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    According to the Arizona Legislature website, this is the last change to the law: 7/19/2011 11:46:15 PM 28-876 - Parking spaces for electric vehicles; civil penalty. Pretty sure Jan Brewer signed that one. Other than that timestamp, it's really hard to discover what changed when and when the law originated - the Arizona Legislature website is a tad clunky. Random searching found a lot of language in the late 90's early 2000's that talked about "neighborhood electric vehicles" (when I read that, I get a picture of a golf cart in my head), but not about "electric vehicles" as we know them today

    It's kinda funny, but I don't think Volt's qualify for the license plate/sticker, at least according to the letter of the statutes. Am I missing something?
    28-2416. Alternative fuel vehicle special plates; stickers; use of high occupancy vehicle lanes; definition
    A. A person who owns a motor vehicle that has either been converted or manufactured to use an alternative fuel as the vehicle's exclusive fuel source and that is incapable of operating on any other type of fuel and the alternative fuel was subject to the use fuel tax imposed pursuant to chapter 16 of this title before April 1, 1997 shall apply for alternative fuel vehicle special plates pursuant to this section.
    B. The department shall issue alternative fuel vehicle special plates, or an alternative fuel vehicle sticker as provided in subsection D of this section, to a person who satisfies all of the following:
    1. Owns a motor vehicle that is exclusively powered by an alternative fuel and that is incapable of operating on any other type of fuel.
    2. Provides proof as follows:
    (a) For an original equipment manufactured alternative fuel vehicle, the dealer who sells the motor vehicle shall provide to the department of transportation and the owner of the motor vehicle a certificate indicating:
    (i) That the motor vehicle is exclusively powered by an alternative fuel and is incapable of operating on any other type of fuel.
    (ii) The emission classification of the motor vehicle as low, inherently low, ultralow or zero.
    ...
    I. For the purposes of this section, "alternative fuel" has the same meaning prescribed in section 1-215.
    and section 1-215 says this about alternative fuel:
    1-215. Definitions
    In the statutes and laws of this state, unless the context otherwise requires:
    4. "Alternative fuel" means:
    (a) Electricity.
    (b) Solar energy.
    (c) Liquefied petroleum gas, natural gas, hydrogen or a blend of hydrogen with liquefied petroleum or natural gas that complies with any of the following:
    (i) Is used in an engine that is certified to meet at a minimum the United States environmental protection agency low emission vehicle standard pursuant to 40 Code of Federal Regulations section 88.104-94 or 88.105-94.
    (ii) Is used in an engine that is certified by the engine modifier to meet the addendum to memorandum 1-A of the United States environmental protection agency as printed in the federal register, volume 62, number 207, October 27, 1997, pages 55635 through 55637.
    (iii) Is used in an engine that is the subject of a waiver for that specific engine application from the United States environmental protection agency's memorandum 1-A addendum requirements and that waiver is documented to the reasonable satisfaction of the director of the department of environmental quality.
    (d) Only for vehicles that use alcohol fuels before August 21, 1998, alcohol fuels that contain not less than eighty-five per cent alcohol by volume.
    (e) A combination of at least seventy per cent alternative fuel and no more than thirty per cent petroleum based fuel that operates in an engine that meets the United States environmental protection agency low emission vehicle standard pursuant to 40 Code of Federal Regulations section 88.104-94 or 88.105-94 and that is certified by the engine manufacturer to consume at least seventy per cent alternative fuel during normal vehicle operations.
    Ron C. / Chicago-area
    2012 Crystal Red Tintcoat Volt C8794, acquired 11/08/2011

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    Yeah I am hoping that section 2,a, ii is enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShannonVolt View Post
    I support charging stations everywhere there is parking BUT that does not entitle us for front row seats. To be given the privilege to park next to a handicap space because we drive EV's is weak.
    It's not weak, it's economics. It costs a lot of money to dig up asphalt and lay electrical cable, so you can bet that charging stations are placed as close to the buildings if that's where the electrical connections are close by. I can think of two locations I charge that are far from the door only because the needed electrical connection was closest to the power source. An EV that needs a charge has one parking option whereas an ICE vehicle has many parking options in a lot. Better signs are needed
    Steve in Boca Raton #313

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