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  • 01-19-2017 12:10 AM
    jbakerjonathan
    Quote Originally Posted by jeff_h View Post
    I think most people do go through their own lists of "must-have" and "nice-to-have" amenities when making a purchase. As for getting the word back to GM or other companies, I always tend to get the long surveys after purchase from various firms to gather info on why things were chosen. There are normally a long list of current features and new owner chooses options like "wanted it and got it", "didn't want it but it was on the car anyway", and "wanted it but it wasn't available." I hope that each automaker pays the survey companies to get these details in order to base their product strategy in the future -- whether they do or not or to what degree they use it, I have no idea but well at least that's why I complete the surveys when I get them.
    I agree with you and wish that I had gotten such surveys when I leased my 2012 and bought my 2014. Sadly, that didn't happen.

    My comments on making a list were derived in part from the OP's experience.
  • 01-15-2017 10:09 AM
    jeff_h
    Quote Originally Posted by jbakerjonathan View Post
    Not all cars come with every conceivable amenity or "standard" feature. I think, though, that complaining about the omission of a feature on list such as this one is useful in conveying to GM what they should install in their new designs going forward.
    I think most people do go through their own lists of "must-have" and "nice-to-have" amenities when making a purchase. As for getting the word back to GM or other companies, I always tend to get the long surveys after purchase from various firms to gather info on why things were chosen. There are normally a long list of current features and new owner chooses options like "wanted it and got it", "didn't want it but it was on the car anyway", and "wanted it but it wasn't available." I hope that each automaker pays the survey companies to get these details in order to base their product strategy in the future -- whether they do or not or to what degree they use it, I have no idea but well at least that's why I complete the surveys when I get them.
  • 01-15-2017 09:55 AM
    jbakerjonathan
    Perhaps a person shopping for a new car should sit down and make a list of items that he/she wants in a new car and then search for cars having those items. Having Homelink is useful. Having an auto-dim rear-view mirror is useful. Having USB outlets is useful. Having AA and/or CarPlay is useful. Having a CD player is useful. Having a spare tire is useful. ...Or not. Each person's list will be different. I think that the list should include the items that are considered mainstream, so as to not be shocked to find that the newly bought car doesn't have that "standard" item. Not all cars come with every conceivable amenity or "standard" feature. I think, though, that complaining about the omission of a feature on list such as this one is useful in conveying to GM what they should install in their new designs going forward.
  • 01-14-2017 03:15 AM
    Cari
    I don't agree that Homelink is a minor thing. I don't think auto-diming rear view mirror is a minor thing, yet both cost little to install and every car should have them. If you can put in power windows, then the other two items for safety and security should be installed. I, like many, enter our homes via the garage. Having a Homelink that doesn't work when power is off is the best way to handle this. I can open my garage with an app on my phone, but I am guessing that app isn't going to show up as one of the apps in AA.
  • 01-13-2017 08:57 PM
    devbolt
    Built-in Homelink is great, unless it's the type that works whether or not the car is on, or if the ignition key is or isn't present.

    In three of our Toyota's that came with Homelink (2004 Sienna, 2005 Prius, 2016 Highlander), the Homelink buttons were active whether or not you had the key on you or the car was on. 2011 Mini Countryman, on the other hand, Homelink buttons only worked when the car was on. A minor security issue with the Toyotas. Pretty much on the same level as carrying around a remote clipped to your visor, which is what I have to do with for my 2012 Plug-in Prius Base (no Homelink on that trim level).

    Lack of Homelink is such a minor thing in the grand scheme of this car. A small garage door remote that you can carry on your keychain is less than $30 on Amazon.
  • 01-13-2017 06:26 PM
    fernando
    I for one am thankful you mentioned this.
  • 01-13-2017 05:21 PM
    socalif
    Yes everybody, I do accept the "end" responsibility of the items missing. BUT I have never had an issue with a salesman stating features are there, and them not being there afterwards. But like everyone else, I have had sales people make incorrect statements, but for one, this was this dealerships Finance Manager, all sales people were busy, or not in yet.

    Was it a deal killer? Obviously not, and I got what I deserved/inspected. (or didnt inspect) So I will enjoy the vehicle I have, and deal with it.

    My main goal is to make anyone else aware, that the obvious and the little things you would expect, and what appears to be the norm, just isnt there and so no one else has to experience my mistakes.

    Applemaps just isnt a Nav system, although it may be more updated, but can you zoom in and out or change the view from a moving screen to a static flat north/south looking screen like you can on Nav? Not that I have figured out. One level of zoom and one mode of viewing is all I have been able to see. (not how I have used nav for 10 years) So not used to it yet.

    Homelink is a lot better than carrying around a remote which can be easily taken out/stolen, Homelink not so much. And for $40g's, a $100 Homelink preinstalled would be a good GM fix, for those who use it.
  • 01-13-2017 01:58 AM
    Geohec
    Quote Originally Posted by Geohec View Post
    As i stated earlier in the thread (http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread....82#post3813282) a good work aroud might be trying out Android Auto and google maps. If you like it, then plug in a $30 android phone and use a hotspot on your iphone for $5/mo for maps. Your iphone could be used via bluetooth for phone calls. Try out a friends Android phone and check it out. Many forum members on G2 forum prefer the AA to built in NAV.

    http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread....My-Experiences)
    Thought i read this was possible with G2 volt but just verified that i cant have Android phone plugged in using AA and iphone on bluetooth for calls at the same time. Sorry about that. I thought I'd read that on a G2 Volt forum but must have been based on a guess not fact. Oh well. Try to enjoy your new ride.
  • 01-12-2017 05:29 PM
    Geohec
    Quote Originally Posted by socalif View Post
    I am embarrassed that I believed what I was told, and for being in a rush to complete a purchase on that day, and being embarrassed listening to a GM employee state all Bolts have nav while stating it has such the largest screen to date that GM has put in a car. Embarrassed that it sounded logical with such a large screen, and the salesman's words that I didnt flip screen by screen to look for the nav while in the parking lot detail area.
    As i stated earlier in the thread (http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread....82#post3813282) a good work aroud might be trying out Android Auto and google maps. If you like it, then plug in a $30 android phone and use a hotspot on your iphone for $5/mo for maps. Your iphone could be used via bluetooth for phone calls. Try out a friends Android phone and check it out. Many forum members on G2 forum prefer the AA to built in NAV.

    http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread....My-Experiences)
  • 01-12-2017 05:28 PM
    Steverino
    Quote Originally Posted by socalif View Post
    embarrassed listening to a GM employee state all Bolts have nav while stating it has such the largest screen to date that GM has put in a car.
    To be clear, the person who misinformed you was not a GM employee any more than a WalMart store sales clerk is a Sony employee.

    The sales rep is employed by a dealership, an independent business not owned by GM. And franchise laws make it very to hard almost impossible for GM to "fire" a dealer. And a he said/he said like this would not stand a chance because regrettably you are presumably of sound mind yet took zero prudent steps to verify anything, even though given at least 3 opportunities to do so.

    Sorry for the car dealer life lesson but it's time to chalk it up to experience and move on. The good(?) news is no one else is getting Nav or Homelink either. Time to use your phone for the center screen nav function as intended and use the garage door remote clipped to your visor.
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