: Awaiting linthium-ion cars - Baltimore Sun



BestTimesNow
06-22-2008, 06:00 PM
"The plug-in Toyota is working on will have a range of 10 to 15 miles on electric only and then operate like the Prius, so the benefits to owners may not be as great as those of the Volt."

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bay_environment/bal-bz.ml.batteries22jun22,0,93532.story

Jason M. Hendler
06-22-2008, 06:04 PM
Toyota has been caught with their pants down. NiMH batteries are going to be pushed aside, as only Li Ion will work for plug-in applications.

Texas
06-22-2008, 06:25 PM
Toyota has been caught with their pants down. NiMH batteries are going to be pushed aside, as only Li Ion will work for plug-in applications.


Don't get upset people. Jason knows full well that Japanese lithium-ion research has the greatest amount of funding on earth. He also knows that Toyota already stated that they will have a plug-in lithium-ion hybrid out in 2010. It might even beat the Volt out of the gate and be more affordable. He just likes to stir the pot and flame the competitive fires. Jason, shame on you for your trickery. ;)

Jason M. Hendler
06-22-2008, 06:27 PM
Don't get upset people. Jason knows full well that Japanese lithium-ion research has the greatest amount of funding on earth. He also knows that Toyota already stated that they will have a plug-in lithium-ion hybrid out in 2010. It might even beat the Volt out of the gate and be more affordable. He just likes to stir the pot and flame the competitive fires. Jason, shame on you for your trickery. ;)

Yes, but it took Toyota 18 months to admit that they were pregnant with the wrong technologies, and needed to abort and start over. Maybe they can make a small 70 hp version of their Atkinson cycle engine for the range extender.

dagwood55
06-23-2008, 12:44 AM
Toyota has been caught with their pants down. NiMH batteries are going to be pushed aside, as only Li Ion will work for plug-in applications.

Call Toyota and tell them that their NiMH Rav4-EV doesn't work. I'm sure they'll be amused.

kubel
06-24-2008, 07:40 PM
There's absolutely nothing wrong with NiMH. In fact, if it meant a cheaper Volt and a little less trunk space, I would get one with a NiMH pack. Many RAV4-EVs have well over 100,000 miles on the packs and are still going strong.

willdryden
06-27-2008, 04:31 AM
Toyota has been caught with their pants down. NiMH batteries are going to be pushed aside, as only Li Ion will work for plug-in applications.

Tell that to the 300+ Rav4-EV drivers.

omegaman66
06-27-2008, 07:01 AM
There seems to be some confusion on what is currently viable vs what will be viable in the future.

marc55304
06-27-2008, 09:32 AM
GM tells us batteries are in testing and not ready yet.

This is a load of crap. GM has a interest in keeping us dependent on oil. The maintenance shop in the dealerships brings in the profits, not the new car sales. NO oil changes, no engines and trannys destroyed by lack of maint. would this be good for any dealer.

The Tesla roadster, at $109,000.00, is sold out for the next 12 months of production. The battery pack runs 250 miles on a 4 hour charge and will power the car 0-60 in 3.9 sec.

GM claims to be spending so much man hours and blah blah blah- I don't buy it. I also do not believe Toyota has a desire to build an electric car. This is all lip service to people who want this car.