON GOLDEN BEAMS OF LIGHT

    Back in May, presidential candidate Mitt Romney, in discussing energy policy, made a case for increased fossil fuel production by saying you canít ride around with a windmill on your car.

    Last November, my wife and I bought a Chevy Volt (thank you Fred Beans), and after driving it around for a month or two, liked it so much we decided to carry on with phase two of our electric vehicle plan, and installed solar panels on our garage roof to charge it (thank you Sunpower). In the six months weíve owned the Volt, weíve been to the gas station 5 times. Our lifetime fuel efficiency to date is over 180 m.p.g. But thatís somewhat beside the point, because we seldom use gasoline. Almost ninety percent of the time, our carís electric engine is powered by its battery, which is charged by our rooftop solar array. So while we donít have a windmill on our Volt, our car does, in fact, run on sunshine.

    If we can run our cars on sunshine, donít you think thatís something we should, as a nation, as a culture, want to do? Why isnít that an obvious choice, a slam dunk, a no brainer?

    Iíll concede that putting solar on my garage was an investment. But in approximately 5 years, depending on fuel prices, it will have paid for itself. And then the solar array will continue to power my car, and any future cars (and continue to offset a substantial amount of our household electric usage) for decades. For long after Iím gone. With no further input or investment required. What investor wouldnít put money in a venture that is guaranteed to break even and create profits for decades thereafter?

    Then consider the cost of delivering a gallon of gasoline to your tank. From locating a well site, to drilling thousands of feet into the ground (or sea floor), pumping the oil, shipping it to a refinery (or sending it down a pipeline thousands of miles long), finally trucking it to your service station, so that you then can pump it into your car. And when youíve driven an hour down the road, that gallon is gone forever, and the whole process starts over.

    Could we possibly devise a more wasteful, destructive, and energy intensive process? Why on earth would any individual citizen, much less leader (or group of leaders), cling to that 19th century process and not celebrate the advent of technologies that promise to move us beyond it? Imagine how fast the cost of solar, wind and other renewables (read: hydrogen) would go down, if the resources we now devote to squeezing every last ounce of dirty fossil fuel out of the ground were devoted to new technologies. And think of how much the efficiencies of such technologies would increase, if we were truly committed to developing them.

    Of course the Chevy Volt is only one vehicle, and has its limitations. I wish it were a little bigger, and if it had an all wheel drive option, Iíd already own two. But the fact is, it represents the basis for a true revolution in vehicle technology. Such a development, delivered to our door by a US manufacturer, should make every American proud. Our leaders should be turning cartwheels at the prospect. And as citizens, we should all be excited by the prospect of moving to new and better energy technologies, like solar powered electric vehicles. They are here. Theyíre real. You can buy them off the shelf.

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    There are zealots and sheep on both sides of the political spectrum. I'm a conservative with a Volt. I've had some friends think it is the coolest thing, and others berate me for taking an Obama bailout (the tax break). I hate that so many Americans think in terms of sound bites and 30 second black/white issues. I'm disappointed that the Volt (and solar companies as well) are being used as a political hot potato. I think most people who look objectively at the benefits of the Volt and take even a tiny bit of a of non-selfish societal view, will like the car. Unfortunately, objectivity is in short supply recently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Garcia View Post
    I saw the post about Fox news and how they consistently bash the Volt and GM. Combine this with all my Republican friends (5 total), that dismiss my Volt as a treehugging nonsense machine, that uses more gas from the power grid than a car (Huhh?). They somehow think I am a socialist, Mau Mau, whatever for buying a car made in the US powered by U.S. made energy. They are perhaps pissed off that GM made a comeback thanks to Obama, and Romney wanted it to die. I would think that repubs and Fox would be doing back flips over the fact that we are using far less gas from the middle east and not outsourcing jobs, yet 100% of the conservatives I know laugh at my silly pension for electricity over gas. If you have any negative comments about Obama, don't get me started. I am a real progressive, so I don't support 90% of what Obama is doing and consider him a war monger, wall street schill, and human rights offender. But if we can keep to the more narrow topic of why the Republicans and Fox News hate the Volt, that would be nice...I know there are a lot of conservative Volt owners on this forum, maybe you can explain this?

    I think they are laughing at you for other reasons . There are many conservatives that own Volts on this forum .
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    Quote Originally Posted by maggiesfarm View Post
    In case anyone noticed, Mitt Romney revealed his energy policy this week, which more than anything resembles Dwight Eisenhower's. Anyway this gives me another opportunity to post an op-ed I had published in our local weekly a couple of months ago:


    I DON’T HAVE A WINDMILL ON MY CAR, BUT DO I RIDE AROUND ON GOLDEN BEAMS OF LIGHT

    Back in May, presidential candidate Mitt Romney, in discussing energy policy, made a case for increased fossil fuel production by saying you can’t ride around with a windmill on your car.

    Last November, my wife and I bought a Chevy Volt (thank you Fred Beans), and after driving it around for a month or two, liked it so much we decided to carry on with phase two of our electric vehicle plan, and installed solar panels on our garage roof to charge it (thank you Sunpower). In the six months we’ve owned the Volt, we’ve been to the gas station 5 times. Our lifetime fuel efficiency to date is over 180 m.p.g. But that’s somewhat beside the point, because we seldom use gasoline. Almost ninety percent of the time, our car’s electric engine is powered by its battery, which is charged by our rooftop solar array. So while we don’t have a windmill on our Volt, our car does, in fact, run on sunshine.

    If we can run our cars on sunshine, don’t you think that’s something we should, as a nation, as a culture, want to do? Why isn’t that an obvious choice, a slam dunk, a no brainer?

    I’ll concede that putting solar on my garage was an investment. But in approximately 5 years, depending on fuel prices, it will have paid for itself. And then the solar array will continue to power my car, and any future cars (and continue to offset a substantial amount of our household electric usage) for decades. For long after I’m gone. With no further input or investment required. What investor wouldn’t put money in a venture that is guaranteed to break even and create profits for decades thereafter?

    Then consider the cost of delivering a gallon of gasoline to your tank. From locating a well site, to drilling thousands of feet into the ground (or sea floor), pumping the oil, shipping it to a refinery (or sending it down a pipeline thousands of miles long), finally trucking it to your service station, so that you then can pump it into your car. And when you’ve driven an hour down the road, that gallon is gone forever, and the whole process starts over.

    Could we possibly devise a more wasteful, destructive, and energy intensive process? Why on earth would any individual citizen, much less leader (or group of leaders), cling to that 19th century process and not celebrate the advent of technologies that promise to move us beyond it? Imagine how fast the cost of solar, wind and other renewables (read: hydrogen) would go down, if the resources we now devote to squeezing every last ounce of dirty fossil fuel out of the ground were devoted to new technologies. And think of how much the efficiencies of such technologies would increase, if we were truly committed to developing them.

    Of course the Chevy Volt is only one vehicle, and has its limitations. I wish it were a little bigger, and if it had an all wheel drive option, I’d already own two. But the fact is, it represents the basis for a true revolution in vehicle technology. Such a development, delivered to our door by a US manufacturer, should make every American proud. Our leaders should be turning cartwheels at the prospect. And as citizens, we should all be excited by the prospect of moving to new and better energy technologies, like solar powered electric vehicles. They are here. They’re real. You can buy them off the shelf.
    I find it hard to believe that Obama tried putting a windmill on his car . I know his ideas are backwards , but that's just too much .
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