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  • 2 Days Ago 10:24 AM
    MP81
    As we currently have a 2014 Cruze Diesel, one of the '17s was certainly under consideration for my vehicle before I decided on the Volt.

    If the 2018s were out, and I could get the hatchback, as well as one trim level higher, I'd be in a Cruze Diesel hatch right now. But the '17s are only available in an LT sedan configuration.

    Our '14 has been a great car, and easily surpasses the EPA mileage figures, especially once you put it on the freeway. We visited my in-laws last spring and made it from our house to Zebulon, NC (just east of Raleigh) without stopping. I filled the car up a couple days after arriving at 750 miles on the tank. And that was with the trunk absolutely packed.
  • 2 Days Ago 08:25 AM
    turboguy327
    Quote Originally Posted by SSonnentag View Post
    In other words, your emissions system was broken, so you took it out. No Diesel truck gets that poor fuel mileage. Even my longbed dually with intact DPF and urea system gets 20 mpg and 13 mpg when towing.
    I doubt it came broken.
  • 2 Days Ago 08:19 AM
    SSonnentag
    Quote Originally Posted by turboguy327 View Post
    I went from 13-15 to 24-25 mpg hand calculated. In NY my truck passed it's annual state inspection. The truck injects fuel on the exhaust stroke to heat up the DPF, wasting a ton of fuel, watering down the oil with fuel, and creating a tremendous amount of damaging heat.

    The point of a diesel is long engine life.
    In other words, your emissions system was broken, so you took it out. No Diesel truck gets that poor fuel mileage. Even my longbed dually with intact DPF and urea system gets 20 mpg and 13 mpg when towing.
  • 2 Days Ago 07:43 AM
    turboguy327
    I went from 13-15 to 24-25 mpg hand calculated. In NY my truck passed it's annual state inspection. The truck injects fuel on the exhaust stroke to heat up the DPF, wasting a ton of fuel, watering down the oil with fuel, and creating a tremendous amount of damaging heat.

    The point of a diesel is long engine life.
  • 3 Days Ago 11:00 PM
    SSonnentag
    Quote Originally Posted by turboguy327 View Post
    Seeing as how the engine will actually live a long, healthy and trouble free life while doubling the MPG there is no downside, unless you have a ford, especially a diesel, then you'll need the warranty.
    Now you're just being silly. Removing emissions equipment will in no way double your MPG. You'd be lucky to gain a couple of MPG. It also violates federal law. I know in Arizona there are periodic road blocks where all diesel passenger vehicles are pulled over and inspected to check emissions equipment and the type of fuel being used. If you are found to be in violation there are expensive fines and penalties.
  • 3 Days Ago 10:14 PM
    turboguy327
    Quote Originally Posted by Jmaj View Post
    Removing the emissions system from a car might void the warranty, you think?
    Yes, it will void the power train warranty as you'd be programming the PCM. But I have a cummins/ram so I wasn't worried about the warranty. It was deleted the day after I took ownership and I needed the warranty once for a front pinion seal leak at 98,000 miles and it was fixed under warranty.

    Seeing as how the engine will actually live a long, healthy and trouble free life while doubling the MPG there is no downside, unless you have a ford, especially a diesel, then you'll need the warranty.
  • 3 Days Ago 03:07 PM
    Jmaj
    Removing the emissions system from a car might void the warranty, you think?

    Diesel vs. conventional Cruze, I would get the diesel just because. Volts are expensive, locally. Hate to think I have to ship one in from out of state. The path of least resistance is to go with the oil burner. Oh well, there's always next time.
  • 3 Days Ago 11:26 AM
    mr_raider
    Quote Originally Posted by Jmaj View Post
    Typically nothing like urban stop and go and I do some long driving trips - my GEN I lifetime mpg was 70 ish when I turned it in. I'm going to have to do some work on the Volt price.. I'll pay some delta over conventional for the EV but only so much.
    Then diesel may be for you. On moderate speed highway drives, gen 1 cruze diesel owners regularly beat their EPA ratings.

    That being said, teh question IMHO, is not Cruze diesel vs Volt. For you, you should be assessing whether the regular Cruze might be sufficient. It gets good enough mileage on the highway, and the cost increase to the diesel may not be recovered during your ownership period.
  • 3 Days Ago 11:20 AM
    turboguy327

    Testdrive in a Diesel Cruze

    Quote Originally Posted by SSonnentag View Post
    Having owned several Diesel vehicles, I can agree with this, other than the Urea part. For instance, my 1-ton pickup required the Urea tank to be topped off every 9,000 miles, at a cost of roughly $7. So the expense of the Urea is not a real factor. The expense of oil changes on a Diesel is a factor though, costing 2-3 times what a gas vehicle would. Diesel vehicles are becoming less fuel efficient as EPA regulations increase. A Diesel Hybrid would probably be the most fuel efficient, but also the most costly to purchase.
    Delete it. Not only will you never have to worry about DEF, the oil stays a lot cleaner for a lot longer. I get 25MPG with my 6.7 cummins and change the oil every 20-25,000 miles using amsoil and blackstone. And the engine will last a lot longer without that garbage on there.
  • 3 Days Ago 10:10 AM
    El Dobro
    My last TDI was an '09 and the Prius I traded it in on trounced it in fuel mileage, in the city and on the highway and with less maintenance to boot.
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