Aug 20

Volt price cut due also to Internet shopping trends; GM gets new global powertrain chief

 

Web trends were part of why GM reduced the 2014 Volt’s price.

And, GM said yesterday, it will see new talent at the helm of its world-wide powertrain development operations, as well …

General Motors’ first major reduction of the Chevy Volt’s price by $5,000 for the 2014 model year has been attributed to incremental reduction in some production costs and the need to stay competitive, but there were other nuances involved as well.

According to a Wards Auto report yesterday, GM says online consumer shopping habits also drove the decision.

 

“The market dynamics are changing, there are savings [we] have identified and then there are consumer habits at some of the shopping Web sites,” General Motors Vice President Chris Perry told Wards. “Their cutoff has always been $35,000 and below, and we were always above that.”

Essentially, many shoppers were missing the 2013 Volt in searches because it had a starting MSRP of $39,995.

This is true despite the fact that last year’s Volt might have met their price criteria considering dealer discounts, a $7,500 federal and possible state subsidies. Because of shoppers’ random criteria, the car was as good as invisible to those with sites set on a $35,000 maximum.

So, GM was further coaxed to lop off the top $5,000 which it had essentially been all but doing in some cases already.

Perry however would not divulge what the 2014 Volt’s price cut did to GM’s profit margins, and focused instead on key benefits for the car which the EPA says goes 38 miles on electricity alone, and then seamlessly continues with a 1.4-liter gasoline generator.

“It has always been about showing [consumers] the technology we can bring to the market,” he said to Wards. “That car, in my mind, is still the most technically advanced in the industry with its E-REV technology.”

And, if consumers want to wait another year, GM expects the 2015 Volt will sell for even less.

How much less, is up in the air however. Perry did not say, nor did he say whether a redesign for the so-called “gen 2” Volt would take place that year.

More likely, it may be 2016 according to reports, but this too is not certain for a car slowly but surely gaining acceptance in the general marketplace.

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GM Names Steve Kiefer As Vice President Global Powertrain

 

Yesterday General Motors announced that Delphi executive Steve Kiefer will lead its global powertrain operations effective Sept. 1.

The appointment of Kiefer, 50, follows the ousting of Sam Winegarden, GM’s vice president for global engine engineering in July over an emissions-fixing scandal in the Indian market.

 

Since 2011 Kiefer has held the role of senior vice president and president of Delphi’s Powertrain Systems. During his career spanning back to the early 1980s, he has served in engineering and leadership roles over at both GM and Delphi and the company says he brings extensive engine development expertise and knowledge of the global auto business.

“As GM continues to bring new vehicle engine and drivetrain technologies and innovations to the marketplace, Steve’s customer perspective, technical expertise and proven leadership will further bolster our global powertrain team,” said Mary Barra, executive vice president, Global Product Development & Global Purchasing and Supply Chain.

Steve Kiefer.
Steve Kiefer.

Kiefer will report to Barra and Jim Lanzon, vice president Powertrain Global Transmissions, will continue to lead the company’s transmission development and engineering activities, reporting to Kiefer.

“The collective expertise and experience of Jim and Steve brings a new dynamic to the Powertrain team. Together they will lead the global team and work to strengthen GM’s position as an industry leader in powertrain technology.” Barra said.

GM’s new global powertrain chief has a bachelor’s degree in mechanical engineering from Michigan State University, and this included engineering studies at RWTH Aachen University in Germany. He holds a master’s degree in business administration from the University of Michigan.

Kiefer will be based at GM’s Powertrain Headquarters in Pontiac and GM notes that as a Michigan native, he will play an active role representing GM in Detroit-area philanthropic and civic activities.

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    Aug 20th, 2013 (6:48 am)

    Amazing how complicated the cars are these days and what it takes to bring new car design to the market and then try their best to meet the expectations of the consumers. I am surprised by the amount of $$ investment needed in host of technologies by the car manufacturers, resources required to put the design together and then build the car so all the parts work and meet the expectations of the buyer.

    This site has many engineers who have explained some of the intricacies of how cars work and what level of sophistication needed to put a product in the market. Alas, the stealerships make the buying expeirence so unpleasant.

    Nonetheless, many thanks to a very educated class of members on this site, I have learned a lot about cars especially Volt and Spark and what it took to bring these EV design to the market. Go Volt, Spark and yes GM.


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (8:29 am)

    I wonder if Steve roots for MSU or UofM :)

    GM probably shouldn’t say things like the 2015 will be cheaper than the 2014.


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (8:32 am)

    “This is true despite the fact that last year’s Volt might have met their price criteria considering dealer discounts, a $7,500 federal and possible state subsidies. Because of shoppers’ random criteria, the car was as good as invisible to those with sites set on a $35,000 maximum.”

    I’m so glad someone made that obvious observation and it was acted upon by GM.

    NPNS!
    Volt#671


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (8:44 am)

    This looks like an honest assessment with no BS excuse like other auto makers would have. “And, if consumers want to wait another year, GM expects the 2015 Volt will sell for even less.” It took guts to say this and in the end, it makes GM look like they are genuinely interested in what best for the consumers. Thanks GM for givings us the real scoop!


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (8:51 am)

    pat,

    l agree wholeheartedly..+1
    Since l found this site pretty well in it’s beginning l am addicted……Jeff is doing a super great job in Lyle’s wake and l cannot stay away, so many intelligent and knowledgeable people gathered in one place.
    Sort of a MENSA for EV information and discussion. The give and take is stimulating and the arguments are mostly very civil.
    Kudos to all you guys…you make my day…every day….
    Thanx again….
    haroldC


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (8:58 am)

    Perception is key, and many will come full circle, back to the Volt, as BMW’s EREV and soon hopefully others come to market.

    It’s more than input costs and price. Hybrid buyers get to work with single-variable “mpg”, and even then I bet most don’t do much math before its “buy Toyota”. I bet the majority of future EREV buyers, especially, will buy because they too are “told” it’s their best option. Forget the multiple variables, MPGe, kwh, etc, that make it a slam dunk. The switch will accelerate as the powertrain’s niche (daily use, maybe urban miles) develops.

    I predict the i3 will be compared to the Volt A LOT, and it will end well for all.


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (9:15 am)

    I don’t think we will have to wait for gen 2.0 to see some MAJOR changes in the Volt.

    1. Volt will get GM’s recently announced new advanced 3 cyl RE prior to gen 2

    http://gmauthority.com/blog/2013/08/opel-announces-all-new-3-cylinder-turbo-engine-and-six-speed-transmission-for-adam/

    2. GM will increase AER by as much as 20% simply by increasing DOD of the Battery

    http://gm-volt.com/2013/08/02/spark-ev-versus-volt-battery/

    3. GM will further reduce costs by implementing the Sparks simplified TMS

    http://gm-volt.com/2013/08/02/spark-ev-versus-volt-battery/


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (9:33 am)

    I wonder how many hits Tesla gets on those searches. No wonder it can’t sell any cars! Seems like a completely lame excuse from marketing to me. If marketing had started with $32,995 with an asterik for “after tax credit” then this wouldn’t have been a problem. The fact is that GM marketing is designed for incremental model changes and can’t deal with the truly new and different.

    kdawg: GM probably shouldn’t say things like the 2015 will be cheaper than the 2014.

    Ya think?

    George S. Bower: I don’t think we will have to wait for gen 2.0 to see some MAJOR changes in the Volt.

    Love the dream George!


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (10:49 am)

    I think one of the takeaways I get from this is that you don’t want to shop for a 2014 too early. For example, look at the financing option GM currently lists for the 2014 Volt on the Chevy website: “14.5% APR for Well-Qualified Buyers”. Are they completely frickin’ kidding? 14.5% should be for people with the worst credit that can be financed. My local credit union is offering 1.85% for up to 72 months with 90 days to the first payment.

    Assuming Volt gen-2 will be 2016MY, hopefully better incentives on 2014s will appear by December or early 2015, when I’ll be in the market to replace my 2011. If the 2015 is going to be even cheaper, they may have to start giving rebates to bring the transaction prices closer to the next model year, just like they did for 2013. Otherwise you create some really P.O.’d customers.

    Also, if there’s strong indication the 2015MY will be Volt gen-2, I might just wait to buy anything and drive my 2005 GMC XUV in the meantime. Yes it burns lots of gasoline, but I don’t want to be stuck “upside down” for a few years with last-decade technology if I can avoid it (at least the GMC is paid for.) This is why GM really screwed the pooch by making 2014 a carry-over year for Volt. Otherwise loyal 3-year lessees like myself just might defect out of boredom. One way they could rescue the situation is by providing strong loyalty incentives. However, GM seems historically more likely to offer conquest incentives than loyalty incentives, something I find to be insane.


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (11:04 am)

    volt11: This is why GM really screwed the pooch by making 2014 a carry-over year for Volt. Otherwise loyal 3-year lessees like myself just might defect out of boredom.

    It’s true that attention deficit disorder seems to afflict a lot of people today, but expecting GM to produce a new generation every three years is insane. The generations of Toyota’s Prius have each lasted 6 years, and I haven’t heard any complaints about their slow development. GM fast-tracked the development of the gen 1 Volt, a car unlike anything ever built before, and they are hinting at gen 2 by 2016. If that means the 2016 model year, it is 5 years for gen 1, a rate that is faster than others in the car industry, but people are still complaining about how slow they are.


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (11:41 am)

    I would think a 5th model for Gen 1 will be it. Many are talking about 7 model years before gen 2.0, sounds insane….

    MrEnergyCzar


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (11:48 am)

    As long as they keep making improvements every year, it’s still a win for the buyer. Especially if the price keeps coming down.


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (11:48 am)

    DonC: Love the dream George!

    #8

    Yeah, really, LOL.

    +1

    As the great Chick Hearn was so fond of saying, “It’ll count if it goes!”


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (11:50 am)

    volt11: However, GM seems historically more likely to offer conquest incentives than loyalty incentives, something I find to be insane.

    #9

    I’m totally with you there. +1

    A slap in the face to loyal customers every time they do it IMHO.


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (11:52 am)

    kdawg:
    As long as they keep making improvements every year, it’s still a win for the buyer.Especially if the price keeps coming down.

    #12

    I am entirely to your way of thinking. +1

    If my Volt finally wears out I MAY be looking at Gen 3, LOL. That’s IF I live that long.


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (11:56 am)

    volt11: Also, if there’s strong indication the 2015MY will be Volt gen-2 …

    GM’s CEO indicated that Volt gen-2 won’t appear until model year 2016 or later.
    http://www.hybridcars.com/gm-ceo-akerson-hints-at-20-percent-more-electric-range-for-next-gen-chevy-volt/
    “Regarding the gen-2 range increase, Akerson was asked by Bloomberg if the 2014 would get more range. Akerson predictably answered no given we know the specs are the same as for 2013, but he then tipped his hand by initially saying a 20 percent range increase could be in “3-4” years, but finished his quote talking about only a “couple” of years until this is a reality. “

    They’re already delivering 2014 Volts, so a “couple” of years would be the model year 2016 at the earliest.


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (11:58 am)

    All that has to be done is fix unfair trade… then GM could not build enough Volts.
    In all but the US the Volt sells for twice the price…. The Volt in Japan Germany Korea etc. would sell out instantly at $35,000…
    Going from $80,000 to $35,000 in Germany Japan and the UK even without any other incentive would be a total change with sales skyrocketing.


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (11:59 am)

    Rolex Monterey Motorsports Reunion report:

    I was gridded 6th in the 1955 Corvette. I was running 4th and dreaming of challenging for 3rd when the engine blew up.

    DISASTER!

    The 1917 Chevy finished 7th overall and first in class. We won the Rolex watch for best overall performance and presentation in the “prewar” classes. This is a result beyond my widest dreams, and any reasonable expectations in the face of the literally multi-million dollar cars involved. I am almost embarrassed, but only almost, LOL.

    PRICELESS!

    Talk about the thrill of victory and the agony of defeat! And all in one weekend.


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (11:59 am)

    Steve-o: It’s true that attention deficit disorder seems to afflict a lot of people today, but expecting GM to produce a new generation every three years is insane.

    Indeed it would be, but I’m not insane. What GM is entirely capable of doing quickly, however, is a mid-cycle refresh. Look at the 2014 LaCrosse for example. Some nice changes to the front and rear ends, and a greatly improved interior (on an already nice interior) with new dash, center console, and color options. It also got new options like adaptive cruise control. If I were a happy LaCrosse owner, I’d feel good about coming out of a 2011 and getting a 2014 because the car has been very nicely freshened. Not so the Volt, and that’s where they went wrong. (And yes I know there have been some running changes, many of which just made the car cheaper and not better, and some seemed to trade some good new stuff, like Pandora, for losing old stuff like the HDD.)

    For one specific example, the Volt could desperately use a heated steering wheel option, given its marginal heater performance in very cold climates. We customers have mentioned it over and over and over on the forums. Heated rear seats would be a big plus as well. Both of these are available on the Nissan Leaf. Many of us want adaptive cruise like the LaCrosse got, and ALL of these wish-list items will be available on the Volt’s glamorous sister car, the ELR. We got none of that on the Volt for 2014. That’s just neglect, I don’t care how you spin it.


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (12:01 pm)

    Noel Park: If my Volt finally wears out I MAY be looking at Gen 3, LOL.

    I’m still waiting for the MPV5. We have a 100 pound dog. He doesn’t fit in our Volt, so we use our 2007 Honda CRV for that. When that dies, hopefully GM will be shipping the MPV5. If not, I guess we’ll buy a Prius V or a C-MAX.


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (12:03 pm)

    In a world of constantly changing technology, sooner or later you have to take the plunge.

    Are the costs and benefits of the current model compelling enough for many more drivers?

    I say they are.


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (12:10 pm)

    DonC:

    Love the dream George!

    See how positive I can be! :)

    Actually though I wouldn’t be surprised if we got the new RE and a somewhat increased DOD before gen 2.

    Why let that nice new 3 banger sit on the shelf that long. …..

    and the DOD is a no brainer also. Me thinks they find out that they have tons of life margin in the current Volt battery.


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (12:16 pm)

    Noel Park:

    Rolex Monterey Motorsports Reunion report:

    Way to go Noel.
    Frickin’ outstanding!

    Wasn’t that the first year for the V8 (that you blew up)?

    Now I know why you were absent from this blog for a while.


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (12:18 pm)

    Like George says, we have to stop focusing on “Gen 2″, and keep thinking “drivetrain”. The new Impala trunk has a canyon of space, bigger than any sedan I’ve ever owned. Hmmm. The new Corvette feeds GM’s expanding reputaion for delivering the best modal efficiency, with over 400 horse power and torque, and at a class crushing 29hwy. Hmmm. Why don’t they put the Spark’s usable kwh (17.3) in the Impala, or get ~40+ AER, add a PHEV mode for faster acceleration, and begin to go after Tesla’s big void? They’re starting with a beautiful, well-rated shell.

    The giant sucking sound isn’t Volt 2, or 50 AER. It’s the vacuum to be filled by the first manufacturer delivering a full/midsize car, that hits the EREV sweet spot. My young kids can’t fit in the back of the Volt, and 80 grand is too rich for a vehicle I plan to drive to death! At $300-400/kwh, with the $7,500 rebate, the net price on an Impala EREV should also be <35k. With this model already showing up in sub-35k searches, this becomes a fourth drivetrain option. No need for an entirely new model, that won’t show up.

    I'm trying to put this into terms GM's, Vice President Perry, will understand. He must read this ;)


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (12:21 pm)

    Dave G: I’m still waiting for the MPV5.We have a 100 pound dog.He doesn’t fit in our Volt,

    anybody that makes car buying decisions around their dog friends is OK in my book. (My brother in law bought a 100,000 $ motor home for his dogs.)


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (12:28 pm)

    Jackson: Are the costs and benefits of the current model compelling enough for many more drivers?

    I say they are.

    #21

    Me too. +1


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (12:29 pm)

    George S. Bower: Me thinks they find out that they have tons of life margin in the current Volt battery.

    #22

    “God send that it shall be true.” +1


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (12:31 pm)

    George S. Bower: Wasn’t that the first year for the V8 (that you blew up)?

    #23

    Yeah, good eye. We had almost completely used up the engine at Sonoma and this one was totally fresh. Infant mortality I think they call it. They say that they always run best just before they blow up and it was really hauling for sure.

    “Oh well, that’s racin’” Lick our wounds and come back next year.

    Thanks. +1


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (12:33 pm)

    volt11: For one specific example, the Volt could desperately use a heated steering wheel option, given its marginal heater performance in very cold climates. We customers have mentioned it over and over and over on the forums. Heated rear seats would be a big plus as well. Both of these are available on the Nissan Leaf. Many of us want adaptive cruise like the LaCrosse got, and ALL of these wish-list items will be available on the Volt’s glamorous sister car, the ELR. We got none of that on the Volt for 2014. That’s just neglect, I don’t care how you spin it.

    I could pass on all these, but I would love to have the regen paddles!


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (12:35 pm)

    pjwood: The new Corvette feeds GM’s expanding reputaion for delivering the best modal efficiency, with over 400 horse power and torque, and at a class crushing 29hwy. Hmmm.

    #24

    They had a whole gaggle of them at Laguna this weekend, including a net “cutaway” with no body, showing all of the mechanicals. VERY impressive.

    I told one of the guys from Chevy that it was the second most sophisticated car they offer, after the Volt of course!


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (12:37 pm)

    kdawg: I could pass on all these, but I would love to have the regen paddles!

    #29

    Too bloody right! +1


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (12:38 pm)

    Noel Park: #23

    “Oh well, that’s racin’”Lick our wounds and come back next year.

    Thanks.+1

    OT for anyone interested in the Rolex Motorsport reunion that Noel raced in.
    Noel is probably to humble to post it but here is a Car and Driver report on it.

    http://www.caranddriver.com/photo-gallery/rolex-monterey-motorsports-reunion-mega-gallery-2013-pebble-beach

    There are 3 gen 1 Vettes in the photos but I’m not sure if any of them are of Noel’s car.

    Noel?


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (12:42 pm)

    Noel Park: I was running 4th and dreaming of challenging for 3rd when the engine blew up.

    Wait…. How could a car that doesn’t even have a Li-ion battery blow up? :)


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (12:57 pm)

    Dave G: I’m still waiting for the MPV5. We have a 100 pound dog. He doesn’t fit in our Volt, so we use our 2007 Honda CRV for that. When that dies, hopefully GM will be shipping the MPV5. If not, I guess we’ll buy a Prius V or a C-MAX.

    How about the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV?


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (1:03 pm)

    pjwood: Like George says, we have to stop focusing on “Gen 2″, and keep thinking “drivetrain”. The new Impala trunk has a canyon of space, bigger than any sedan I’ve ever owned. Hmmm. The new Corvette feeds GM’s expanding reputaion for delivering the best modal efficiency, with over 400 horse power and torque, and at a class crushing 29hwy. Hmmm. Why don’t they put the Spark’s usable kwh (17.3) in the Impala, or get ~40+ AER, add a PHEV mode for faster acceleration, and begin to go after Tesla’s big void? They’re starting with a beautiful, well-rated shell.

    Base the full-size EREV on the Impala, the same way the Volt is based on the Cruze: Give it a different name and image. An Impala-EREV option will be cost-compared to the non-EREV version; next to no one compares the Volt to the Cruze. The downside is the need to create a different shell, though this could be a good thing, depending on how it’s done.

    Once the Volt gets the 3 cyl, perhaps the Impala-based car could ‘inherit’ the Volt’s current 4? Just a thought.


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (1:29 pm)

    Noel Park: #24They had a whole gaggle of them at Laguna this weekend, including a net “cutaway” with no body, showing all of the mechanicals. VERY impressive.

    Sorry to hear about the (2nd?) engine, Noel, and congratulations. Wrenching knocked me out of signing up for the track time I’d like to, this year. It feels like such a waste, but time is short.

    There’s actually a gaggle of Porsche GT3 track rats keeping a “new Corvette” thread constantly on the front page of another forum I visit. As folks get more into tracking their cars, fast, reliable and cheap begin to trump the ego-marquee BS. Of course, “cheap” is relative. They don’t want to pay 130k base, for a 4-wheel steering automatic, that no longer comes out of the Motorsports department (it was Porsche’s idea). The ‘Vette uses the same Brembo ceramics –I’ll stop going OT, there.


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (1:40 pm)

    George S. Bower: anybody that makes car buying decisions around their dog friends is OK in my book. (My brother in lawbought a 100,000 $ motor home for his dogs.)

    I bought a 2009 Chevy Equinox to carry my two dogs. It isn’t EREV or hybrid, but I rather spend money for a GM vehicle. Remember, GM did produce several fuel-cell powered Equinox in 2008, and they are full EVs (before the Volt), except that the battery is smaller. I expect GM to convert the next Equinox to have a EREV version.

    Raymond


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (1:51 pm)

    Noel Park: Rolex Monterey Motorsports Reunion report:

    Congrats. Sounds like you did incredibly well. Seems like there was a terrible and great part. You should enjoy the “great” and leave the “terrible” go.


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (1:53 pm)

    George S. Bower: There are 3 gen 1 Vettes in the photos but I’m not sure if any of them are of Noel’s car.

    Noel?

    #32

    Thanks for your kind words and the heads up on these photos. +1

    Our car is the white ’55 with blue stripes next to the XK120 on the top of page 4.


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (1:57 pm)

    DonC: You should enjoy the “great” and leave the “terrible” go.

    #38

    Thanks. +1

    I’m trying, but it ain’t easy. We’re looking at a long and expensive off season.


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (2:01 pm)

    pjwood: Wrenching knocked me out of signing up for the track time I’d like to, this year. It feels like such a waste, but time is short.

    #36

    Yeah, but at my age you become ever more aware of how short life is too. If I ever actually counted up what it costs in $$$, blood, sweat and tears I’m sure that I would instantly quit. But we only have a finite number of racing seasons left, so to hell with it!


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (2:12 pm)

    Still no 5 Seater?!?!?!?


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (2:14 pm)

    kdawg: How about the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV?

    Isn’t that late 2014? My price SWAG on that: $47,000.00 (Pre-any rebates)


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (2:41 pm)

    kdawg: How about the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV?

    With only 25 miles AER, most of our miles would probably use gasoline. The regular Outlander 4WD gets about 23 MPG. A non-plug-in hybrid with higher mileage (CMAX or Prius V) may use less gas. I’d have to calculate.


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (2:41 pm)

    Noel Park: #32

    Our car is the white ’55 with blue stripes next to the XK120 on the top of page 4.

    Is that you driving?

    NoelVette_zps5a44689c.jpg


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (3:09 pm)

    George S. Bower: Is that you driving?

    Did you ever notice, everyone looks better with a race helmet? :-)


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (3:39 pm)

    George S. Bower: Is that you driving?

    #45

    Oh yeah. I always say that I’d rather finish last driving my own car than win with some ringer driver, LOL.

    Thanks for posting the photo. +1


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (7:15 pm)

    volt11: Did you ever notice, everyone looks better with a race helmet?

    It definitely applies in my case.


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (7:17 pm)

    Noel Park,

    Noel,
    are those special custom Nurf bar/mini bumpers in the front? They really make the car look good!


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (7:33 pm)

    If it is true that the Gen 2 Volt or 2.0 will be cheaper?

    I hope that it will finally be priced around $25,000.00-$30,000.00 MSRP.

    In my opinion this is where the Volt should been priced back in year 2010 when the gen 1 was released.

    If it’s priced around this price range imagine how well it will be able to compete against other EV’S, E-REV’S I guess it’s not EREV hmm?

    Last but not least the PHEV.

    Especially the Leaf I hope the general public will get to know more about the Volt and love the Volt more then ever before.

    The Future Is Electric!

    Go Volt!


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (7:43 pm)

    George S. Bower:
    Noel Park,

    Noel,
    are those special custom Nurf bar/mini bumpers in the front? They really make the car look good!

    #49

    No, all of that stuff is factory stock ’53-’55 Corvette. Thanks for the compliment though. +1


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (7:56 pm)

    George S. Bower: It definitely applies in my case.

    Mine too. At least you can pick your helmet ;-)
    http://tinyurl.com/kk2vzdx


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (8:01 pm)

    volt11: Mine too. At least you can pick your helmet
    http://tinyurl.com/kk2vzdx

    That’s really a good one.
    I need to get another helmet.
    It will be some money….but could definitely be an improvement!


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    Aug 20th, 2013 (8:20 pm)

    George S. Bower: Is that you driving?

    We now know that Noel is … “The Stig”!