Ford / PML F-150 EV:

Link (http://www.evworld.com/news.cfm?newsid=19673)

Gotta luv the in-wheel motors ...

This is all I'm waiting for!

NPNS (and all that bologna!):D

Very interesting, indeed. I like the in-wheel motors. Now if they can only put on full-sized bed . . .

40kwh battery? Four motors? Sounds like you can go about 10 miles between charges. Notice the article doesn't mention range or speed of operation. Please Ford, tell me that in the financially strapped situation you are in, that you didn't spend more than the price of an F-150 on this concept!! This is a great concept in search of a better battery.

Ford, seriously, stay on target and work towards next generation diesel engines. This is the obvious short term solution to greater truck efficiency. If you accomplish this, you will completely dominate the truck, van and SUV market.

40kwh battery? Four motors? Sounds like you can go about 10 miles between charges. Notice the article doesn't mention range or speed of operation. Please Ford, tell me that in the financially strapped situation you are in, that you didn't spend more than the price of an F-150 on this concept!! This is a great concept in search of a better battery.

Ford, seriously, stay on target and work towards next generation diesel engines. This is the obvious short term solution to greater truck efficiency. If you accomplish this, you will completely dominate the truck, van and SUV market.

If this has a 40kWh battery, assuming it can go about 4 miles per kWh (about 60% of the Volt's distance per kWh), this thing should be able to go about 160 miles. But I agree, wasting money on designs that everyone knows will never be marketable is just moronic Ford.

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If that 40 kWh (EV World editors, don't forget that you need a time variable to denote energy) is a quick-charge one then I just found my next EV. I love this truck and PML Flightlink has the coolest technology. In-hub motors should be amazing after a few more years of development.

Why are you posters saying it will only 10 miles per charge? It should get a couple of hundred miles (if driven nicely). The volt has a 16 kWh battery pack and gets 40 miles. Don't forget that the Volt’s battery pack will only use a 8 kWh band. An EV is different in that it will use a much larger band. Even past 80%.

Is this concept truck functioning? I would love to see the data they get. It will be extremely expensive due to the cost of those beautiful motors and the lithium-ion battery but she sure is puurty.

If it has over 150 HP per wheel (600 HP) and over 150 foot pounds of torque per wheel (at least 600), this thing would tear up any exotic car in a quarter mile.

If it has over 150 HP per wheel (600 HP) and over 150 foot pounds of torque per wheel (at least 600), this thing would tear up any exotic car in a quarter mile.



Taking into account that it has the shape and weight of a brick, yes. I think I would hold it's own when matched with many sports cars. That pure and constant acceleration you get from those pancake motors will be something indeed.

If this recession ever turns around you'll be seeing wealthy construction contractor owners shelling out their cash for these things to show off to the guys. This thing makes excessively large trucks kinda cool to me for once.

Why are you posters saying it will only 10 miles per charge? It should get a couple of hundred miles (if driven nicely). The volt has a 16 kWh battery pack and gets 40 miles.

OK, maybe a bit more than 10 miles, but the Volt has a 16kwh battery and about a 150hp motor and goes 40 miles. The Ford concept has 4 150hp motors, so it would seem that it would need a four times bigger 64kwh battery just to get the same 40 miles. Sure, the Volt's battery quits at 30% SOC, and this one might go deeper, but still, let's say they run it down to 10% giving another 20% of battery capacity to work with, that's another 8 miles range for the Volt. Since the Ford only has 63% of the capacity the Volt does, it should go about 25 miles plus an extra 5 miles for the lower SOC, so about 30 miles.

Then there is the issue of driving it nicely. You cannot find a contractor that will drive a truck nicely. Can't be done. Nope. No way. This creature does not exist.

Of course all these goofy numbers are napkin numbers and really mean nothing without having a whole host of data that would be needed to do an actual calculation. So maybe the numbers go up, maybe they don't. It's all pointless anyhow. Ford really needs to just focus on new diesel technology for trucks and that's it. In these dark hours they don't need PR, they need results.

It's not like all four motors will be maxed out 100% of the time, so I would expect this to get decent range on the highway. But you're right about the contractors: they would drive this thing as hard as they could on the worksite and drain the batteries in no time.