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		<title>By: RogerE333</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2010/02/25/gm-exec-chevy-volt-effective-price-easily-less-than-30000/#comment-179940</link>
		<dc:creator>RogerE333</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>me: &gt; If they have the $7500 credit + the $4000 on my GM Card + [something else] and no dealer markup then I may go for it. 

This is probably old news but I noticed in my GM Card bill this month that the maximum you can use on a purchase is $1000 for most cars.  When I signed up I believe it was $7000.  I am not a happy camper!  I&#039;ve spent many years building it up to $4000 and keeping it there, apparently for (almost) nothing...

I realize that GM sold off the GM Card program a few years back, but it&#039;s still not right to screw over people who have used the card for nearly 20 years.  The [something else] mentioned above had better be pretty good to make up for this...

Gripe mode off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>me: &gt; If they have the $7500 credit + the $4000 on my GM Card + [something else] and no dealer markup then I may go for it. </p>
<p>This is probably old news but I noticed in my GM Card bill this month that the maximum you can use on a purchase is $1000 for most cars.  When I signed up I believe it was $7000.  I am not a happy camper!  I&#8217;ve spent many years building it up to $4000 and keeping it there, apparently for (almost) nothing&#8230;</p>
<p>I realize that GM sold off the GM Card program a few years back, but it&#8217;s still not right to screw over people who have used the card for nearly 20 years.  The [something else] mentioned above had better be pretty good to make up for this&#8230;</p>
<p>Gripe mode off.</p>
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		<title>By: Tagamet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tagamet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 04:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-179448&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-179448&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Duane&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: I have already placed a $1000 deposit with my local Chevy Dealer. I am the first on their list for a new Volt when it arrives and I will be trading my 2008 Prius.The Volt will be the most tested GM vehicle to go into production.It will be perfect for my daily commute of 36 miles round trip.&#160;&#160;

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CONGRATS! May I ask what State you&#039;re in?
Be well and believe,
Tagamet

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<p><strong><a href="#comment-179448" rel="nofollow">Duane</a></strong>: I have already placed a $1000 deposit with my local Chevy Dealer. I am the first on their list for a new Volt when it arrives and I will be trading my 2008 Prius.The Volt will be the most tested GM vehicle to go into production.It will be perfect for my daily commute of 36 miles round trip.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
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<p>CONGRATS! May I ask what State you&#8217;re in?<br />
Be well and believe,<br />
Tagamet</p>
<p><b>L</b>et&#8217;s <b>J</b>ust <b>G</b>et <b>T</b>he <b>VOLTS &#8216;</b>  <b>W</b>heels <b>O</b>n <b>T</b>he <b>R</b>oad!!****<b>N</b>o <b>M</b>ore <b>&#8220;S</b>tay <b>T</b>uned&#8221;! </p>
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		<title>By: Tagamet</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2010/02/25/gm-exec-chevy-volt-effective-price-easily-less-than-30000/#comment-179510</link>
		<dc:creator>Tagamet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 04:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-179420&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-179420&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dave K.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Off Topic: Check this out. It works.

If you have ever locked your keys in the car and left your spare keys at home, you know how annoying it is to have someone bring the keys to you. Here is a different way to solve this problem quickly.

Cell%20phone%20start.jpg  
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Sorry, but I don&#039;t think that this works - at least Snopes says it&#039;s false.
http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/keyless.asp
Be well and believe (but verify),
Tagamet

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<p><strong><a href="#comment-179420" rel="nofollow">Dave K.</a></strong>: Off Topic: Check this out. It works.</p>
<p>If you have ever locked your keys in the car and left your spare keys at home, you know how annoying it is to have someone bring the keys to you. Here is a different way to solve this problem quickly.</p>
<p>Cell%20phone%20start.jpg
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<p>Sorry, but I don&#8217;t think that this works &#8211; at least Snopes says it&#8217;s false.<br />
<a href="http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/keyless.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/keyless.asp</a><br />
Be well and believe (but verify),<br />
Tagamet</p>
<p><b>L</b>et&#8217;s <b>J</b>ust <b>G</b>et <b>T</b>he <b>VOLTS &#8216;</b>  <b>W</b>heels <b>O</b>n <b>T</b>he <b>R</b>oad!!****<b>N</b>o <b>M</b>ore <b>&#8220;S</b>tay <b>T</b>uned&#8221;! </p>
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		<title>By: Tagamet</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2010/02/25/gm-exec-chevy-volt-effective-price-easily-less-than-30000/#comment-179509</link>
		<dc:creator>Tagamet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 04:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-179388&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-179388&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jimza Skeptic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
Be Careful if you are in Canada.Are our friendly neighbors to the North offering a $7500 USD tax break?I am guessing by this announcement thatGM price will be $35,999 USD so with US tax break, it falls “easily” below $30K. I have not heard Canada’s proposal for BEV &amp; EREV, Maybe it is even higher?&#160;&#160;

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The Canadian tax break is $10,000.
Be well and believe,
Tagamet

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<p><strong><a href="#comment-179388" rel="nofollow">Jimza Skeptic</a></strong>:<br />
Be Careful if you are in Canada.Are our friendly neighbors to the North offering a $7500 USD tax break?I am guessing by this announcement thatGM price will be $35,999 USD so with US tax break, it falls “easily” below $30K. I have not heard Canada’s proposal for BEV &amp; EREV, Maybe it is even higher?&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
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<p>The Canadian tax break is $10,000.<br />
Be well and believe,<br />
Tagamet</p>
<p><b>L</b>et&#8217;s <b>J</b>ust <b>G</b>et <b>T</b>he <b>VOLTS &#8216;</b>  <b>W</b>heels <b>O</b>n <b>T</b>he <b>R</b>oad!!****<b>N</b>o <b>M</b>ore <b>&#8220;S</b>tay</p>
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		<title>By: Roy H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 00:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-179189&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-179189&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;DonC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
Reducing mass increases MPG in conventional cars and increases EV range and 0=60 performance in EVs. It’s the same issue in both cases. Just because a car is an EV doesn’t mean the laws of physics can be suspended. In fact reducing mass is MORE important in EVs because they start with such little energy. As Frank Weber has pointed out, the Volt goes 40 miles on the energy equivalent of a quarter of a gallon of gas.&#160;&#160;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I beg to differ. An ICE car has no regenerative capability so all energy expended accelerating is lost, furthermore in an ICE hard acceleration greatly reduces milage, whereas an electric motor can be very efficient in all modes and speeds so there is little penalty for rapid acceleration. The energy losses in an EV are mostly speed related.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-179189" rel="nofollow">DonC</a></strong>:<br />
Reducing mass increases MPG in conventional cars and increases EV range and 0=60 performance in EVs. It’s the same issue in both cases. Just because a car is an EV doesn’t mean the laws of physics can be suspended. In fact reducing mass is MORE important in EVs because they start with such little energy. As Frank Weber has pointed out, the Volt goes 40 miles on the energy equivalent of a quarter of a gallon of gas.&nbsp;&nbsp;
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<p>I beg to differ. An ICE car has no regenerative capability so all energy expended accelerating is lost, furthermore in an ICE hard acceleration greatly reduces milage, whereas an electric motor can be very efficient in all modes and speeds so there is little penalty for rapid acceleration. The energy losses in an EV are mostly speed related.</p>
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