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Originally Posted by Aseras
My HV battery didn't make it 2 full years
how did that episode turn out? do you have either your car back or a replacement? or still in wonderland ?
My May 2011 with 85k miles Volt is still going strong. I had a passenger seat heater replaced this month, but that's something that could happen to any car, and has. Could it be my bony butt?
Originally Posted by kindlibrarian
I own a 2014 Volt with 55K miles on it, about 90% are electric miles. I have aftermarket extended warrantee for up to 5 years.
I normally trade in cars at 4 years, but I know that Prius' batteries have shown long life and I am wondering how many years I might be able to hang on to the Volt with it remaining reliable.
Some of this is probably unknowable but perhaps 2011 or 2012 owners might comment.
the others have made good comments, but to reinforce: battery life is not a worry, yes there will be normal brake and suspension maintenance, (less of one and more of the other perhaps) and normal wear and tear in the interior, and your internal combustion engine now has about a year's use on it. ...(ha!)
the transmission fluid should be changed per the manual (90,000 miles except in hard service conditions)
but the battery is and should be the last of your concerns! why, what if after 4000 full charge /discharge cycles, it loses 15 % of its charge capability? that would be 10 years for most people, you would not change anything, just keep on driving, you still have a car that on a decent spring day can drive 35 miles on the battery before turning on the generator. and if after 6000 charge cycles it has lost 25% of its capacity? you still have a car that can go 28 miles before turning on the generator. I don't know if or if not those are reasonable numbers, but the point is that capacity degradation is not a big deal in a volt, even though none of us have seen it, because of the way the volt works... That all said, there is reportedly a capacity level at which the car will complain, but I have not read any reports about it being an issue except where there were specific hard defects in cells. which you apparently don't have. There have been a few reports of packs dying and being replace because of one of a set of internal problems that caused systems failure, but these were not the gradual cell degradation that you and others have worried about .
Originally Posted by llninja
An ex-coworker of mine drove a beater into the ground for 10 years while paying himself a car payment, when he finally decided to buy a new car, he had the cash for a brand new Tesla Model 60.
I plan on keeping my Volt at least 10 years and expect it to go that long without major repairs.
Working in it's favor:
1) The "transmission" is actually quite simple
2) The ICE in my Volt lives a very pampered life. It basically only gets used for highway trips and I am careful in all cases to never let it run for less than 5 miles when it does come on. I run it a minimum of once every 3 weeks to keep it happy and feeling loved.
3) Most of the complexity in the Volt is electronics and software. The former tend to fail early if they are going to fail and the latter doesn't wear out
4) As others have mentioned, the traction battery and electric drive system has proven very durable
5) No power seats - these often fail after 100K miles and can be shockingly expensive to repair
Working against it? I am concerned a little about all the cooling loops and associated sensors, pumps and seals.
Originally Posted by Just_Jon
My son was 2 when I got my Jeep. He was 16 when I passed it down to him and got my Volt.
I doubt the original Volt battery will last 14.5 years with almost no loss in performance like the Jeep ICE did.
Originally I bought my '13 as an extended test drive and stop-gap since Gen 2 Volts weren't available here when I needed another car. But I am so pleased with it, I will probably continue driving it for many years (car gods be willing).
I tend to keep my cars a long time, too. And I have no reason to think the main battery won't last that long. And if it doesn't, who knows, maybe a reasonably affordable, and even higher capacity, replacement might be available.
Originally Posted by firehawk72
Hmmm, not so sure I can back you up on this one. Would I really want my daughter driving a 2016 in 2030? Hmmm, probably not, LOL
My 16 year old daughter drives a 2003 Mercury Sable. That's the same age my Volt will be when my son starts driving. Sure, things may change faster in the next 14 years than they did in the last 14, but look around at how many 20+ year old cars are still on the road. The average age of a car on the road today is 11-1/2 years and rising, so a massive amount of 2010-2020 cars will still be on the road then. My '16 Volt won't be that out of place!
Originally Posted by deekster_caddy
Just a tip on the side, unrelated to the original thread - when looking at snow tires make sure you are looking at LRR ones. Tirerack has a filter for LRR even with winter tires. They shouldn't be that large of a penalty.
Yup. Snow tires, below about 40F, shouldn't be causing a range hit of more than about 5%. I'm running a little further down from sidewall max pressure this winter, simply because the temperature is swinging so much more than it does in summer, and the Blizzaks are getting about 27-28 miles, while the Ecopias got 28-30 under the winter conditions. (Summer variation might be 25F between low-low and high-high for a week rolling, this winter, pretty much EVERY WEEK is at least 30F varying, and usually closer to 45F, like Tuesday's low might be -5 and Friday's high 40F. That's 4 PSI to be chasing around. The little compressor is getting weekly use.)
You can tell I bought the snow tires at the beginning of December because that's when the heavy snowfall quit. Hasn't been more than an inch or two at a time since. llninja's curse continues....
Originally Posted by Henry_FL
Battery's will be the last of your concerns on the Volt, they are warranted for 10 years in your state. As for the rest of the car, its a very complex car and getting anything fixed out of warranty can very quickly run into the thousands for repairs. No one can say when things might go wrong, its always just a guess.
My HV battery didn't make it 2 full years
Originally Posted by mr_raider
The infortainment system, HVAC system, and various electric accessories are likely to fail long before the battery. GM has not replaced a single Volt battery pack due to degradation, last I checked.
Agreed. My 2011 Volt has over 80k miles (75% electric) and still going strong. What's failed? The passenger seat heater last month.