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    Quote Originally Posted by Koz View Post
    He paid $+100k to a company called Fisker for a car that has less range than the Volt, less interior usable space than the Volt, much worse MPGe than the Volt, and slower than its competition but is very pretty.
    You could say the same things in a Ferrari v Lamborghini v McLaren v Corvette debate. Except the prices would change - dramatically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuart22 View Post
    Wow. Those firefighters looked pretty casual about their work considering the car has a gas tank.
    That's what they do, another day at the office


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    Quote Originally Posted by Steverino View Post
    It will be interesting to see if this is attributed to the routing and thermal protection of the engine's exhaust system.

    P.S. I have Georgia-Pacific, Owens Corning, Marvin Windows, and Square D on speed dial in case I come home and see my house smoking or burning.
    LOL! I'd love to hear customer service take a call on this. Since customer service is so outsourced nowadays - does India tell people calling from the US to call 911? To get the emergency fire department there it's 101 or 2611. They don't have 911.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maczr1 View Post
    It would appear it is not so easy to design and build a car from scratch. A company with long term experience would be a better choice.
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    We have learned that lesson with our current President. Experience matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by montgom626 View Post
    We have learned that lesson with our current President. Experience matters.
    No reason to take threads off track and to a political nature. I tried PMing you about your post and past ones but your PM is blocked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wishman View Post
    I was thinking the firefighter were not going to take a chance of electrocution. They probably didn't have the training and it seems like the one with the hose was moving further back.
    Based on what I see in the video, the first firefighter got the hose laid out while the second firefighter (off camera) donned his SCBA. You do NOT want to inhale the smoke off of that fire. When the SCBA equipped firefighter came into the screen, the first firefighter went off screen and then you could hear and see the hose get charged with water. The firefighter with the hose backed up to remove a kink from the hose to allow it to charge properly. Once the line was charged, the firefighter moved in, first sprayed the other vehicle to cool it down and then began extinguishing the fire.

    Not sure why you want to criticize someone doing a job that you seem to know very little about.

    There was nothing wrong with this fire attack, or the actions of the firefighters.
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    Maybe I'm not being fair, but I really can't help but dislike Fisker Automotive. It annoys me that they have the nerve to release the least efficient electric vehicle on the market and still try to claim that their mediocre fuel economy, performance, and emissions figures are somehow mighty impressive. I mean, for example (this is from their site):
    403 horsepower to the rear wheels. A staggering 959 ft-lbs of torque. Zero–60 mph in only 6.3 seconds.
    "Only" 6.3 seconds? For an $100k sports sedan (apparently) that's just awful, and that's with the generator running to provide power to the motor. The actual figure for all-electric mode is somewhere around 7.8 seconds IIRC.

    All while achieving an impressively high EPA rating of 54 MPGe
    Impressive compared to what? The Volt gets 94 MPGe, the Model S gets 89 MPGe. Even the rather horrible CODA Sedan recieved something like 74 MPGe. I still can't find an electric vehicle that's less efficient than the Karma.

    and an equally impressive low CO2 emission of 188g/mile. Is there something wrong here? Or is everything finally right?
    188g/mile is about 30kg/100km. Just for comparison, the Audi A8 has a CO2 emission of around 26km/100km.

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