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    Default Finland public charging starts pay era

    First news of public chargingin in Finland turning to pay-by-charge instead of free use. This announcements comes along the times when 1000 EV/Plugin cars are on the streets.

    Payment is by kWh used with lectricity cost of 0,19/kWh, which means roughly 60% on top of home electricity (200-300% to utility). With charging losses this is comparable to (winter/summer) average of ~3.0l/100km gasoline usage, keeping public charging still as somewhat a viable option in Finland.

    http://www.turkuenergia.fi/kotitalou...atauspalvelut/
    Chevrolet Volt 2012 - average: 2.2l/100km (106mpg) / 31,000 miles
    VW Touran 1.9 TDI DSG - average: 5.6l/100km (42mpg) / 130,000 miles
    Chrysler Grand Voyager 3.3 V6 - average: 11.0l/100km (21mpg) / 7500 miles

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    Quote Originally Posted by somms View Post
    New automaker builds '1000kW' EV

    Speaking of Finland, what is the story behind the 1000kW EV monster being built there!?
    I've never heard of that and I follow car news closely. I would think something like that would've been written a lot about here...

    Edit. Checked it out and there is indeed a Finnish company Toroidion Oy, which was founded 2011. I have my doubts, but fingers crossed that something will actually come out some day.
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    Today there was a story of Toroidion company on HS, the biggest news paper in Finland. The founder and CEO has worked as a designer for Jaguar and Honda before. Not much about the car, they wanted to keep it hush-hush until the unveiling at Monaco. They said it contains something new and revolutionary (?) and that their ultimate goal is a mass market car. Let's hope for the best.
    http://www.hs.fi/autot/a1424399944761

    And on topic: I'm not too thrilled about the pre-pay system, but their phone app seems pretty darn handy. https://www.virta.fi/
    It shows (also free) charging points in Finland, but also in Scandinavia and central Europe. It also has a single button to switch to navigation to the charging point! Nice!
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    Sounds like a nice car, but...

    .. Looking at the corporate structure and other ties/companies from the key people involved, I fear that this product will be just smoke & mirrors. I maybe wrong but with 70000€/year budget you don't design anything resembling a new car. They may have some desing idea/concept or even an outer hull, but unless they got few million bucks last year and outsourced all production there just isn't any capital/personnel involved.

    Sounds very much like a one mans dream (or showcase), lets see if it realizes.
    Chevrolet Volt 2012 - average: 2.2l/100km (106mpg) / 31,000 miles
    VW Touran 1.9 TDI DSG - average: 5.6l/100km (42mpg) / 130,000 miles
    Chrysler Grand Voyager 3.3 V6 - average: 11.0l/100km (21mpg) / 7500 miles

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    http://www.goodnewsfinland.com/archi...tric-supercar/

    Preliminary details about the Toroidion 1MW claim that it will be fully electric and develop one megawatt of power (hence the 1MW name). That equates to 1341 hp.

    > 1300hp is just insane!


    Tesla Updating P85D To 0–60 MPH In 2.8 Seconds With Nothing But Firmware Update?

    Any guesses as to how much quicker the 1MW will be than the P85D since it is @2x the amount of hp!?





    BTW: Is the above a legit ad shown in Finland!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by somms View Post
    BTW: Is the above a legit ad shown in Finland!?
    Yup, it's legit ad, although not a primetime TV but available from the Helsinki City Electric company (HELEN) Internet based advertizing. Basically the are noting about the system where you are using combined heat from their electricity plant and the heat exchangers can work in two directions.

    IE: You generate heat, your radiator liquid catches it and that heat is then put back into the city wide heating system instead of just vented out.
    Chevrolet Volt 2012 - average: 2.2l/100km (106mpg) / 31,000 miles
    VW Touran 1.9 TDI DSG - average: 5.6l/100km (42mpg) / 130,000 miles
    Chrysler Grand Voyager 3.3 V6 - average: 11.0l/100km (21mpg) / 7500 miles

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