Get a globe.

Find the state of Connecticut.

Imagine a cube with sides the length of that state.

If it were filled with oil, how long would it last at today's rate of use?

That sounds like an awful lot of oil actually :confused: Where'd you get that from?

And how much of this oil can be economically extracted with today's technology?

It's almost impossible to have a rational discussion with someone who thinks about oil only in terms of how much reserves we have. They simply do not understand about things like EROI (Energy Return on Investment), how the rate of oil flow from a well follows a bell curve, sweet crude vs. tar sands, the ability of our oil industry to increase petroleum supplies enough to match demand, the amount of investments that are needed just to stay even, the aging of drilling rigs, how low oil prices reduce needed investments, geopolitical considerations, the petrol dollar, etc.

THEY JUST CAN'T UNDERSTAND AND DON'T WANT TO LEARN

It doesn't matter if they are shown that a 10,000 ft deep well was filled with a billion barrels of tar-like crude and that it was located in the Artic circle. They will simply hear the billion barrels and go back to sleep. It's shocking that people don't get the most obvious reality - if oil was plentiful and just as easy and cheap to get, why do we need tar sands, super deep drilling rigs, extreme extraction technology to get our oil? Every year they have to drill deeper and use more dramatic extraction technology just to keep up. They just don't get it. They won't get it even after it kicks them in the side of the head.

It's like trying to disprove religion using science. Can't be done because people's beliefs are so ingrained. It doesn't matter that some things make no logical sense or don't follow any amount of statistical analysis or even the laws of physics. They just can't understand. Even if in 30 years the world has stopped burning fossil fuels these people will still think it's just a conspiracy and that the oil is just there being wasted. Got to love human nature! ;)

It doesn't matter if they are shown that a 10,000 ft deep well was filled with a billion barrels of tar-like crude and that it was located in the Artic circle. They will simply hear the billion barrels and go back to sleep. It's shocking that people don't get the most obvious reality - if oil was plentiful and just as easy and cheap to get, why do we need tar sands, super deep drilling rigs, extreme extraction technology to get our oil? Every year they have to drill deeper and use more dramatic extraction technology just to keep up. They just don't get it. They won't get it even after it kicks them in the side of the head.

Exactly, It's all about flow rates. And they're only going down. With credit drying up, lots of projects are going on the back burner, so production in a few years will drop even more quickly. Just between you and me Texas, I think the kicking has already started, most people just don't realise it yet.

The reserves don't include the tar sands in Alberta. There are 170 billion barrels there, in addition to no. 1, the 260+ billion barrels in Saudi Arabia.

I wonder why nobody has actually done it yet. I am not saying that is what the reserves are, or even the resource base. I just want people to do it. You have to get a globe though. The effect doesn't work without one.

"It doesn't matter if they are shown that a 10,000 ft deep well was filled with a billion barrels of tar-like crude and that it was located in the Artic circle. They will simply hear the billion barrels and go back to sleep. It's shocking that people don't get the most obvious reality - if oil was plentiful and just as easy and cheap to get, why do we need tar sands, super deep drilling rigs, extreme extraction technology to get our oil? Every year they have to drill deeper and use more dramatic extraction technology just to keep up. They just don't get it. They won't get it even after it kicks them in the side of the head."


Texas refuses to admit that some people don't care about oil. If you say you don't care about oil, his response is:

"Yes you do! And you're an idiot if you don't see the writing on the wall, get a clue, and get with the program"

But, I said I don't care about oil.

"You just don't get it do you, the world is going to hell on a hydrocarbon and you're leading the charge, you oil slurping moron."


See, anybody can be Texas.

"It doesn't matter if they are shown that a 10,000 ft deep well was filled with a billion barrels of tar-like crude and that it was located in the Artic circle. They will simply hear the billion barrels and go back to sleep. It's shocking that people don't get the most obvious reality - if oil was plentiful and just as easy and cheap to get, why do we need tar sands, super deep drilling rigs, extreme extraction technology to get our oil? Every year they have to drill deeper and use more dramatic extraction technology just to keep up. They just don't get it. They won't get it even after it kicks them in the side of the head."


Texas refuses to admit that some people don't care about oil. If you say you don't care about oil, his response is:

"Yes you do! And you're an idiot if you don't see the writing on the wall, get a clue, and get with the program"

But, I said I don't care about oil.

"You just don't get it do you, the world is going to hell on a hydrocarbon and you're leading the charge, you oil slurping moron."


See, anybody can be Texas.





Well, free loving tree huggers living in the deep woods don't care about oil either. I just figured that if you are hanging around this forum and continuously posting about oil and the Volt then you might be interested in what makes the Volt special. Maybe you just like the cool design. Who knows. Oh, my mother doesn't care about oil either. So what's your point? I say if you don't care, don't write about it like you know what you're talking about. Does that make sense? I don't really care about women's fashion so I don't hang out at women's fashion forums. Simple! Problem solved. I'm glad that I don' have to listen to your "wisdom" on oil anymore.

LOL

When I say I do not care about oil, I mean I'm not an apologist for the oil companies. I am on record saying I think we need to reduce our dependence on oil. It is why I support the Volt. Texas knows this. But he goes on, endlessly spouting BS and explaining how people are wrong for things they have not even said. The question is, why?

He says: I "might be interested in what makes the Volt special."

I am fully aware of what makes the Volt special. I'm pretty sure I was here (spring 2007) before he was. I had been reading about energy for nine months before that, and had come to the conclusion that the EREV concept, formerly known as series-hybrid, was the best way to reduce dependence on oil.

Texas seems to think I want to increase oil use. Perhaps he can link to a post of mine which led him to that conclusion.