Nov 29

Volvo V60 gets top crash test rating; Fiat boasts of newly unveiled EV

 

Volvo V60 Plug-in Hybrid tops Euro NCAP crash test results

 

By Philippe Crowe

Volvo prides itself on making vehicles that are safe in all respects. It then should come as no surprise that the Volvo V60 Plug-in Hybrid has achieved the highest safety score ever for an electrified car in Euro NCAP.

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The five stars obtained in the recent test, which included a frontal offset collision at 64 kph (40 mph), demonstrates that the V60 Plug-in Hybrid has the same high safety level as the standard V60.

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“We apply the same high standards to all our products. The Euro NCAP score demonstrates that the ingenious V60 Plug-in Hybrid features the same outstanding safety level as the standard car,” says Jan Ivarsson, senior manager Safety Strategy & Requirements at Volvo Car Group.

Volvo says the integration of the battery pack and the added weight the batteries create required a unique safety approach during the development of the V60 Plug-in Hybrid.

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The structure has been modified and reinforced to enable a controlled deformation to help provide a high safety level. The battery pack in the V60 Plug-in Hybrid is well encapsulated and located under the load floor.

“The Plug-in Hybrid has been exposed to an extensive test program during the development phase, as all our new car models,” says Jan Ivarsson. “This includes full-scale crash tests with different load cases, such as frontal collision, rear and side collisions to verify that also the battery technology fulfils our stringent safety requirements. The V60 Plug-in Hybrid also offers all unique Volvo active safety functions, such as City Safety, Collision Warning with full Auto Brake and Pedestrian Detection.”

Detailed information about the tests and the results can be found at: www.euroncap.com.

Production of the new 2013 V60 Plug-in Hybrid is ramping up and the first 1,000 ‘Pure Limited’ cars were sold out before they reached the showrooms. After this initial production run, production of the Plug-in Hybrid will increase to 4,000-6,000 cars for model year 2014.

While the battery appears to have been well isolated, Volvo did not say whether the European authorities would leave the car with battery charged. If it catches fire in three weeks, unknown also if it will be a national scandal and whether Volvo would buy back V60s if owners have “concerns,” or whether certain politicians and pundits would also then play dog pile on the rabbit against the car. Guess we’ll have to wait and see on those questions …

 

Fiat Unveils 500e At LA Auto Show

 

By Pete Brissette

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If you think the Chevy Spark EV might have room for improvement, implicitly, Fiat may also agree with you.

Without naming cars specifically, Fiat said yesterday it has the answer to what it generally describes as the “blocky, bulky, busy, ugly … and worst of all, goofy” current crop of environmentally friendly automobiles on the market.

During the Fiat press conference at the 2012 Los Angeles Auto Show, Fiat’s worldwide brand chief, Olivier Francois, primed the crowd for the unveiling of the all-electric powertrain 500e by asking, “Isn’t ugliness the worst pollution of all?”

François’ blatant implication was that the sporty design DNA of Fiat’s 500 lineup now infused in the all-new 500e is the remedy for a market full of unattractive and uninspired alternative-fuel vehicles.

 

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“Any company can deliver that’s environmentally friendly,” said François. “Let me tell you it takes Fiat to deliver something that’s environmentally sexy.”

Vehicle aesthetics are subjective; but Fiat backs up the appearance of the 500e with notable figures for its new EV.

Fiat says the micro car offers driving range of at least 80 miles, with city driving pushing the range to 100 miles The company also says the EV will go 0 – 60 in nine seconds, with a top speed of 85 mph. François stated the battery’s performance is “all-weather,” saying range isn’t reduced by ambient temperature extremes, and that a full recharge takes approximately four hours via a 240-volt charger.

 

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The li-ion battery has an eight-year warranty.

The company that also owns a majority stake in Chrysler says its new EV’s electric motor produces 111 horsepower and 147 pound-feet of torque from a 24-kilowatt lithium-ion battery. Additionally, the car’s battery charge level, tire pressure, charging status, remote heating and cooling, as well as locating nearby charging stations and numerous other features, are all accessible via a smart phone app.

Beyond passion-driven Italian styling and the above performance figures, Fiat was otherwise light on details for the 500e in terms of MSRP but did announce that when the car goes on sale in Spring 2013 it will be immediately available from dealers, but only in California.

 

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This California-only footnote may further lend credence to recent speculation that the 500e is merely a compliance car meant to meet California regulations requiring manufactures produce a certain percentage of zero-emission vehicles.

While François injected entertainment and requisite enthusiasm for the 500e, a great deal more time was spent on the unveiling of Fiat’s new four-door 500L. According to Fiat the new vehicle is only two feet longer than two-door 500 models, but offers 42 percent more interior room. The L model will arrive in Summer 2013.

Also of note, François stated that all manual transmission 500 models get a minimum of 40 mpg.

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    Nov 29th, 2012 (8:02 am)

    I knew ahead about this EV from Fiat, but I know that the Smart EV is a much better offering. I have not seen any prices for the Fiat 500e, but I can easily bet that it will be more expensive (over $30,000), and will not be price effective, especially that the ICE version is almost half of that.

    But any competition is good, and I hope GM realizes this, so they will offer a lower price for the Spark EV before tax incentives (I can’t use any), and I want to buy the GM version as soon as possible.

    Anyway, watch the news today because the LA Auto Show has a preview for the press, so we can see how the two compare. I hope someone here who lives in Los Angeles can attend the show this weekend, take pictures, and give us their views on all the EVs in the show.

    Raymond


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    Nov 29th, 2012 (8:03 am)

    FIAT bought them a couple of years back… Good for Volvo, hopefully they’ll have a plug-in for their lower models within 2 years although that might be a stretch….

    MrEnergyCzar


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    Nov 29th, 2012 (8:06 am)

    ‘François stated the battery’s performance is “all-weather,” saying range isn’t reduced by ambient temperature extremes’.

    I know that this is a lie, but let the first Fiat 500e drives disprove this, just as what happened with the Nissan Leaf.

    Raymond


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    Nov 29th, 2012 (8:26 am)

    On the Volvo:
    As expected safety ratings which is good considering the higher weight. It’s a very nice vehicle.

    On the Fiat:
    I’m sorry but the car to me is quite homely and even butt ugly. It makes the spark look cute and sleek. IMO

    On the Volt:
    Sleek and sexy! I get quite alot of questions, comments, and looks. :D

    ELR:
    Over-the-top cool, nuff said. ;)


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    Nov 29th, 2012 (8:30 am)

    Raymondjram: ‘François stated the battery’s performance is “all-weather,” saying range isn’t reduced by ambient temperature extremes’.
    I know that this is a lie, but let the first Fiat 500e drives disprove this, just as what happened with the Nissan Leaf.

    I was just going to post this. It’s BS. Otherwise Fiat has figured out a way to change the laws of physics.

    Also: ” a full recharge takes approximately four hours via a 240-volt charger.”

    How can they charge a 24kWh battery in 4 hours when it takes Nissan 7 hours?


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    Nov 29th, 2012 (9:22 am)

    ^couldn’t you change the amperage of the 240V charger and get a faster charge? Like 6.6kw instead of 3.3kw OK I had better go review physics, not sure if that made sense….


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    Nov 29th, 2012 (9:27 am)

    Look at that last photo, and don’t even TRY to convince me that the Fiat looks better than the Spark. Gaah. To each their own, I guess.


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    Nov 29th, 2012 (9:52 am)

    All of these mini cars are ugly. Top of the ugly heap by a wide margin, SMART
    Second runner up (all box cars like the Scion Xb, Nissan Cube, Kia Soul, etc.)
    Third in the ugly contest are vehicles like the Chevy Spark and Fiat 500.
    Finally, Mini SUV’s and it doesn’t matter who makes them. Ford Escape, Mercedes Benz GLK are good examples.

    Only 3 box sedans and coupes EVER win any awards for attractiveness. This is the way a vehicle SHOULD look. Anything else, and I mean ANYTHING ELSE is a compromise to meet a specific performance criteria such as people hauling or towing. Lets face it, every office has to have ugly girls in order to get the job done.


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    Nov 29th, 2012 (10:00 am)

    I was up in NYC on Monday and walked past the two showrooms selling Fiat 500s and Smart cars nearby (52nd and 11th ave area). The Fiats still are nicer to look at than Smart cars. In NYC, Fiats and the new EV make sense from a small, easy to park solution. Maybe even lots could be setup with smaller parking places to let more cars be stored in the same place. The Spark style is a little better than these other two, however.


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    Nov 29th, 2012 (10:04 am)

    kdawg,

    I’m guessing the 500e will have a 6.6KW charger vs. the Leaf’s 3.3KW


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    Nov 29th, 2012 (10:32 am)

    Has pricing for the Fiat 500e been announced? I found this tid-bit:

    “Losing $14,000
    Marchionne, 60, has said natural gas and diesel engines and more efficient conventional powertrains are better options for creating greener cars than plug-in hybrids or electrics. While the company hasn’t set a price for the 500e, Marchionne in October said Fiat will lose about $14,000 on each one it sells.

    Looking that the interior, there’s no touchscreen; what’s going on with those cup holders; radio buttons seem odd; no shifter more buttons; wonder how long before that white steering wheel becomes dirty?

    Also, what size are those wheels, 14″? Will this car go through any snow?

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    Nov 29th, 2012 (10:38 am)

    Logical_Thinker: Look at that last photo, and don’t even TRY to convince me that the Fiat looks better than the Spark. Gaah. To each their own, I guess.

    I found and article with some interesting info regarding “ugliness”

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    Snubbed Leaf
    Critics of electric cars, Marchionne among them, have said battery costs and range may limit demand for electric cars. Fiat is positioning the 500e as the battery-powered option for buyers who have snubbed Nissan’s Leaf for a reason many cars fail to find a market: its looks.

    Exterior styling is the biggest issue keeping consumers from buying the Leaf, according to a survey of more than 24,000 new-car buyers by J.D. Power & Associates. While styling was also a concern about GM’s plug-in hybrid Chevy Volt and Toyota Motor Corp. (7203)’s Prius, purchase price and performance were more commonly cited problems among those who passed over those cars, J.D. Power said.

    “If people can’t past the exterior, it doesn’t matter what else you have to offer,” said Dominique.

    Before he left Nissan, Dominique said, his team “fought pretty hard” to make the Leaf “at least directionally mainstream.” Ghosn’s original design, he said, “was much, much more futuristic.”

    Some of the Leaf’s “distinctive” components, such as its headlamps, serve functional purposes including increased aerodynamics and reduced wind noise, Brian Brockman, a Nissan spokesman, said in an e-mailed statement.

    ‘Instantly Identifiable’
    “We heard from our target customers that they wanted a car that is instantly identifiable as an electric car, and the design of Leaf sets it apart from other vehicles on the road,” he said.


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    Nov 29th, 2012 (10:41 am)

    I like drawings like these that show where everything is. Good to see Fiat went w/liquid cooling on the battery.

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    Nov 29th, 2012 (10:44 am)

    solo: Lets face it, every office has to have ugly girls in order to get the job done.

    I wouldn’t mind working with these office girls :)

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    Nov 29th, 2012 (10:45 am)

    solo: All of these mini cars are ugly. (…)
    Third in the ugly contest are vehicles like the Chevy Spark and Fiat 500.

    I don’t know how many Italians you just insulted saying they don’t have taste and you do but that must be a lot, lol.


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    Nov 29th, 2012 (10:48 am)

    kdawg: Also, what size are those wheels, 14″? Will this car go through any snow?

    I had a Civic in the ’80s with 13″ tires and I was going through snow alright with its front wheel drive. I wouldn’t be worried with 14″ tires.


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    Nov 29th, 2012 (10:49 am)

    OK. 80 mile highway range. So a 150mile trip takes about 3 hours of driving and 4 hours of time waiting at the charging station.


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    Nov 29th, 2012 (10:49 am)

    Raymondjram,

    The difference is, unlike the Leaf, the Fiat has a liquid battery temperature control system. That’s huge.


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    Nov 29th, 2012 (11:24 am)

    147 lb/ft of torque vs. 400 lb/ft in the Spark. That’s all I need to know….


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    Nov 29th, 2012 (11:30 am)

    “Isn’t ugliness the worst pollution of all?”

    Sorry, but I think the original 500 is pretty ugly. Typical Italian styling arrogance to claim anything else, and I wonder how much we can trust an engineering job in the land where Style is All. JMO.

    I do have to admit that the car is better looking in person, though that isn’t saying a lot.


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    Nov 29th, 2012 (11:37 am)

    Bonaire: Maybe even lots could be setup with smaller parking places to let more cars be stored in the same place.

    #8

    Good idea. +1

    Supposedly one of the original design goals of the Smart was to make it short enough to park backed in to the curb in horribly congested Paris. Thus 2 Smarts could park in one regular parking space.

    I figured out that I could park 2 Smarts one behind the other in one garage space, thus freeing up the other on for another old car. An emphatic NO SALE with my wife however, LOL.


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    Nov 29th, 2012 (11:40 am)

    kdawg: I wouldn’t mind working with these office girls

    #13

    Man, that Fiat’s a lot better looking than the red one above! +1


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    Nov 29th, 2012 (11:46 am)

    kdawg: Looking that the interior

    #10

    I’m trying not to, LOL. I think that the Fiat 500, especially the Abarth, is a really cute little car. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder after all. Italians are brilliant car stylists without a doubt IMHO. But that white/red interior is hideous to my eye. And the white fascia on the front is pretty jarring too. All of the white accents, now that I look again. Come on guys, just paint it all Italian red and have it over with.

    I sure hope for Fiat’s sake that there will be other options available.

    Maybe if they stood those 2 young ladies next to it????????

    As to Volvo/Geely, the less said the better as far as I’m concerned.


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    Nov 29th, 2012 (11:57 am)

    Noel Park: But that white/red interior is hideous to my eye. And the white fascia on the front is pretty jarring too. All of the white accents, now that I look again. Come on guys, just paint it all Italian red and have it over with.
    I sure hope for Fiat’s sake that there will be other options available.

    Here’s the black interior.

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    Nov 29th, 2012 (12:00 pm)

    If the Fiat 500e is too small for you, just get the extended version LOL.

    http://blog.roadandtrack.com/fiat-500-limousine/

    Here’s a couple pics but there’s more in the link above.

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    Nov 29th, 2012 (12:15 pm)

    Raving Volt fan in Milwaukee area wanted:

    I got an email yesterday from Heiser Automotive Group asking if I could refer an enthusiastic Volt owner for the auto dealership group’s advertising purposes. Not sure if it would pay or not, or really, any more than this …

    “We’re interested in speaking with an enthusiastic poster about his/her love of their Chevy Volt in this area. Can you direct me to where I might find/contact such a person? Thanks.” – Heiser’s director of marketing.

    If anyone is interested, please email me and I’ll put you in contact.

    jcobb@verticalscope.com


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    Nov 29th, 2012 (12:42 pm)

    kdawg: Here’s the black interior.

    #24

    What a relief! thanks. +1


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    Nov 29th, 2012 (12:48 pm)

    kdawg: If the Fiat 500e is too small for you, just get the extended version LOL.

    #25

    Cool! If it was within my power I would crown you King Of The Links. +1

    The one with the open back area puts me in the mind of the Fiat 500 Jolly which was a sort of Riviera beach car they built in the 60s if memory serves. It had a completely open top with a sort of striped surrey looking awning. The seats were wicker, I guess to shed the sand. One of the cutest things you will ever see. Maybe they’ll make a modern version of that. As you know, I’m a dyed-in-the-wool Chevy guy, but THAT would be an almost irresistible temptation.


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    Nov 29th, 2012 (12:53 pm)

    BlackSun: The difference is, unlike the Leaf, the Fiat has a liquid battery temperature control system. That’s huge.

    The Volt is also liquid cooled, but my summer range was 40 and my winter is 28.
    It’s not just battery conditioning that affects winter ranges.


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    Nov 29th, 2012 (1:08 pm)

    Noel Park:
    The one with the open back area puts me in the mind of the Fiat 500 Jolly which was a sort of Riviera beach car they built in the 60s if memory serves. It had a completely open top with a sort of striped surrey looking awning. The seats were wicker, I guess to shed the sand. One of the cutest things you will ever see. Maybe they’ll make a modern version of that. As you know, I’m a dyed-in-the-wool Chevy guy, but THAT would be an almost irresistible temptation.

    Speaking of open-concept beach cars, remember this one from the 80′s? It’s a not a Chevy, but the Pontiac Stinger.. LOL. Read some of the accessories it had… somewhat ahead of its time.. and also makes you ask what were they smoking.
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    http://www.highperformancepontiac.com/features/hppp_0604_1989_pontiac_stinger/

    and

    http://history.gmheritagecenter.com/wiki/index.php/Pontiac_Stinger_Concept_Car

    The 1989 Pontiac Stinger concept car is classified as a sport style, all wheel drive, and all seasons vehicle with an active suspension system for all terrain driving. The body of the Stinger is made up of carbon fiber panels. The glass panels are all removable, except for the windshield. The body can be transformed from two-door enclosed transportation to open air fun, adaptable to a number of different activities. A roof light bar, adjustable rear spoiler and removable glass roof panels complete the exterior transformation from a workday mode of transportation to weekend fun. Even the glass in the lower portion of the door can be removed and substituted with a panel containing a beverage cooler and storage box for convenience.

    The Stinger is 164.8 inches long on a 98-inch wheelbase. It stands 58.8 inches high, 73.7 inches wide. It is equipped with 295/55R16 Goodyear front tires and 295/55R18 Goodyear rear tires.

    The Stinger has a 3.0 liter four cylinder 16-valve engine that delivers 170 horsepower at 6500 rpm. It features a 3-speed automatic transmission, independent suspension and anti-lock disc brakes (ABS). The pneumatic active suspension system allows the vehicle to rise four inches higher for off road driving.

    A keyless entry system allows access to the Stinger’s interior. Inside, the Stinger has seating for four adults, with additional stowage space for a variety of items. For example, the Stinger has built-in convenience items such as pull-out radio and carrying case, a portable hand held vacuum, electrical extension cord, camper stove, hose, flashlight, picnic table, tool box, carrying case with binoculars, first aid kit, calculator, sewing kit, compass and magnifying glass, fire extinguisher, umbrella, two small tote bags, brush and dust pan.

    The Instrument panel features electric tilt wheel and steering column, both with memory, manual tilt gauges for driver comfort and visibility, an electric compass, an attitude gyro depicting vehicle tilt, and pull-out drawer containing a removable cellular phone and message machine. The driver’s side armrest also contains a cellular telephone. The console contains the sport styled shifter, and control switch for soft and hard ride, and the pullout radio and carrying case. A front-loaded compact disc player and newly styled radio controls also are located in the console.

    The seating in the Stinger is six-way power with memory and an inflatable bladder system for front seat passengers. When the Stinger is parked, the open roof allows the rear seats to be raised 15 inches electrically to provide rear seat passengers with a unique view over the roof light bar. All seats in the Stinger can fold flat for storage or even overnight sleeping. A built in utility seat in the front passenger seat can be removed for use as a camping chair.

    The roll bar in the Stinger contains the roof lamp and adjustable spoiler controls plus map lights. There are removable carrying cases built in throughout the interior.

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    Nov 29th, 2012 (1:28 pm)

    Neromanceres: kdawg,
    I’m guessing the 500e will have a 6.6KW charger vs. the Leaf’s 3.3KW

    You’re correct. (from Insideev’s site)

    “This motor is powered by a 24 kWh lithium battery that can be recharged in less than four hours via a 240v (6.6kW) charging station.”


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    Nov 29th, 2012 (1:33 pm)

    kdawg: somewhat ahead of its time

    #30

    No kidding! Very cool. +1

    Maybe they could make a Volt or Spark based version. It sure would make me forget the ELR, LOL.


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    Nov 29th, 2012 (3:32 pm)

    kdawg: The Volt is also liquid cooled, but my summer range was 40 and my winter is 28.
    It’s not just battery conditioning that affects winter ranges.

    That is why I posted about the lie: François stated the battery’s performance is “all-weather,” saying range isn’t reduced by ambient temperature extremes. Even with liquid coolant, the battery range will vary with external temperature. As I posted, the first 500e drivers will prove that the range will vary.

    OT: The LA Auto Show has a nice picture of the Chevy Spark EV. It has the sealed grille, just like the Volt:http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/photo/17416105/gm-spark-ev.jpg

    Here is some info:

    Spark EV features a prominent closed upper grille and an automatic shutter system to reduce drag and guide airflow around the vehicle. Full-length underbody panels help reduce drag while wheel deflectors and an integrated rear spoiler carry airflow around and away from the car. It is lean and muscular design put to work aerodynamically, which helps Spark EV splice through the air with the greatest of ease.

    In Spark EV, the interior balances a flowing, spacious design with features like bright electric blue color accents; chrome and leatherette mixed with a stylish cockpit vibe complete with a motorcycle-inspired instrument cluster. The car provides 86.3 cubic feet of passenger space.

    I ask again if someone can attend the show and post new information. And watch the news tonight.

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    Nov 29th, 2012 (5:59 pm)

    I think Spark will be a much better car hands down, as GM has 3-4 yrs of experience with Volt and their liquid cooled battery. Fiat will hype the 500e but doubt they will be able to match the build exprience of Spark, leaf etc ..


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    Nov 29th, 2012 (6:13 pm)

    Pat:
    I think Spark will be a much better car hands down, as GM has 3-4 yrs of experience with Volt and their liquid cooled battery.Fiat will hype the 500ebut doubt they will be able to match the build exprience of Spark, leaf etc ..

    #34

    I agree. +1


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    Nov 29th, 2012 (9:17 pm)

    “Isn’t ugliness the worst pollution of all?”

    I can understand their wanting to drive home their point… but did they REALLY need to go so far out of their way to provide a prime example? Yuck! That 500e is one homely roller-skate.


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    Nov 30th, 2012 (6:37 pm)

    kdawg: I found and article with some interesting info regarding “ugliness”

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    ‘Instantly Identifiable’
    “We heard from our target customers that they wanted a car that is instantly identifiable as an electric car, and the design of Leaf sets it apart from other vehicles on the road,” he said.

    That’s probably a small target. I’m not all that concerned about telling everybody else what sort of power train is in my vehicle.