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	<title>Comments on: Will Garage Charger Installation Turn Off Would be Electric Car Buyers?</title>
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		<title>By: whistleteeth</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2009/12/12/will-garage-charger-installation-turn-off-would-be-electric-car-buyers/#comment-163365</link>
		<dc:creator>whistleteeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 01:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s no big deal, I&#039;ll just get a seperate drop or go buy some solar and re-do it all anyway.  It&#039;s about the future!  CALIFORNIA is ready!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s no big deal, I&#8217;ll just get a seperate drop or go buy some solar and re-do it all anyway.  It&#8217;s about the future!  CALIFORNIA is ready!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-162879&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-162879&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Shawn Marshall&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
Lad,
Do you mean 2 spaces in your panel?
Are you forgetting a leetle safety detail for breakers in garages?(hint 5mA)
Peace be with you.&#160;&#160;

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210.8 (A) covers 125 volt gfci protection on receptacles.  If the charger is like the one in the picture, there is no receptacle involved and since the charger is 240 volt, then 210.8 does not apply anyway.

Number of spaces used depends on your panel.  Many panels require 2 one inch spaces for a dual pole breaker while the panel I have (GE) allows for dual pole in a 1 inch space.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-162879" rel="nofollow">Shawn Marshall</a></strong>:<br />
Lad,<br />
Do you mean 2 spaces in your panel?<br />
Are you forgetting a leetle safety detail for breakers in garages?(hint 5mA)<br />
Peace be with you.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
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<p>210.8 (A) covers 125 volt gfci protection on receptacles.  If the charger is like the one in the picture, there is no receptacle involved and since the charger is 240 volt, then 210.8 does not apply anyway.</p>
<p>Number of spaces used depends on your panel.  Many panels require 2 one inch spaces for a dual pole breaker while the panel I have (GE) allows for dual pole in a 1 inch space.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-162879&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Shawn Marshall&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
Lad,
Do you mean 2 spaces in your panel?
Are you forgetting a leetle safety detail for breakers in garages?(hint 5mA)
Peace be with you.&#160;&#160;

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That&#039;s one of the changes to the NEC I wasn&#039;t happy to see.  Prior versions of the code allowed for dedicated circuits (one outlet per breaker) without a GFI.   Freezers are notorious for tripping GFIs.  Often the owner won&#039;t know it happened until things start smelling bad.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-162879" rel="nofollow">Shawn Marshall</a></strong>:<br />
Lad,<br />
Do you mean 2 spaces in your panel?<br />
Are you forgetting a leetle safety detail for breakers in garages?(hint 5mA)<br />
Peace be with you.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
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<p>That&#8217;s one of the changes to the NEC I wasn&#8217;t happy to see.  Prior versions of the code allowed for dedicated circuits (one outlet per breaker) without a GFI.   Freezers are notorious for tripping GFIs.  Often the owner won&#8217;t know it happened until things start smelling bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 07:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-162574&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-162574&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NoVA guy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Question: Will you have to have to charge the Volt indoors or will the charging gear work OK outdoors?&#160;&#160;

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The GM engineer a few months back was on a chat here.  He said that the equipment is all rated for outdoor installation.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-162574" rel="nofollow">NoVA guy</a></strong>: Question: Will you have to have to charge the Volt indoors or will the charging gear work OK outdoors?&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
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<p>The GM engineer a few months back was on a chat here.  He said that the equipment is all rated for outdoor installation.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew B</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2009/12/12/will-garage-charger-installation-turn-off-would-be-electric-car-buyers/#comment-163065</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 07:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-162484&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Shawn Marshall&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 120 Volts is not 110 and 240 Volts is not 220 – get with it Oh Most knowledgeable ones.Typical electric range has a 50 amp breaker and could deliver 40A x .240kV = 9.6kW per hour if the batteries could take it.Plenty of room for BEV development – don’t you fret.&#160;&#160;

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LOL

You just committed the geek equivalent of a grammar correction post with a gross spelling error in it.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-162484" rel="nofollow">Shawn Marshall</a></strong>: 120 Volts is not 110 and 240 Volts is not 220 – get with it Oh Most knowledgeable ones.Typical electric range has a 50 amp breaker and could deliver 40A x .240kV = 9.6kW per hour if the batteries could take it.Plenty of room for BEV development – don’t you fret.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
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<p>LOL</p>
<p>You just committed the geek equivalent of a grammar correction post with a gross spelling error in it.</p>
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