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Desertstraw
04-28-2010, 10:52 AM
Plug-In Conversions Corporation

Question:
How does your Prius Conversion compare to the Chevrolet “Volt” after a plug-in charge is used up? Answer:
A PICC converted Prius will maintain higher mileage that a Chevy Volt after using up a plug-in charge. This is because the engine in a Prius is connected directly to the wheels - the engine in a Volt is connected only to a generator and indirectly to the wheels so it is less efficient.

uestion:
How much does it cost to convert my Prius to a PHEV? Answer:
Installed system cost is $13,500 for our PHEV-25 system (low-speed EV-only range of 25 miles per charge, freeway speed EV-only range of about 15 miles per charge). This includes our “Hybrid Energy Manager™” control system.

George S. Bower
04-28-2010, 12:37 PM
Desertstraw,
Are you considering doing this??

Desertstraw
04-28-2010, 03:10 PM
Desertstraw,
Are you considering doing this??
I can't I have a 2001 Prius.

George S. Bower
04-28-2010, 07:18 PM
I can't I have a 2001 Prius.

What about engineR??

Roy
04-30-2010, 05:53 AM
Plug-In Conversions Corporation

A PICC converted Prius will maintain higher mileage that a Chevy Volt after using up a plug-in charge. This is because the engine in a Prius is connected directly to the wheels - the engine in a Volt is connected only to a generator and indirectly to the wheels so it is less efficient.


False premise, in fact it is very competitive. I agree that the transmission in the Prius would be slightly more efficient than the generator/controller/electric motor on the Volt, but then the Volt has the advantage of running the generator at optimum rpm at all times, so this advantage may be canceled out.

The main difference in highway mileage will be air resistance, I believe the Volt is a larger car and will be at a slight disadvantage on this point, but until Volts are independently tested we won't really know which is better.

omnimoeish
04-30-2010, 11:13 AM
Supposedly the volt and Prius will get the same gas mileage when in engine mode which is 45-50. The difference between 45 and 50 MPG is negligible even over a year your talking like $20 worth of gas. For the price of a converted Prius the volt is worlds better.

FrayAdjacent
05-04-2010, 11:04 AM
Supposedly the volt and Prius will get the same gas mileage when in engine mode which is 45-50. The difference between 45 and 50 MPG is negligible even over a year your talking like $20 worth of gas. For the price of a converted Prius the volt is worlds better.

Concur. And I own a Prius.

George S. Bower
05-04-2010, 11:42 AM
Supposedly the volt and Prius will get the same gas mileage when in engine mode which is 45-50. The difference between 45 and 50 MPG is negligible even over a year your talking like $20 worth of gas. For the price of a converted Prius the volt is worlds better.

4 kwh Enginer kit= 3500$.

http://www.enginer.us/

hermperez
05-04-2010, 12:28 PM
The engineR kits should come down in cost as lipo cells get cheaper.. its a neat way to do the conversion, apparently painless.

Not sure I would want Thundersky cells in my car.

George S. Bower
05-04-2010, 01:48 PM
The engineR kits should come down in cost as lipo cells get cheaper.. its a neat way to do the conversion, apparently painless.

Not sure I would want Thundersky cells in my car.

I spent 2 days reading 70 pages of Priuschat on the system. You get what you pay for and this kit has some definite drawbacks. However, the latest version of the kit has been significantly improved. Battery charger has been made into a smart charger so you can't overcharge the cells and the DC-DC converter has improved cooling. I believe the balancers are still the same. The biggest problems for early adopters was getting all the cells equally balanced and failed converters. Apparently the company has been pretty good with customer support. The kit is made in China.

Don't know about the Mottcells they are using now.