IT'S ZOTYE NOT ZOYTE!

In production since March 2009!

Manufactured in Changhai, China!

PUBLISHED PRICE?

STICKER CHINESE RACE WINNER!

ZOTYE $29,995

THE RACE IS ON!

The GM VOLT Tortise VS the Chinese ZOTYE SUV & CODA Sedan Rabbit's!

The fastest 0-60mph, 9.5 seconds (*Maybe, I have seen other numbers on the net as high as Coda's), winner is: ZOTYE over CODA.

The ZOTYE SUV is in the race to market the most, "All electric vehicles in the US in 2010 & 2011."

China has the production capacity to leave all other competitors eating their dust, if they want to!

ZOTYE can be number one in electric vehicles available for sale in the US with GM limiting the Volt to only 10,000 in its first 12-months of production.

ZOTYE is looking to have it's first 500 cars available in the US for sale before year end, in the Illinois area.

"""The ZOTYE SUV has been in production in Changhai, China since March 2009."""

It is not a new vehicle waiting for pre-production like the VOLT, or Long Beach, CA facilities & workers to get ready as is the CODA.

Who will win?

What type of vehicle is most popular?

An SUV or Sedan?

What about safety? Air bags? Right now I give the lead to the Volt with the most, and with CODA 2nd.

Would you buy a car on air bags only, & maybe one star difference in crash testing?

That may not be the deciding factor, since the ZOTYE SUV can go much farther than the CODA or VOLT sedan. Try double the all-electric miles, at least of the CODA & quadrouple the VOLT!

Whose numbers are real?

ZOTYE has limited its top speed to 70mph VS CODA 80mph.

ZOTYE does weigh the least, a staggering 1,000-lbs less. That is a lot of weight to shed! Only 2640-lbs vs CODA 3660-lbs. Even with a smaller battery, if you drop that kind of vehicle weight, you will go a lot farther.

However, what safety, comfort and reliability did you lose with that weight? That is the question? How & where, did they lighten the ZOTYE SUV? Till we know the answer to those questions, I think the verdict on the ZOTYE is still out!

**ZOTYE will be increasing a little weight with increasing 15" tire & rim sizes to 17" on the US model.



"ONLY ACTUAL OWNERS DRIVING THEIR VEHICLE, WILL TELL YOU THE REAL TRUTH ON ALL-ELECTRIC MILEAGE!"

CODA has said it can go a real 90-miles at highway speeds.

Maybe? At least they are not holding to their higher number.

I did hear from a source that ZOTYE could go 200-miles per charge in Texas, in the summer, at highway speeds. Yet, I have also seen on the Chinese and Indian sites that their version, which may or may not be electrically different, is only rated to go 186-miles per charge! Wait a darn minute here, that is not 250-miles per charge.

So, again, a bigger maybe?

Now the GM VOLT, they are sticking to the 40-miles per charge.

I asked them how far at 100*F summer at freeway speeds, and they flat out won't say, period!

I gave them 3-opportunities on the multiple video chats, and they refused to answer the question!

We do know that last winter when it was not below 0*F in Michigan, it only went 29-miles at highway speeds.

So, Volt's possible 29miles per charge isn't their average 40, Coda's 90 isn't its average 125 & finally Zotye's 186 may not be their 250!

So, whose Pinocchio's nose is growing the biggest with these whoppers!

"BURGER KING, LOOK OUT, SOMEONE IS MAKING WHOPPERS!"

Timing?

The ZOTYE SUV may very well beat CODA to the US market, but CODA is in Long Beach, CA and specializing in California to start. Whereas, ZOTYE is going for the, "BIG BANANA", not just California with a big dealer network system.

CODA has to build all of its electric systems in the US, whereas, ZOTYE is completely built and then shipped from China.

Now the Volt schedule is still an unknown. I have seen mid-November, but heard from dealers earlier than that. However, if GM makes its dealer demo cars after the governments first off the line, 500-cars, then the ZOTYE SUV may well be the first with the most sellable USA "Electric Cars" available for sale in the calendar year of 2010.

Differences: CODA will be sold by CODA direct to the public!

ZOTYE has to be sold through dealers, and its network is underway as we speak.

ZOTYE'S USA crash testing is currently underway as are CODA & VOLT. (*As far as we are told)

NOW THE BIG BANANA!

WHAT MAKES YOU WANT A ZOTYE?

IT'S AN SUV, NOT A BIG ONE?

BATTERY WARRANTY?

NO-YEAR BATTERY LIFE LIMIT & 85,000 MORE MILES!

THAT'S AN 85% BETTER BATTERY MILEAGE WARRANTY!

Both VOLT & CODA only give you 8-years on the most important part of the vehicle, its battery system!

IF YOU OWN A ZOTYE AT 30-YEARS & DON'T HAVE 185,000-MILES, "You are still covered at 100% on the battery!!!!

(*As with any warranty, be it GM, NISSAN, TOYOTA, HONDA, FORD, CODA or ZOTYE, that US insurance company better still be in business when you need to collect & from personal experience nothing is easy with a warranty!)

RELIABILITY?

ZOTYE doesn't have digital main guages or two LCD monitors to go wrong! It does have one display. It doesn't have another whole motor and all its controls to go wrong! Computers cost a lot of money when the warranty is gone! Personnally give me manual, not computerized every time. It can't be as quiet as a VOLT, since I could hear the whine when it took off in the video. However, insulation means more weight and lower electric mileage.

I just became interested in learning more about another vehicle, besides checking out the new 2011 Hyndai Sonata Hybrid with a better battery. A lithium polymer battery. Now nobody has a lock on my new car business with new competition and limited availability to 12-31-10!

RESALE:

With lots of battery warranty left, it will make the ZOTYE very sellable. Whereas, an out of warranty VOLT or CODA, means you will have to deduct that huge cost of a replacement battery pack off your Blue Book price to try and sell it.

If the Chinese car's Blue Book values falls like the Korean one's do, that could be a negative. However, like the Korean car prices, they are cheaper to buy new, and $5,000-$10,000 MSRP less up front is a lot of savings up front.

"A penny saved, is a penny earned!"


"ZOTYE SUV VS CODA SEDAN"

ZOTYE SUV SPECS

* Model#: JNJ6400EVL (WMI:LJ8)
* Five Door 4 seats Electric SUV (Lithium Ion Battery)
* Max Speed: 70 mph
* Range: 250 miles
* Differential: 8:1 automatic
* Front Wheel Drive
* Max Output of Motor: 27KW DC Motor
* Torque: 162 ft/lbs
* Motor Speed: 3000rpm (Max:6000rpm)
* Size: 12.8 feet long
* Wheelbase:8 feet
* Track(F/R):4.3 feet
* Curb Weight: 2640 lbs
* Tire: 205/70R15
* Wheels: Aluminum
* Battery: 320V (25.6KWH) Lithium Ion Battery
* Max Output of Battery: 52KW

CODA SEDAN
Wheelbase: 102.3 inches
Track-Front 66.0 inches
Track-Rear 66.5 inches
Overall Length: 175.0 inches
Overall Width: 69.0 inches
Overall Height: 57.6 inches
Turning Radius: 17.5 ft (curb)/18.6 ft (wall)
Headroom (front/rear): 36.5/35.0 inches
Shoulder Room (front/rear): 53.0/52.0 inches
Legroom (front/rear): 44.0/31.0 inches
Trunk Space: 14.7 cubic ft
Curb Weight: 3660 lbs
Vehicle range: 90-120 miles (US 06 & UDDS)
Top Speed: 80 mph (Electronically Limited)
Acceleration: 0-60 mph - under 11 seconds
Charge Time: 6 hours from 220V (30AMP)
Occupancy: 4 passengers
Vehicle Warranty: 3 years / 36,000 miles
Battery Warranty: 8 years / 100,000 miles
Battery Specifications
Battery Chemistry: Lithium-ion (LiFePO4)
Battery Configuration: 728 cells (104s7p)
Battery Energy: 33.8 kWh
Nominal Battery Voltage: 333V
Motor Power: 100 kW/134 hp
Motor Torque: 300 Nm/221 lb-ft
Transmission: Single Speed Gear Reduction
Drive Ratio: 6.54:1
Suspension: Four-wheel independent with front and rear MacPherson strut
Steering: Rack-and-pinion with electric power steering
Air Conditioning: 2.0 kW cabin cooling
DC:DC Converter 2.2 kW @13 V output
Charger: 6.6 kW / 220VAC Input or 1.3 kW / 110 VAC Input (back-up charging
Brakes: Anti-Lock Brake System (ABS), Electronic Stability Control
Air Bags: Intelligent 6 air bag system (two advanced frontal, two seat-mounted side, and 2 side curtain airbags), Occupant Detection System
Seat Belts: 3 point
Safety Compliance: All applicable Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards
Crash Safety: Anticipated 5-Star NCAP (New Car Assessment Program)

Information from CODA site & Green Automotive site in Texas and attached article & sources.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_7-20010925-48.html

http://www.earthtechling.com/2010/07/chinese-zotye-electric-suv-comes-to-america/

I'd want a small electric SUV if the price were right, but I'm sure not going to buy a Chinese car. I'll wait for a japanese, Korean, or US company to start selling one before I even think about it.

I do have to say I have had great luck with Japanese quality vehicles. My dad bought a Korean car and had good luck with it.

I have to admit I really don't like the idea of buying a Chinese car, but I would definitely buy it before I would buy a 100% Mexican Ford Fusion.

Just on principal, even though I have some Mexican family members by marriage, and my girl friend is Chinese. As for jobs, the Chinese are now giving their own companies, Chinese companies, lots of money to move to the US and open factories.

That is giving jobs to US workers. GM moved off-shore and went global.

My biggest gripe and remaining issue, is that GM still won't back their vehicles with a Korean style or now Chinese style warranty. Why? Because they know they have not designed their vehicles to last 10-yrs and 100,000-miles.

My biggest gripe and remaining issue, is that GM still won't back their vehicles with a Korean style or now Chinese style warranty. Why? Because they know they have not designed their vehicles to last 10-yrs and 100,000-miles.

Vegas, you need to define your terms.. you mean bumper-to-bumper warranty?

GM does not really have to do that, their cars have a good reputation for quality and a fair value. The design goals are secret but I believe GM uses 10 years/150k miles as a life goal. The dealer relationship that GM has is different (better, GM covers the dealers work) than what Toyota, Hyundai/Kya and VW has (these companies sometimes will leave a dealer stuck with the repair cost.. thus the dealer will give you a run-around on occasion).

Hyundai/Kya had to offer that warranty due to a dismal reputation for quality, which has been fixed by now.. but I have heard from friends that it is hard to collect on the warranty.

Chinese companies WILL have to offer a 10 year warranty if they have any hope of success.. and good luck collecting on it. Best for chinese manufacturers is to associate themselves with known reputable brands in the US.

One thing I like about GM is that their designs are friendly to the mechanic and parts availability/cost is reasonable. Perhaps not the latest fancy stuff but that seems to be changing with the Enclave, Equinox and 2008 Malibu.

I have to say I had trouble collecting on several different manufacturers warranties including, Nissan, Honda & Toyota, and my brother-in-law, an attorney, had to resort to threat of law suit to collect on his Ford warranty.

Yes, dealers sometimes get stuck on parts, but a lot of the time there is a commission service writer who is forced to try to sell you a part (*To make money & to keep his job) that is not ready to be replaced. That is why I stopped going to dealers when it is not a warranty item.

Case in point my Nissan, Nissan of Henderson, NV said I needed front and back struts. I said great, put them on. Then I told them I have a factory warranty. Oh, they will only cover the fronts or United Nissan of Las Vegas said I needed front brakes, 15% left & rears with 25% left. I went to Brake Team where they said I had 50% front & 75% rear and left with no charge.

Dealers make money selling your parts & service you don't need to stay in business! The insurance companies know that and play hard ball to stay in business. They don't charge enough for the policy to keep paying for parts. It is just the name of the game!