I am sure the GM-Volt engineers are working hard to maximize the miles per Kilovolt. They will be setting the standard. However for the folks that have built there own electric vehicle, how many miles per Kilovolt do you get? I would hope there would be a little display on the Volt indicating what the current mpk is.

Red HHR

I dont think volts is the best measurement. Miles Per Watt/h would be good. I'm pretty sure nothing in the car will be rated at kilovolts(unless they put in a quick charger and dont want to use arm thick cables).

Guess I was seduced by the Volt

Not Watt, but Watt*hr, or kWhr - you want to know how far you went for the amount of energy drawn from your charger, not amount of energy actually expended. This is important, because there are losses in charging and discharging, so you want to know how much energy you are pulling from the grid.

The measure would probably end up being all metric, like km/kWhr, which could probably be reduced further, since a Watt is a Newton meter per second.

m divided by (Nm per second times 3600 seconds)
One over 3,600 Nm, or just scaled to (Nm)^-1

Eh, they will probably just keep it km/kWhr.

Kilometers? Oh my lets keep it American, oh yes the hours are assumed. We could use all sorts of fancy terminology for energy. I weld with lasers at work so I know a few of the terms.

After dinner I switched the electronic display in the Cadillac to Kilometers per hour whilst everyone was asleep. My wife figured it out when she woke up. If we were really going 110 we would be passing everybody.

Red HHR

For economic comparisons, they may invert it to kWhr / km, which people would then just multiply by their electric rate, which is anywhere from 5.08 cents in West Virginia to 20.55 cents in Hawaii.

You might want to bookmark this page:

http://www.think-energy.net/electricitycosts.htm

Electricity is about 15 cents a kWhr (Kilowatt hour) here. I really do not know what a Volt

I just posted a big write-up on electric tariffs for Time of Use. Costs per kWh were mentioned above, so those of you that dont know much about time of use (and time of use with demand), see:
http://www.gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=158

I just posted a big write-up on electric tariffs for Time of Use. Costs per kWh were mentioned above, so those of you that dont know much about time of use (and time of use with demand), see:
http://www.gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=158

Penna doesn't even HAVE time of use rates. Then again we only recently got electricity...

Are you talking about Penn power and light? If so, it appears they do. They call it 'Time of Day'. Their Rider is one of the most complicated and confusing riders I have seen. See this link, then go to PDF page 89. They start defining a lot of the rates there.

http://www.pplelectric.com/NR/rdonlyres/08B5FE9A-29B1-4804-9E5E-16AFD4414EC2/0/master_r12.pdf

Are you talking about Penn power and light? If so, it appears they do. They call it 'Time of Day'. Their Rider is one of the most complicated and confusing riders I have seen. See this link, then go to PDF page 89. They start defining a lot of the rates their.

http://www.pplelectric.com/NR/rdonlyres/08B5FE9A-29B1-4804-9E5E-16AFD4414EC2/0/master_r12.pdf

Thanks! I'll check it out immediately.
Be well

cool. Make sure you find out how much it costs per kWh on and off peak for their time of day plan, then what it costs on the time of day plan with demand factor (as well as the demand factor rates for summer and winter). Post them in the general forum thread that I started.

I read it and, frankly, can't decipher it. It repeatedly (at the beginning of each section) says that no applications will be accepted after 1/1/2000, but does go on to describe the impending rate hikes and time of day rates. I'll need to call them and try to talk to a human bean (SIC).

Red HHR,

Oh No! I hate to point this out, but being someone in the "business", The US is metric and has been since 1920. Americans just don't know it. :)

The non-SI or inch units are only used in small hamlets and villages in two countries on earth, United States and Myanmar. Only one of these has a functioning government! :)

Guess which one!

Hi Metrology,

You are correct, I live in a small hamlet with a rather dysfunctional government! We have rutted trails and use arcane terms. You should have seen the reaction to the HHR. :)

Red HHR