: Circuit City to close remaining 567 stores ...
Jason M. Hendler 01-16-2009, 12:08 PM Circuit City to close remaining 567 stores:
Link (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5irmWZmMlki7isG4T9NmoHzSlAMJwD95OB3BG6)
No doubt, if we only had a national healthcare program and gays in the military, this would never have happened. :rolleyes:
darthvader420 01-16-2009, 01:13 PM So you're against a national health plan and gays in the military because a retailer went under in a massive recession? Doesn't make much sense to me, Jason.
omnimoeish 01-16-2009, 01:17 PM We have a Circuit City and Best Buy (that came 10 years later) on the same street. Best Buy always has better prices and better service. I don't know if even gays in the military would have solved this problem.
Jason M. Hendler 01-16-2009, 02:21 PM So you're against a national health plan and gays in the military because a retailer went under in a massive recession? Doesn't make much sense to me, Jason.
No one could possibly construe what I said to yield that statement.
For those with deeper perception, it means that now is the wrong time to be focusing on a national healthcare plan and gays in the military.
darthvader420 01-16-2009, 02:50 PM No one could possibly construe what I said to yield that statement.
For those with deeper perception, it means that now is the wrong time to be focusing on a national healthcare plan and gays in the military.
I completely disagree on the national healthcare front. Do you not care at all about the rising number of unemployed? A proper national health care plan would put the US on par with other industrialized countries and make a huge difference in millions of people's lives.
But don't you worry Jason, it looks like Mr. Obama isn't going to do that at all. All he's going to do is a half-hearted bandaid "reform" of the useless private insurance system in an attempt to make it somewhat cheaper and more accessible. How's that for progressive.
As for DADT: that's a very simple and long overdue reform. I don't get why you would even care about it.
Jason M. Hendler 01-16-2009, 03:00 PM As for DADT: that's a very simple and long overdue reform. I don't get why you would even care about it.
I don't care about the policy, just that Obama didn't tell anyone before the election that he was going to do that.
darthvader420 01-16-2009, 03:13 PM I don't care about the policy, just that Obama didn't tell anyone before the election that he was going to do that.
But he did say he would. It wasn't one of the main pillars of his campaign but it was mentioned. If you want to be critical of Obama this is a pretty strange way of doing it. Unless you have a "thing" about homosexuals, then it would make sense I guess.
umfug 01-16-2009, 04:34 PM National health care? What a joke. The "bailout" was the nail in the coffin. Mark my words. This is not going to end well.
$6 billion to weatherize "modest income homes."
-$6 billion to provide internet in "underserved" areas
-$6 billion for "higher education modernization."
-$20 billion in health information technology to "prevent medial mistakes."
-$20 billion to increase food stamp funding
-$87 billion to provide a "temporary" increase in Medicaid funding
-$300 million to provide rebates for people who purchase Energy Star products
-$600 million for the federal government to buy brand new energy efficient cars
-$400 million for state and local governments to buy brand new energy efficient cars
-$2.4 billion for carbon capture demonstration programs
-$350 million to research using energy efficient technology on military bases
-$300 million for grants and loans to state and local governments for projects that reduce diesel emissions, "benefiting public health and reducing global warming"
-$500 million for energy efficient manufacturing demonstration projects.
-$400 million to build major research facilities "that perform cutting edge science"
-$1.5 billion for expanding "good jobs in biomedical research"
-$400 million "to put more scientists to work doing climate change research"
-$600 million for satellite development and acquisitions, including climate sensors and climate modeling.
-$250 million "to address long-term economic distress in urban industrial cores and rural areas distributed based on need and ability to create jobs and attract private investment."
-$650 million to continue the coupon program to enable American households to convert from analog television transmission to digital transmission.
-$300 million for the National Wildlife Refuges and National Fish Hatcheries
-$50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts
-$400 million for "ready-to-go habitat restoration projects"
-$2 billion to provide child care services for an additional 300,000 children in low-income families while their parents go to work.
-$120 million to provide subsidized community service jobs to an additional 24,000 low-income older Americans
-$1.5 billion to help local communities build and rehabilitate low-income housing using green technologies.
-$500 million to rehabilitate and improve energy efficiency at some of the over 42,000 housing units maintained by Native American housing programs
-$10 million for "rural, high-need areas to undertake projects using sustainable and energy-efficient building and rehabilitation practices"
omnimoeish 01-16-2009, 05:15 PM I got the joke. Last time a President got into office with big promises to change things (Clinton), he got so sidetracked by gays in the military, it set our country back 15 years in health care reform (or more, we'll see). Obama's plan is not going to do jack about health care.
Bush didn't have any big plans so he decided to take up where his dad left off.
darthvader420 01-16-2009, 06:01 PM I got the joke. Last time a President got into office with big promises to change things (Clinton), he got so sidetracked by gays in the military, it set our country back 15 years in health care reform (or more, we'll see). Obama's plan is not going to do jack about health care.
Bush didn't have any big plans so he decided to take up where his dad left off.
Congratulations for making the most accurate post in this thread so far. Can't wait for everyone to go back to arguing against national healthcare because they suddenly care about the deficit.
misslexi 01-16-2009, 06:11 PM .....
-$1.5 billion to help local communities build and rehabilitate low-income housing using green technologies.
-$500 million to rehabilitate and improve energy efficiency at some of the over 42,000 housing units maintained by Native American housing programs
-$10 million for "rural, high-need areas to undertake projects using sustainable and energy-efficient building and rehabilitation practices"
Just to update the list as of this afternoon...scary when they haven't even floated a number yet...
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NEWS ALERT
from The Wall Street Journal
Jan. 16, 2009
The U.S. government, recognizing that the banking crisis is larger than originally thought, is laying the groundwork for a second phase of its rescue attempt with plans to tackle the toxic assets gumming up the system.
Officials at the Treasury, Federal Reserve and Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., in consultation with the incoming Obama administration, are discussing a range of options, according to government and transition officials. One plan would create a government bank that would buy up bad assets. Another would standardize efforts to have the government guarantee banks' assets against further losses.
darthvader420 01-16-2009, 08:12 PM Yeah, the banks have been hiding just how much they're holding in these bad assets. The bailouts have barely made a dent.
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