: Canada & Ontario contribute to auto "bailout"



DocM
12-20-2008, 07:08 PM
Link... (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a423KVNUfxXY&refer=worldwide)


Canada, Ontario to Give GM, Chrysler C$4 Billion Aid (Update2)

By Hugo Miller and Reg Curren

Dec. 20 (Bloomberg) -- General Motors Corp. and Chrysler LLC will get C$4 billion ($3.3 billion) in government loans from Canada and the province of Ontario, a day after the U.S. agreed to aid to keep the two automakers operating.

General Motors’ Canadian unit will receive C$3 billion while Chrysler is set to get C$1 billion, the two governments said today. Borrowers must accept limits on executive compensation and also report “material transactions in excess of C$125 million or more,” the two governments said in a joint statement.

“This is a huge problem that faces the Ontario community and the Canadian economy by extension,” Prime Minister Stephen Harper said at a press conference in downtown Toronto today.

Canada’s aid builds on the $13.4 billion in U.S. emergency loans announced by President George W. Bush. Canadian Industry Minister Tony Clement on Dec. 12 pledged to offer GM, Chrysler and Ford Motor Co.’s Canadian units federal and provincial aid “proportional” to the their contribution to North American production, which is about 20 percent.

“We will not allow catastrophic collapse” of the industry, Harper said. “But the auto companies have to change the way they do their business in a very serious way.”

The aid package is “not a blank check” and Canadian taxpayers expect the money to be used to renew the industry and involve all stakeholders in that process, Harper said.

Ontario’s Contribution

Ontario will contribute C$1.3 billion to the package and the Canadian government C$2.7 billion, Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty said at the same news conference.

“This is about 400,000 jobs and 400,000 families,” said McGuinty. “There’s a lot at risk.”

The Canadian Auto Workers union lauded the package and pledged to continue working with the companies and governments to ensure the industry’s survival in Canada, Ken Lewenza, president of the union said.

“The announcement today was important for our industry, our workers and for all citizens of Canada,” said Lewenza. “There are 400,000 jobs at stake here.”

He declined to speculate on whether his membership will have to take wage-and-benefit cuts as part of the package.

U.S. Package

The U.S. package requires companies to have pay and work rules in place by the end of 2009 that make them competitive with those of overseas automakers with plants in the U.S.

GM had asked for C$800 million ($641 million) in aid from Canada by month’s end and an additional C$1.6 billion line of credit through the second quarter.

GM will receive C$800 million now and on Jan. 30 another C$1.2 billion and further C$1 billion on Feb. 27. Chrysler gets C$400 million immediately with another C$400 million at the end of January and the balance in February.

The industry will have to restructure and will probably end up being smaller, said Harper.

“This will be a difficult restructuring,” said McGuinty.

Ford’s Canadian unit had asked for access to as much as C$2 billion in “standby” credit, to be used if the current economic crisis worsens. Chrysler LLC didn’t say how much it was seeking.

omnimoeish
12-21-2008, 09:16 PM
Way to be a team player Canada. I guess they can afford a few billion since they are saving over a trillion dollars a year by not spending a red dime on military and letting the US do all the heavy lifting.

crazy_awper
12-22-2008, 01:29 AM
Good luck to you guy,Wish you can success.

calgaryvolt
12-22-2008, 10:42 AM
Way to be a team player Canada. I guess they can afford a few billion since they are saving over a trillion dollars a year by not spending a red dime on military and letting the US do all the heavy lifting.

We are lovers and not fighters!

Altazi
12-22-2008, 01:57 PM
Canada isn't in too many peoples' targets, so I'm not sure why they'd need a huge military anyway.

korzym
01-01-2009, 04:39 PM
Canada isn't in too many peoples' targets, so I'm not sure why they'd need a huge military anyway.
Land, oil, resources, etc...

Altazi
01-01-2009, 04:43 PM
Land, oil, resources, etc...

Oh, of course. I agree - having a huge military does require a lot of land, oil, and resources . . . ;)

darthvader420
01-02-2009, 04:43 AM
Land, oil, resources, etc...

Stephen Harper is getting all pent up over the coming Canadian-Russian-Northern European conflict over oil and gas reserves in the melting arctic. Increased military spending is on his agenda, whether it ever materializes or not.

p.s. Canada's population is one tenth of America's and Canada doesn't usually start massive wars overseas. The Canadians did a lot of heavy lifting in both world wars, the last time they've had a reason to fully join in a large conflict. In decades past the Canadians were on the forefront of peacekeeping efforts, which is in fact a Canadian invention. They haven't really done anything lately though =I. Not to defend all of Canadian foreign policy or anything, but the jabs in this thread aren't really valid.

Good story about Canada's financial situation: a large part of the debate right now is about the coming deficit. Imagine that! There was a hefty surplus that the Conservatives threw away at corporate tax cuts while public spending stagnated and now things are going into the red. Kind of sounds familiar somehow. What's funny is that deficit spending is even a political issue in Canada when you look at what's happening south of the border. How quaint.

omnimoeish
01-04-2009, 03:41 AM
Oh, of course. I agree - having a huge military does require a lot of land, oil, and resources . . . ;)

That's for dang sure, think about how much farm land it takes to produce food to bring income into our country to pay for that military. Farming is one of our main exports left. Think about how much oil we burn on all those aircraft carriers et al, and resources...as I stated above...around $1 trillion a year, plus the American lives.

The funny thing about needing a military is that it's a self fulfilling prophecy. We bulk up our military in the middle east (ie Israel), the rest of the middle east gets ticked off at that and decides to kill a bunch of Americans in embassies, World Trade Centers etc., so we spend more on the military and decide to build more military bases in the middle east, this time in Iraq, which ticks off Iran and Pakistan...so what's Obama planning on doing for the next 8 years? Building up more troops in Pakistan, oh won't that be fun!! Things just get better and better. Meanwhile Asian technology and production is tearing our corporations (who are burdened with funding these charades) a new one.

Most of our military funding is going to foreign military bases, Guam, Israel, Okinawa etc. etc, anyone who doesn't realize we are stuck in the same cycle as so many who have fallen before us (history is littered with imperialistic countries that couldn't sustain it economically and politically) needs to look around a little bit. Homeland security is doing anything but protecting our homeland. We are stripping down our domestic military bases actually.