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  • 6 Days Ago 07:12 PM
    Bacardi
    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    >It does if you want only one car and you're a young mating age male that likes to "take off on a Road Trip" !!

    >> RWD is not the 'superior' in the snow, ice, mud, etc.
    Many RWD Tesla's have outperformed ICE FWD vehicles yet it's about the software; I wouldn't be surprised if most FWD EVs outperform a RWD Tesla...Consumer reports did many tests on ICE vehicles on snow/ice and concluded 2WD with snow tires outperformed AWD with all season tires...Maybe a good article for an auto mag would be how all EVs perform with OEM tires on snow/ice...

    Quote Originally Posted by slipnslider View Post
    I was reading on i3 forums and many owners were talking to dealerships who either refused to participate in it or had never even heard of it. It makes sense dealers would refuse if they aren't getting any $ from BMW for renting out gas cars to i3 drivers for free.
    There's a spreadsheet floating around the i3 forums, but it is a "living document", dealerships can change month to month along with their requirements...Some require you to have purchased at their dealership, some are first come first serve only while others are by appts only...But with the larger battery and larger gas tank seems like less hassle to just fill up every 90mins-2 hours...
  • 6 Days Ago 06:47 PM
    rmay635703
    Quote Originally Posted by slipnslider View Post
    I think vaporware implies it exists on paper only, or only as a prototype, and might never be produced. They're building the production line for the M3. They're testing the final designs. The car is going to happen. There is ZERO chance the M3 disappears.
    All the examples I provided are considered vaporware, all have a real world example or more, most took reservations, some had built production lines,
    TWO sold a few production examples to insiders before bankruptcy or lawsuit or "insert reason here"

    All Still considered vaporware, even though some examples were sold.

    So M3 is vaporware until it isn't
  • 6 Days Ago 05:29 PM
    slipnslider
    Quote Originally Posted by jupitermoon View Post
    My friend has been using it on and off so I'm not sure what was the lie about it?
    I was reading on i3 forums and many owners were talking to dealerships who either refused to participate in it or had never even heard of it. It makes sense dealers would refuse if they aren't getting any $ from BMW for renting out gas cars to i3 drivers for free.
  • 6 Days Ago 04:50 PM
    jupitermoon
    Quote Originally Posted by slipnslider View Post
    From my research it sounds like that program barely existed. BMW was just making empty promises to sell cars. It seems you're allowed to just lie to people these days if it gets you want you want.
    My friend has been using it on and off so I'm not sure what was the lie about it?
  • 6 Days Ago 04:48 PM
    jupitermoon
    Quote Originally Posted by slipnslider View Post
    If I get an i3, I think I'll get the range extender engine simply because as the batteries age they're not going to get 80 miles anymore. Once they're down to like 50 mile capacity that's a pretty useless situation.
    That pretty much defines a Volt does it.
  • 6 Days Ago 04:45 PM
    jupitermoon
    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    >It does if you want only one car and you're a young mating age male that likes to "take off on a Road Trip" !!

    >> RWD is not the 'superior' in the snow, ice, mud, etc.
    Lot's of very specific definitions for not so specific a general public. I guess you can impose all sorts of restrictions as to what would fit your needs if you really try hard enough.

    If I take off on a road trip, I usually rent anyway so breaking my brain over things like this is moot.

    RWD is superior enough of the time for it not to be a problem and more of an advantage. Also, it requires you to be a better driver.
  • 6 Days Ago 04:10 PM
    Loiter
    Thoughts on this:
    http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...delCode1=BMWI3

    Long friggin link..

    But I miss driving electric. My commute is 60 miles round trip, and most of it highway doing 75-80. Would I be able to make it back and forth?

    Wondering if that's a good buy.
  • 6 Days Ago 04:05 PM
    Norton
    Quote Originally Posted by slipnslider View Post
    .....If I get an i3, I think I'll get the range extender engine simply because ...
    Well, the i3 Rex is slower,, to the point that my <$10k Spark EV is just barely slower in a 0-60 mph dash.

    Which brings up the Cost - Performance - Looks conundrum as only 2 of those are measurable.
  • 6 Days Ago 03:26 PM
    Bacardi
    Quote Originally Posted by Sean-a-Tron View Post
    Compared to the Volt, the i3 REX is a pretty terrible car in terms of range and cost. The i3 costs $10,000 more and only goes about 180 miles combined. The Volt goes 420 miles combined. There's also been complaints of the i3 performing poorly on steep inclines in gas mode.
    Half of all EVs/PHEVs are sold/leased in Cali and take your pick, probably 70-80% of all EVs/PHEVs are sold in CARB states where the incentives are better...Today 70-80% of buyers could probably get a i3 cheaper than a Bolt due to an array of incentives the Bolt doesn't offer...A Volt on the other hand is heavily incentivized...
  • 6 Days Ago 02:06 PM
    slipnslider
    Quote Originally Posted by jupitermoon View Post
    No one really cares much if the i3 doesn't do 420 miles. Few people do that on a regular basis and BMW even had a program (not sure it does anymore) where you can turn in your i3 and pick up a rental for 2 weeks out of the year.
    From my research it sounds like that program barely existed. BMW was just making empty promises to sell cars. It seems you're allowed to just lie to people these days if it gets you want you want.
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