Comments on: Lutz: Hybrids and EVs Won’t Surpass 10% of US Market Share For 10 Years http://gm-volt.com/2010/02/15/lutz-hybrids-and-evs-wont-surpass-10-of-us-market-share-for-10-years/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Sat, 26 May 2012 08:46:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Captain Hybrid » Blog Archive » Lutz: GM Will Lose Money On Volt http://gm-volt.com/2010/02/15/lutz-hybrids-and-evs-wont-surpass-10-of-us-market-share-for-10-years/#comment-178499 Captain Hybrid » Blog Archive » Lutz: GM Will Lose Money On Volt Tue, 23 Feb 2010 02:34:36 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=2983#comment-178499 [...] “GM will lose money on hybrids,” Lutz said, according to the web site GM-volt.com, as well as several news agencies. “We will continue to build them – they are required by [...] [...] “GM will lose money on hybrids,” Lutz said, according to the web site GM-volt.com, as well as several news agencies. “We will continue to build them – they are required by [...]

]]> By: Larry Parylla http://gm-volt.com/2010/02/15/lutz-hybrids-and-evs-wont-surpass-10-of-us-market-share-for-10-years/#comment-178135 Larry Parylla Sun, 21 Feb 2010 14:30:06 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=2983#comment-178135 <blockquote cite="comment-176814"> <strong><a href="#comment-176814" rel="nofollow">firehawk72</a></strong>: I would take a broad view to his comments.I would also like to emphasize that in general your older generation like Lutz (no offense to getting older….if we live we get old, period-and I want to get old:-)have the perception that these new fangled cars is NOT what the public wants but we will build them anyway to meet our EPA mileage requirements.I have mentioned the VOLT to many and in general for the people over 50 crowd the response is luke warm to COLD.My barber and I have great conversations about it and he believes it will flop because people simply won’t buy it.Of course, I am saying (I am 37 by the way) that I believe long term this is the direction for the auto and should be better for America because of Energy Independence (although I admit that is still a long way off).It is interesting though because I am also a school teacher of English and History, and my students think this Volt is awesome.In general, and of course there are exceptions, the older generation seems to have touble breaking away from what they are used to.The traditional ICE is what they know.It works and has worked for many generations.I don’t see the ICE going away anytime soon, but I fully believe plug in hybrids in some fashion are the new direction for many reasons including peak oil and energy independence.I also believe this is the new trend until a new technology can compete on a cost effective basis.Anyway, just sharing some thoughts and perspectives.I always try to keep an open mind about things, and I personally don’t think we change just to change; we only change when the change is for the better.Hawk   </blockquote> Generally speaking generalizations are foolish (the incongruity of the last statement was intended) I was born before TVs were popular and they just started getting popular when I was a child. I have seen the invention of video games, cell phones, color TV, flat panel TV and I love new technology and make a point to buy every new techno gadget I can afford. I am now driving my second Lexus hybrid. I am still amazed at the fact that when I drive from SC to NY I can use my GPS to locate a motel along the intended route and use my cell phone to call ahead and reserve a room.l. I think that being born at a time before these gadgets were invented makes many older folks want them more, While people that grew up with them take them for granted. Hopefully I will be able to get a Volt as soon as it is available to the general public.

firehawk72: I would take a broad view to his comments.I would also like to emphasize that in general your older generation like Lutz (no offense to getting older….if we live we get old, period-and I want to get old:-)have the perception that these new fangled cars is NOT what the public wants but we will build them anyway to meet our EPA mileage requirements.I have mentioned the VOLT to many and in general for the people over 50 crowd the response is luke warm to COLD.My barber and I have great conversations about it and he believes it will flop because people simply won’t buy it.Of course, I am saying (I am 37 by the way) that I believe long term this is the direction for the auto and should be better for America because of Energy Independence (although I admit that is still a long way off).It is interesting though because I am also a school teacher of English and History, and my students think this Volt is awesome.In general, and of course there are exceptions, the older generation seems to have touble breaking away from what they are used to.The traditional ICE is what they know.It works and has worked for many generations.I don’t see the ICE going away anytime soon, but I fully believe plug in hybrids in some fashion are the new direction for many reasons including peak oil and energy independence.I also believe this is the new trend until a new technology can compete on a cost effective basis.Anyway, just sharing some thoughts and perspectives.I always try to keep an open mind about things, and I personally don’t think we change just to change; we only change when the change is for the better.Hawk  

Generally speaking generalizations are foolish (the incongruity of the last statement was intended)

I was born before TVs were popular and they just started getting popular when I was a child. I have seen the invention of video games, cell phones, color TV, flat panel TV and I love new technology and make a point to buy every new techno gadget I can afford. I am now driving my second Lexus hybrid. I am still amazed at the fact that when I drive from SC to NY I can use my GPS to locate a motel along the intended route and use my cell phone to call ahead and reserve a room.l. I think that being born at a time before these gadgets were invented makes many older folks want them more, While people that grew up with them take them for granted. Hopefully I will be able to get a Volt as soon as it is available to the general public.

]]> By: jeff j http://gm-volt.com/2010/02/15/lutz-hybrids-and-evs-wont-surpass-10-of-us-market-share-for-10-years/#comment-177648 jeff j Thu, 18 Feb 2010 21:15:16 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=2983#comment-177648 Bob Lutz I really like this guy he tells it the way he sees it does not candy coat the issue just gives us some straight talk for a change I don't agree with his assessment this time but I don't agree with a lot of people most times. I don't think anyone can tell what the status of the auto industry is going to be in 10 years if you could guess that probably not have to worry about money because you'd be guessing the status of football hockey in any other game you can bet on. I feel that US sales and global sales will depend on how many players in the auto industry start coming out with electric vehicles. We were promised during the campaign by both parties drill here drill now, it's just a lie. People seem hell-bent on keeping our gas prices high! I do think the price of gas will have a lot to do with the economic growth of this particular type of vehicle there are only so many people that will buy this vehicle for the novelty of the technology and the electrification of the automobile. I believe there 250 million vehicles in America now I could be wrong, but at this level 10% would be 25 million vehicles. Not a bad start although I do think if the economic conditions are correct or right we could see a lot more maybe 20 t0 25%. Only time will tell I do think the volt has a huge chance to change the way we all drive in the near future. Bob Lutz I really like this guy he tells it the way he sees it does not candy coat the issue just gives us some straight talk for a change I don’t agree with his assessment this time but I don’t agree with a lot of people most times. I don’t think anyone can tell what the status of the auto industry is going to be in 10 years if you could guess that probably not have to worry about money because you’d be guessing the status of football hockey in any other game you can bet on. I feel that US sales and global sales will depend on how many players in the auto industry start coming out with electric vehicles. We were promised during the campaign by both parties drill here drill now, it’s just a lie. People seem hell-bent on keeping our gas prices high! I do think the price of gas will have a lot to do with the economic growth of this particular type of vehicle there are only so many people that will buy this vehicle for the novelty of the technology and the electrification of the automobile. I believe there 250 million vehicles in America now I could be wrong, but at this level 10% would be 25 million vehicles. Not a bad start although I do think if the economic conditions are correct or right we could see a lot more maybe 20 t0 25%. Only time will tell I do think the volt has a huge chance to change the way we all drive in the near future.

]]> By: zipdrive http://gm-volt.com/2010/02/15/lutz-hybrids-and-evs-wont-surpass-10-of-us-market-share-for-10-years/#comment-177420 zipdrive Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:04:22 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=2983#comment-177420 I like Bob Lutz. I think he is way off the mark on the prediction though. I think the demand for the Chevrolet Volt will be comparable to the Ford Mustang's debut in 1964. It will sell like crazy. If only GM could gear up to make more, I think they would sell more. But manufacturing half a million Volts per year initially will be impossible. The Volt, like the Mustang, is a watershed vehicle. Too bad it won't make money for GM right away. I like Bob Lutz. I think he is way off the mark on the prediction though. I think the demand for the Chevrolet Volt will be comparable to the Ford Mustang’s debut in 1964. It will sell like crazy.

If only GM could gear up to make more, I think they would sell more. But manufacturing half a million Volts per year initially will be impossible.

The Volt, like the Mustang, is a watershed vehicle. Too bad it won’t make money for GM right away.

]]> By: EVO http://gm-volt.com/2010/02/15/lutz-hybrids-and-evs-wont-surpass-10-of-us-market-share-for-10-years/#comment-177147 EVO Tue, 16 Feb 2010 22:28:49 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=2983#comment-177147 We went to 3% in the US after one decade, so if 10% in another decade, that means 34% in 2030. Ok, that'll be about right for us to tweak the infrastructure (including more distributed solar and wind and compressed natural gas, non food ethanol, and bio-diesel range extenders) to a better fit with plug ins of all stripes in real time as their market penetration expands multiplicatively. Sometimes, you have to get past a combative tone with some folks to see that they make sense. We went to 3% in the US after one decade, so if 10% in another decade, that means 34% in 2030. Ok, that’ll be about right for us to tweak the infrastructure (including more distributed solar and wind and compressed natural gas, non food ethanol, and bio-diesel range extenders) to a better fit with plug ins of all stripes in real time as their market penetration expands multiplicatively.

Sometimes, you have to get past a combative tone with some folks to see that they make sense.

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