Comments on: Will the Nissan Leaf Be A Flop? http://gm-volt.com/2010/02/20/will-the-nissan-leaf-be-a-flop/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 03:11:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: SPARKY2012 http://gm-volt.com/2010/02/20/will-the-nissan-leaf-be-a-flop/#comment-178891 SPARKY2012 Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:11:24 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=3081#comment-178891 The Leaf people have not lied to us. Just where is my promised $20,000 Volt PEV, with a June 2008 delivery? Sparky The Leaf people have not lied to us.
Just where is my promised $20,000 Volt PEV, with a June 2008 delivery? Sparky

]]> By: Timaaayyy!!! http://gm-volt.com/2010/02/20/will-the-nissan-leaf-be-a-flop/#comment-178764 Timaaayyy!!! Wed, 24 Feb 2010 01:33:33 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=3081#comment-178764 <blockquote cite="comment-177942"> <strong><a href="#comment-177942" rel="nofollow">statik</a></strong>: I know Nissan and GM both have fairly lofty public goals when it comes to ‘future production’ of EVs (they are both in the 150K range by around 2015), but I think internally they both would be very excited to know the bottom end/’failure’ level is 20,000-30,000.These aren’t $17,000 compact…and I think thats where my opinion of abject failure and Mr. Flint’s really differ. The top 3 selling sedans with a starting MSRP over $35,000 for 2009 were:Lexus ES $35,174 – 48,485 unitsCadillac CTS $35,165 – 35,165 unitsAcura TL $35,105 – 33,620 units(excluding the family series/class from BMW(5)/Mercedes(C))…and it drops very, very quickly after this. There is a virtual sea of cars selling around the 10,000 unit level right now at this price point.  <a title="Click here or select text to quote comment" href="void(null)" rel="nofollow">(Quote)</A> </blockquote> Thanks for helping keep the Volt sales volume discussion realistic. Shows how essential a low price is to sales volume. And vice versa for new tech. Doesn't matter how compelling the car is--if it's $40k, a low percentage of people can afford to buy it. $20k and they'll be huge. In between will be, well, in-between.

statik: I know Nissan and GM both have fairly lofty public goals when it comes to ‘future production’ of EVs (they are both in the 150K range by around 2015), but I think internally they both would be very excited to know the bottom end/’failure’ level is 20,000-30,000.These aren’t $17,000 compact…and I think thats where my opinion of abject failure and Mr. Flint’s really differ. The top 3 selling sedans with a starting MSRP over $35,000 for 2009 were:Lexus ES $35,174 – 48,485 unitsCadillac CTS $35,165 – 35,165 unitsAcura TL $35,105 – 33,620 units(excluding the family series/class from BMW(5)/Mercedes(C))…and it drops very, very quickly after this. There is a virtual sea of cars selling around the 10,000 unit level right now at this price point.  (Quote)

Thanks for helping keep the Volt sales volume discussion realistic. Shows how essential a low price is to sales volume. And vice versa for new tech. Doesn’t matter how compelling the car is–if it’s $40k, a low percentage of people can afford to buy it. $20k and they’ll be huge. In between will be, well, in-between.

]]> By: prowler http://gm-volt.com/2010/02/20/will-the-nissan-leaf-be-a-flop/#comment-178760 prowler Wed, 24 Feb 2010 01:22:25 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=3081#comment-178760 <blockquote cite="comment-178408"> <strong><a href="#comment-178408" rel="nofollow">Don J</a></strong>: Please do us all a favor. When you need to clean your windshield, pull into a gas station, clean the windshield using their cleaner, and then drive off. Other people will start to see the light. <blockquote cite="comment-178408"> Will do, good advertising for all EVs.

Don J: Please do us all a favor. When you need to clean your windshield, pull into a gas station, clean the windshield using their cleaner, and then drive off. Other people will start to see the light.

Will do, good advertising for all EVs.

]]> By: Eric http://gm-volt.com/2010/02/20/will-the-nissan-leaf-be-a-flop/#comment-178638 Eric Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:57:18 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=3081#comment-178638 To answer the headline: I hope not. To answer the headline: I hope not.

]]> By: john http://gm-volt.com/2010/02/20/will-the-nissan-leaf-be-a-flop/#comment-178532 john Tue, 23 Feb 2010 08:46:55 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=3081#comment-178532 The unspoken truth of the electric cars successful is it will drive up the cost of electricity. Why, because of the increase in demand. Can you say roving black-outs? Look at what happened when diesel vehicles moved into accelerated production, the cost of diesel when through the roof. I predict the same thing will happen to electricity. You should expect your electric bills to increase similarly. The unspoken truth of the electric cars successful is it will drive up the cost of electricity. Why, because of the increase in demand. Can you say roving black-outs? Look at what happened when diesel vehicles moved into accelerated production, the cost of diesel when through the roof. I predict the same thing will happen to electricity. You should expect your electric bills to increase similarly.

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