Dec 10

Chevy Volt Will Connect to Blackberry and iPhone Apps

 

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[ad#post_ad]It is GM’s intention to make the Chevy Volt a very wired and connected high-tech car.

We have already known that charging will be programmable at least from the dash.  Drivers will be able to set the car to charge, for example, after midnight to take advantage of lower utility rates.  Another powerful set of real-time connected features will stem from OnStar system which is expected to be able to download to the car, among many other things, electricity rates from utility companies.

Nissan has previously announced their plan to make an iPod app that drivers could use to turn on or off their car’s charging and get text messages from their car.

GM it turns out has similar plans too.

Brent Dewar was the VP of Chevrolet when he showed a few flashy slides at the LA Auto Show last week while presenting the  the Volt and US Cruze, and the Volt’s paint color winner.  Yesterday Brent was removed from his position by the axe-weilidng Ed Whitacre just 5 months after taking it from Ed Peper.  Dewar will “retire” as of April 1 2010 and is being replaced by Jim Campbell.

Anyway, I digress.  Dewar had quickly flashed a slide across the screen revealing GM’s intention to develop mobile phone applications for controlling and interacting with the Volt. I captured the image and it is posted above.

GM sources have indicated that there will be applications at least for the iPod and the Blackberry.  These will soon be unveiled along with their potential functions.

Besides controlling when to charge the car, I could see these applications receiving signals from the car as well, indicating when charging is completed and if the driver forgot to plug it in at some time interval after arriving home.  Having forgotten to plug in my MINI E several times, I can assure you this function will be useful.

What functions would you like to see in a Volt mobile phone application? We might just have a chance to influence it.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (7:30 am)

    Excellent. This is a fantastic option for owners and another reason to buy an iPhone.

    I want to know everything that is going on with my car while I’m not in it. I want to heat it up during the day, 15 minutes before I leave work and while it is plugged in.
    Receiving text messages and being able to control it from afar will be very cool indeed.

    I realize that the “not so tech savvy” people might not use these features, but I certainly will.

    Thanks GM. Nice report Lyle.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (7:46 am)

    remote cabin temp control while the car is plugged in would be very nice. either in Hi summer or the depths of winter.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (7:46 am)

    Whatever they do they should make it available for Android platform.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (7:49 am)

    It would be great to get the car’s location… and no, not when it is in my garage.
    The feature would be great to have at large parking places: your car is located 150 meters THAT way.
    The Volt has GPS, my iPhone has GPS…


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (7:50 am)

    Features, that I’d like to see
    1. Full climate control while plugged in
    2. State of charge and EV range
    3. MPG, EV miles, $ saved, oil saved statistics.

    Put there a small oil dictators face, the longer you drive EV, the angrier it gets.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (7:57 am)

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    - phone app that you can use to tell the car to begin climate conditioning (i.e. turn on the heat/air because I’m going to be leaving in a few minutes)

    - phone app to push a specific route to the car so that you can do trip planning without having to get into the car. So you could figure out a route you’re going to take on your phone and then push those direction to the car so that you just get in and see your map sitting there waiting for you.

    - phone app to pull routes from the car. (same as above but pull the last “x” miles traveled as a map from the car so that you can see where you’ve been)

    - phone app to pull all past and upcoming scheduled maintenance.

    - phone app to pull just about any stat from the car that an enthusiast would want. (i.e. if the car can produce the stat then someone will want that info)


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (8:03 am)

    Alex @ 5 suggests “Put there a small oil dictators face, the longer you drive EV, the angrier it gets.”
    ======================================

    I LOVE IT! An angry sheik jumping up and down getting red-faced with rage!


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (8:07 am)

    HA, I was planning on getting an Iphone this weekend so now I have even more reason.

    I want a big tally on my phone that counts the number of miles I’ve driven AER and another number under that which counts the $ that stayed in the USA as a result of not buying middle east oil.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (8:08 am)

    Capital feature! THIS is the kind of innovative forward-thinking and attention to decepively small details that will put GM back on top where they belong.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (8:10 am)

    Tibor: It would be great to get the car’s location…

    Amen to that! Just think, the tow truck company will never make you rack up an extra 4 hours of fees while you try to get through to somebody who can tell you where your car has been towed to… for that matter, if the car sends a text when it’s moved while you’re not in it that would be great too. :)


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (8:19 am)

    I agree w/the “remote start” feature of the car, and to be able to pull any data out of the Volt. It would be nice to have trending so I could keep track of how many watts and gallon(s) of gas I’ve used in the last month.

    I’d also like a locate feature, so if I forget my parking spot, or someone else is driving my car I can locate it.

    What’s the bandwidth on OnStar? Is it equivalent to 3G? I think in may be interesting to be able to tap into the rear view camera on the car as well. If it could be streamed/recorded, it may help in capturing auto theives or be a deterrent to vandals.

    That’s it for now.. i need to keep thinking.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (8:25 am)

    there should also be ab android software for the chevrolet volt so that we can control the volt from our DROID phone or any other future android phone.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (8:36 am)

    I’d also like to add that if for some reason, I do not keep my Onstar subscription, I’d like to be able to run my Ap using Bluetooth. This mean’s I’d have to be sitting in the car basically, but I’d still like to be able to pull that data out of the Volt w/my Iphone. If it can be done via the USB port, that would be acceptable too.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (8:36 am)

    Regarding xed’s route planning idea:

    Being that I’ve got the great Navigon MobileNavigator app on my iPhone, I wonder if GM would be able to import and export routing data to and from the Volt in a standard format that MobileNavigator and other nav apps could be made compatible with in order to do route planning independent of the Volt’s nav system?

    To take the level of interoperability a step further they could work with Navigon to develop an add-on for MobileNavigator that includes special settings and considerations in order to properly route for the Volt, and the add-on could come with the purchase of a Volt with a nav system.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (8:37 am)

    If the vehicle’s internal temperature is about “X” (say 80 degrees F) it would would send a message to initiate cooldown a few minutes before entry.

    If the SOC is below “X” (say 70%) it would send a message plug in.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (8:40 am)

    My next phone will also be Droid based, so make that an available platform!

    Remote climate control of HVAC

    “Find My Volt” GPS locator

    Current SOC indicator

    I also like the idea of the Volt calling me to tell me I forgot to plug it in.

    How about an app that says “I am being stolen!”, if the car is being moved without my FOB nearby?

    And I think the oil dictator thing should be more of a game, where we get to throw barrels of oil at him!!!

    :-)


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (8:47 am)

    Basic stats
    climate control
    charge control
    and reminders like you said to alert if forgot to plug in, and if the temp drastically changes so you can know to preheat etc


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (8:50 am)

    There are already a *lot* of great ideas mentioned and there wasn’t one that I didn’t like. I’m not a Luddite, but I don’t own either of the devices mentioned, so I hope that a huge amount of the info is available to a USB drive, such that I can bring it indoors and keep the history on my computer. That would also help with the trip planning mentioned.
    Maybe for the parking lot situation they could build a little electronic arrow into the key fob that always points to your Volt – kinda like a Volt Compass – that changes from yellow (far away) to green as you’re nearing your car.
    I live in a small town, but still manage to lose my car in the Walmart lot (lol).
    Be well,
    Tagamet

    Let’s Just Get The Volts’ Wheels On The Road!!**********NPNS


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (8:54 am)

    All OnStar features should be available without OnStar (where possible).

    OnStar (a fee based service) is not required for most of the features mentioned. For example, owners should not have to pay to get stats on their vehicle.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (9:00 am)

    Hopefully they publish an API. I’m sick and tired of the iPhone as there are other phones out there in the world.

    Palm Pre and the Droid are both very good phones.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (9:00 am)

    OT Fox is having a piece on the volt soon (9 am)
    Be well,
    Tagamet

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    Dec 10th, 2009 (9:02 am)

    JeffB: All OnStar features should be available without OnStar (where possible).OnStar (a fee based service) is not required for most of the features mentioned. For example, owners should not have to pay to get stats on their vehicle.  

    This would be possible (I think) with the USB port mentioned.
    Be well,
    Tagamet

    Let’s Just Get The Volts’ Wheels On The Road!!**********NPNS


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (9:05 am)

    How about integrating what On-Star already has, but as a smart phone web app. If you leave your “Key” sitting in the car for example, an alert would be sent to inform you of this and if you want your doors locked remotely so you don’t have to return to the car until your ready. The On-Star webpage would allow you to unlock when you return. I’m not sure if this would help much if you left your smart phone AND the “Key” in the car. The more idiot proof something is, the smarter the idiots become. ;)

    How about letting 3rd parties create their own apps and upload for testing and release? This would save GM development $$$ and time.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (9:11 am)

    “Android is a mobile operating system running on the Linux kernel. It was initially developed by Android Inc., a firm later purchased by Google, and lately by the Open Handset Alliance. It allows developers to write managed code in the Java language, controlling the device via Google-developed Java libraries.”

    “The unveiling of the Android distribution on 5 November 2007 was announced with the founding of the Open Handset Alliance, a consortium of 47 hardware, software, and telecom companies devoted to advancing open standards for mobile devices. Google released most of the Android code under the Apache License, a free software and open source license.”

    In October, 2009, Gartner Inc. predicted that by 2012, Android would become the world’s second most popular smartphone platform, behind only the Symbian OS which powers Nokia phones very popular outside the US. Meanwhile, BlackBerry would fall from 2nd to 5th place, iPhone would remain in 3rd place, and Microsoft’s Windows Mobile would remain in 4th place.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Android

    GM, Prepare for Android!


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (9:11 am)

    As mentioned in several posts above, climate control is key. I would like to see an ap that sends real-time interior car temperature to your smartphone; this ap would tell you how long until your car is heated/cooled to the desired temperature, then would beep when it is reached. For those of us in cold climates, having the front and rear defrosters activated for snow and frost removal and seat warmers on is the ultimate!


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (9:14 am)

    kdawg: I’d also like a locate feature, so if I forget my parking spot, or someone else is driving my car I can locate it.What’s the bandwidth on OnStar?Is it equivalent to 3G?I think in may be interesting to be able to tap into the rear view camera on the car as well.If it could be streamed/recorded, it may help in capturing auto theives or be a deterrent to vandals.  

    You might be interested to know that OnStar already works with police to find and recover stolen vehicles. A few weeks ago someone stole a GM car equipped with OnStar in Albuquerque, NM, and in just a couple hours they had not only located it, and determined that the car was stationary, but also apprehended the thief. True story with a happy ending.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (9:20 am)

    Interesting news and ironic on the iPod App. Over a year ago I began drawing a plan for an iPhone app that would work in conjunction with the Volt to do exactly what you mention above. (ie charge Volt, review states of charge and diagnostics about the vehicle) Come to find out since I worked for Apple, Apple would hold all rights and privileges to the app. Course we are all looking to make a buck so I figured GM would like my development plans. Long story short, I wouldn’t make a dime on the app in the long run. But I am very glad the app is in the works. Good news


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (9:23 am)

    I would like the car to pick me up at the door if it is raining outside.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (9:26 am)

    All these ideas really seem to finalize many feasibilities, for example, remote long-term parking lot (outside) genset-running-safely with the backup cam able to “see outside” as an owner-enabled-function (at work). Or, at the airport long-term parking (covered parking if outside air circulation-permissable) OnStar-technicians*-live-person-monitoring-enabled genset function in extreme temperature situations to maintain pack conditions. (*Longitudinal feild studies interests). (Pardon the “run-on” sentence).

    (off to work.) Have a great day everyone!


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (9:26 am)

    Rashiid Amul: I would like the car to pick me up at the door if it is raining outside.  

    It’d have to unplug itself first though.
    Be well,
    Tagamet

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    Dec 10th, 2009 (9:27 am)

    JeffB: All OnStar features should be available without OnStar (where possible).OnStar (a fee based service) is not required for most of the features mentioned. For example, owners should not have to pay to get stats on their vehicle.  

    OnStar is required to get information out of the vehicle. The only other way is to use a USB connection.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (9:27 am)

    I like the idea of being able to plan routes before you get into the car — but how about on your PC? Either push it through a website or carry a flash drive out with you (will save time and be safer than fiddling with an in-dash system).

    Several have mentioned detecting theft — how about remote car power-down, or remote “make the lights flash and horn blow” to underscore to police that the vehicle is actually stolen?

    With this connectedness, a Volt may become too dangerous a target for any but the most foolish theives.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (9:31 am)

    Rashiid Amul: I would like the car to pick me up at the door if it is raining outside.  (Quote)

    This reminds me of a scene from The Jetsons;

    Mr. Spacely is falling from one of those futuristic buildings. He pulls a gizmo out of his pocket and shouts: “Calling my car! Calling my car!” On the roof, we see his car’s antenna ‘pinging,’ and it jets off. Moments later, it picks him up safely in mid-air.

    Sooner than we think?

    Come to think of it, the car promptly crashed itself into a building (hey, it was a cartoon after all). ;-)


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (9:40 am)

    OT Test drive on Fox next (9:39)
    Be well,
    Tagamet

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    Dec 10th, 2009 (9:44 am)

    Great. Text messages from my car. Just what I need. I can see it now…

    “Hey Jim, you drive the hottest car around (me), and you STILL can’t get the chicks. What gives? LMAO.”


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (9:47 am)

    alex_md: Whatever they do they should make it available for Android platform.  

    It should be a web app so all, or at least most, mobile platforms could run it.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (9:47 am)

    Generally positive, knowledgeable review.
    Gotta go.
    Be well,
    Tagamet

    Let’s Just Get The Volts’ Wheels On The Road!!**********NPNS


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (9:50 am)

    So the extra money I would spend to purchase this vehicle so I can save money on not buying as much gas I will have to spend on a phone and phone contract to be able to access these features outside of the vehicle?I think On Star should be free for the life of the car to the original purchaser, and we should not have additional costs to have these features. Keep in mind that good technology is easy for anyone to learn and operate.I realize the phone system is totally optional, but it would be great if some basic functions could be intergrated into the key device. Thanks


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (9:53 am)

    Zhackwyatt: Hopefully they publish an API. I’m sick and tired of the iPhone as there are other phones out there in the world.Palm Pre and the Droid are both very good phones.  (Quote)

    If they do, I’ll write a Zune app. :)


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (9:53 am)

    Tagamet: Generally positive, knowledgeable review.Gotta go.Be well,TagametLet’s Just Get The Volts’ Wheels On The Road!!**********NPNS   (Quote)

    Thanks for that quick alert. The reporter seemed determined to give the Volt good marks (and avoided the usual misconceptions), but the anchorman seemed equally determined to misunderstand/shoot the Volt down. Maybe that’s just a deliberate “good reporter / bad reporter” style for the benefit of the audience.

    Their only doubts at the end seemed to be about the cost, which is one of our biggest beefs here; but they do point out that it’s just the beginning and a great deal even initially for anyone wanting an electric car.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (10:00 am)

    Here’s a question/idea for GM. For a fee you can use OnStar as a car (mobile) phone service, right? So… make each OnStar system WiFi enabled so it can act as a wireless modem for a laptop in the car.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (10:05 am)

    Uhhh…. Lots of people have iPhones.
    I like the idea of my phone receiving data from my car.
    I don’t like the idea of someone else’s iPhone doing the same.
    Especially something important like programming my charging times, or worse, opening the doors!

    Whatever it is, it should not be activated with the VIN off the windshield! Sorry to be negative about this one. I used to do network security apps.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (10:14 am)

    Off Topic: Paint your own battery.

    http://www.youtube.com/v/QPTcQJPbGHw

    I don’t care what the researcher says, reams of paper can be pretty heavy (but I thought this was interesting).


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (10:17 am)

    Tim: “Android is a mobile operating system running on the Linux kernel. It was initially developed by Android Inc., a firm later purchased by Google, and lately by the Open Handset Alliance. It allows developers to write managed code in the Java language, controlling the device via Google-developed Java libraries.”“The unveiling of the Android distribution on 5 November 2007 was announced with the founding of the Open Handset Alliance, a consortium of 47 hardware, software, and telecom companies devoted to advancing open standards for mobile devices. Google released most of the Android code under the Apache License, a free software and open source license.”In October, 2009, Gartner Inc. predicted that by 2012, Android would become the world’s second most popular smartphone platform, behind only the Symbian OS which powers Nokia phones very popular outside the US. Meanwhile, BlackBerry would fall from 2nd to 5th place, iPhone would remain in 3rd place, and Microsoft’s Windows Mobile would remain in 4th place.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_AndroidGM, Prepare for Android!  (Quote)

    I don’t get where Gartner gets off calling Blackberry market share cratering that much. While I get that Android is gaining momentum, RIM is a ver strong company, with a very loyal customer base. They have been gaining market share at a very rapid pace since thier introduction, compared to Nokia which is rapidly loosing share in the wireless space. Doesn’t make sense.

    RIM has the business side of the wireless industry in a death grip, and they are making excellent gains in the consumer space. It just doesn’t add up. At this point, I agree with GM that iPhone and Blackberry are the most key platforms to develop for initially.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (10:23 am)

    Just a thought; 4G is gaining penetration and wireless data services of all stripes may be a lot cheaper in a couple of years.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (10:35 am)

    If only GM releases the phone API we can all create apps for all kind of platforms with all kind of gizmos, from car locator to angry oil dictator games (you need to drive another 50 electric miles to unlock the next level :-) )

    If we could not hack the instrument panel, then PLEEEASE at least give us the phone API!
    With an open API, and a developer community, GM will get lots of cool stuff FREE, promoting the Volt!


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (10:43 am)

    From the article: Having forgotten to plug in my MINI E several times, I can assure you this function will be useful.

    For me, this seals the deal of EREVs over pure BEVs.

    BEV proponents will compare this with running out of gas, but that is apples and oranges. Plugging in is much more frequent than going to the gas station. And with my typical state of mind as I arrive home at night, I can see this happening a lot. I don’t think I’m alone here.

    Bottom line: EREVs will go mainstream. Pure BEVs will remain a niche market for brave souls and early adopters.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (10:44 am)

    It’s got to have a security alert in the event that it is broken into. It would be nice to be able to type into the blackberry a secret owner’s code which would shut the car down. And another code to electrocute the intruder.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (10:46 am)

    Jackson: 4G is gaining penetration and wireless data services of all stripes may be a lot cheaper in a couple of years.

    OFDM is just better.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (10:46 am)

    All functions available to a secure device. I don’t want my Volt hacked!

    Functions: I would like to get the Volt screens on my phone or laptop and be able to set functions remotely with a similar (or same) UI. Skinnable UI and open API so I can write my own. Kind of like user mods in World of Warcraft. Actually, I would like to be able to skin the displays in the car. If I want analog gauges, I should be able to write a skin (or download someone elses) and apply it.

    Telemetry: velocity, direction, GPS. Basically anything available so I can tell what the heck my son is doing in the car. An inside camera (show me the vehicle occupants) would be helpful as well. Distance to nearest charging point. All cameras stream and ability to capture the images over time.

    Alarms: SoC, time/distance to empty, movement (such as towed without fob near), plugged in (or not) on off-peak or when stopped. If GPS says the Volt is home, it should be plugged in. Service interval alarms. All alarms settable so I don’t get spammed by the dang car.

    Datasets: Data should be open format such as XML. I should be able to easily do spreadsheets and statistical analysis from the data without writing programs to make it a real dataset. (Ever try to make data out of emails?)

    Fobs: Separate fobs for each driver so that their preferences can be set automatically. Seat position, mirror position, climate controls, sport mode, etc.

    Got a meeting. Be back later.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (10:50 am)

    I definitely like the idea of being able to access and control the climate system and locate my car from my mobile device. The GPS route push/pull idea is great too. Being notified of any unusual activity while you are away from the car could increase an owner’s peace of mind (though hopefully never needed…), and being able to access state of charge could be handy. All great ideas. Overall, I think that GM is beign very forward looking by building in this capability. Mobile devices are so ubiquitous these days, and they are doing more and more than ever.

    I agree that if the API were released, there would be a bunch of fun, crazy apps that GM might never have even thought of developed by the community, which would be great too.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (10:51 am)

    I want all of the interior speakers of the Volt to pivot outdoors so it could be a big boombox at the beach or wherever (and hopefully play the new Chevy Volt song for all to hear). Then the iPod / Blackberry interface could be used to control it. If that doesn’t come to be, then I’d just like it to be a way to remotely control the car, much like David Hasselhoff did with “Kit” :-)


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (10:55 am)

    Is this a Chevy or a Cady?? I think they are getting out of hand the volt should be more basic. Save all this BS for a Cady.

    What ever happend to Capt Jack and his

    No Power windows
    No Power doors
    No ****
    No ****
    No ***

    I think I am comming around to his side.

    Make the Volt a Chevy Not a Cady with Chevy name.

    Drop the un-necessary BS.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (10:57 am)

    Loboc: Basically anything available so I can tell what the heck my son is doing in the car. An inside camera

    Are you REALLY sure your want to SEE what your son does in the back seat? ;-)


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (10:58 am)

    coffeetime: I want all of the interior speakers of the Volt to pivot outdoors so it could be a big boombox at the beach or wherever (and hopefully play the new Chevy Volt song for all to hear). Then the iPod / Blackberry interface could be used to control it. If that doesn’t come to be, then I’d just like it to be a way to remotely control the car, much like David Hasselhoff did with “Kit”   (Quote)

    That would be KITT, , which stands for “Knight Industries Two Thousand”.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KITT


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (11:01 am)

    This thread is very fitting after yesterdays “We got lots of extra money how can we throw it away ” thread


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (11:01 am)

    Someone mentioned opening locks. It might also be useful to have the car remind you if you forget to lock the car when it is left for some time and then provide you the option of locking it remotely.

    An additional feature might also involve valet parking. The car could indicate to you if a valet has abused it or rifled through your glove compartment. :)

    Oh, in the same vein, with the idea of using the back up camera, it might be interesting if it snapped photos if it received a hit or jolt. I’ve had several instances of coming out to my car to find a dent and no note. At least a camera shot (and an instant text message) might help catch the person responsible.

    The list could just go on and on … might just be best to publish an API and let the open source market figure out what to do.

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    Dec 10th, 2009 (11:02 am)

    Rashiid Amul: I would like the car to pick me up at the door if it is raining outside.

    You know… since it has electric steering assist, electric power, & electric brakes… it *actually could* drive itself!!

    Need good security on the firmware update function!


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (11:12 am)

    I really like the posibilities this opens up. Hopefully they open up an API for developers to create custom apps. I think cool features like this will really help elevate the coolness and hopefully reduce some of the likely sticker shock from this car when it is officially released.

    Also, I can see that my dreams of owning my own K.I.T.T. are getting closer. I can see adds with David Hasselhoff talking to his Volt via his wristwatch on the horizon.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (11:15 am)

    Oh yea… since the Volt has electric power steering it is conceivable that a serious hacker could get in and use the backup camera to drive the Volt in reverse by remote control!

    Imagine seeing your Volt “steal itself”. GM is going to need VERY good software security on the Volt!


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (11:15 am)

    Lyle,

    I thought I was the only one that had a problem remebering to plug in the Mini-E.

    I take great comfort in knowing there are others that also forget and that I’m not suffering from pre-senior moments.

    I have found that when I am in my routine it is not a problem, but when I alter from my routine such as an 18 hour work day, or an unexpected trip in the late evening, that is when I forget to plug in.

    IMO it is most critical that there is a IPhone app and a web page that a person can check anytime to see what is going on with the charging.

    Thanks for your great post. This issue is another reason why the volt makes sense.
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    Dec 10th, 2009 (11:16 am)

    Starcast: Drop the un-necessary BS.

    The gen 1 Volt should be simple, dependable, and inexpensive. People have issues with wifi, iPhone, and other applications. This will be viewed generically as “car problems”. This will morph into, “Oh, that electric car is full of problems”.

    Simple and dependable on gen 1.

    =D~


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (11:17 am)

    The functions I would like to see in a Volt mobile phone application are none at all. It should be optional to keep the cost to the consumer down for those who are not interested in it. The additional security risk to the owner is unacceptable. Computers used to be secure until they were connected to the Internet. Now everybody is vulnerable. I’d love to be able to start someone’s car using my cell phone to waste their fuel. It would be funny. Or determine if someone is home by querying for the presence of a Volt in their garage before I rob the residence.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (11:18 am)

    Larry: You know… since it has electric steering assist, electric power, & electric brakes… it *actually could* drive itself!!Need good security on the firmware update function!  (Quote)

    Reminds me of of James Bond driving via handheld while hiding in the backseat…


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (11:19 am)

    My wish list….

    1: The Volt should know where it is (home) parked via GPS and send an email/sms if the user forgot to plug it in. (From Carcus1)
    2: Send email/sms to user when charge is full and stopped.
    3: When charging, Allow user to remotely turn on heater / AC prior to getting in.
    4: Go into full hibernate mode when my wife gets into the drivers seat!!!


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (11:22 am)

    Dave K.: The gen 1 Volt should be simple, dependable, and inexpensive. People have issues with wifi, iPhone, and other applications. This will be viewed generically as “car problems”. This will morph into, “Oh, that electric car is full of problems”.
    Simple and dependable on gen 1

    I wish. It sounds like they’re going to flood this car with a buncha “Shtuff”. I agree but sh|t man it’s gonna be shtuffed with schtuff.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (11:28 am)

    Starcast: Is this a Chevy or a Cady?? I think they are getting out of hand the volt should be more basic. Save all this BS for a Cady.What ever happend to Capt Jack and his No Power windowsNo Power doorsNo ****No ****No ***I think I am comming around to his side.Make the Volt a Chevy Not a Cady with Chevy name.Drop the un-necessary BS.  (Quote)

    =======================

    What? Only Caddy drivers get to have any fun??????

    If you and the Captain want the bares bones models, I have no problem with that, but I still want SuperChevy!!!!

    :-)


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (11:29 am)

    CaptJackSparrow: 2: Send email/sms to user when charge is full and stopped.

    Please, no. I HATE to be waken up by an SMS-beep-beep 2:45 in the morning. “Who the &%#* is messing me in the middle of the night?! Oh… my car.”


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (11:30 am)

    CaptJackSparrow: I wish. It sounds like they’re going to flood this car with a buncha “Shtuff”. I agree but sh|t man it’s gonna be shtuffed with schtuff.  (Quote)

    Most people don’t buy base cars anymore. It would be wierder to the public if it was “basic and reliable” than if it was stuffed to the gills with gizmos. Most basic electronics are very reliable anyway. Try selling a car without power windows anymore. Good luck. Connectivity is becoming ubiquitous. GM is right to get on board.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (11:31 am)

    Bryan: The functions I would like to see in a Volt mobile phone application are none at all. It should be optional to keep the cost to the consumer down for those who are not interested in it. The additional security risk to the owner is unacceptable. Computers used to be secure until they were connected to the Internet. Now everybody is vulnerable. I’d love to be able to start someone’s car using my cell phone to waste their fuel. It would be funny. Or determine if someone is home by querying for the presence of a Volt in their garage before I rob the residence.  (Quote)

    Don’t cars currently have remote start? I’ve never heard of a rash of remote start bandit’s terrorizing the city. Also, I’m not sure how this connects to the “internet” but I would assume it uses on-star and then would be similar to cell-phone connectivity. If that is the case then “querying for someone to be home” wouldn’t be any more of a problem then the better way of checking if someones mobile phone is in the house.

    Also, I don’t see this being a huge cost factor for the car. It shouldn’t require anything additional other than software. So the amortorized cost should be low once development is ramped up.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (11:35 am)

    “What functions would you like to see in a Volt mobile phone application? We might just have a chance to influence it.”

    How about a text message when the car is fully charged? That would be very useful. Also, a text message when the batteries are at 70% charge.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (11:41 am)

    Rashiid Amul: I would like the car to pick me up at the door if it is raining outside.  

    There used to be a Pontiac that could do that…
    real-kitt-start-scene-754563.jpg


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (11:41 am)

    I’m not thrilled about any of the applications but with technology you never know how much you’ll like something until you’ve tried it. Until then you’re stuck in the “I never had this before so why do I need it now” mode.

    More ways to communicate with your car can’t be a bad thing.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (11:46 am)

    I’m hoping they offer an interface for my Bomar Brain. The things I could do.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (11:46 am)

    I think even if GM does NOT release the API, it will still be backwards engineered and made public.
    Thus the developer community and third party programs WILL be there, either way.
    Thus GM might as well get some goodwill by making the API public.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (11:49 am)

    Mike-o-Matic:
    There used to be a Pontiac that could do that…

    ADDENDUM: OK, I read the rest of the replies after Rashiid’s, and it turns out I have unwittingly contributed to an alarming number of KITT references. My apologies!!


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (11:52 am)

    The locator feature would be incredible. Think of how it would change a car thiefs mind if there was a sticker in the window that said “This car has a remote beacon” or something. It would be a sure ticket to jail to steal the Volt. I don’t even know if it would be all that easy to hot wire it like a conventional car either. But hopefully eventually this feature becomes common place enough that no one would be stupid enough to steal GM’s car ever again either after wisening up or getting thrown in jail, either way, they won’t get be stealing them.

    Just put as many features as possible. A few weeks of developers time will be benefiting millions of car owners. There’s so many little things like this that the dinosaur automakers need to realize is easy value they can add to their cars that for a few man hours worth of investment would change the face of the industry.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (12:01 pm)

    Michael: You might be interested to know that OnStar already works with police to find and recover stolen vehicles. A few weeks ago someone stole a GM car equipped with OnStar in Albuquerque, NM, and in just a couple hours they had not only located it, and determined that the car was stationary, but also apprehended the thief. True story with a happy ending.  (Quote)

    Yes, i’m familiar w/that and also the remote slow down where they can stop a car that is being pursued by the cops. Cool stuff.

    My thinking was if people knew a camera was watching them, they may think twice before keying/egging a car.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (12:10 pm)

    Jim in PA: Here’s a question/idea for GM. For a fee you can use OnStar as a car (mobile) phone service, right? So… make each OnStar system WiFi enabled so it can act as a wireless modem for a laptop in the car.  (Quote)

    I’ve never understood why cars didn’t come standard with hard drives and WiFi years after the technology had been around (or at least the option to have it factory installed). You’re finally starting to see hard drives in cars.. but still no Wifi. A huge percentage of people have a personal Wifi network at home. There are hot-spots everywhere too. The posibilites would be endless.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (12:16 pm)

    Tibor: Please, no. I HATE to be waken up by an SMS-beep-beep 2:45 in the morning. “Who the &%#* is messing me in the middle of the night?! Oh… my car.”

    Naw maann…
    That’s the “Get outta date free” page. You’re out with a buddy and your the “wing man” and you’re stuck with a girl you know you can’t afford :http://www.grimmemennesker.dk/ugly-people-484.htm
    Then your car sends you the message and you say “that’s the office emergency, I have to go….”

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (12:17 pm)

    Jackson: Off Topic: Paint your own battery.http://www.youtube.com/v/QPTcQJPbGHwI don’t care what the researcher says, reams of paper can be pretty heavy (but I thought this was interesting).  (Quote)

    Here’s some detail (2007)

    http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/14/rennselaer-university-researchers-develop-nanotube-paper-batteries-powered-by-human-sweat-blood-and-even-urine.html


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (12:32 pm)

    The app I need.
    I’m close to home and falling to sleep.

    The car takes over.
    It brings me home,
    tucks me into bed,
    kisses me on the forehead,
    tells me it loves me,
    and plugs itself into a wall socket to enjoy one hell of a good charge.

    Oh wait, that’s what my wife’s for. Nevermind.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (12:35 pm)

    kdawg: why cars didn’t come standard with hard drives

    If it’s a solid-state drive, then ok. Mechanical HDD are not so reliable as the rest of the car.

    It’s not the HDD that’s expensive, it’s the interfaces and software. With WiFi interface, you are talking the equivalent of a smart phone or netbook. Adding about $200 to the cost (not price) of the car.

    Believe it or not, people still select base models because of sticker shock or financing hassles. Just bluetooth alone is a $115 option on Malibu.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (12:48 pm)

    This is why a solar system will be useful. You can have advanced functions like this and not worry about running down your car battery when say on a trip or when you are away from charging infrastructure for a few days (or longer).

    Solar makes sense.

    P.S. How would you like to be in full contact with your Volt when on a business trip to Europe, for example. You can monitor the health of the battery, have advanced security systems letting you know if there is a problem so you can call the police and most importantly, your battery will be all topped off and ready to drive you home, in full electric mode, when you return.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (1:02 pm)

    For everyone’s safety: One that turns off your phone when it’s inside a moving Volt!


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (1:03 pm)

    Jackson:
    Thanks for that quick alert.The reporter seemed determined to give the Volt good marks (and avoided the usual misconceptions), but the anchorman seemed equally determined to misunderstand/shoot the Volt down.Maybe that’s just a deliberate “good reporter / bad reporter” style for the benefit of the audience.Their only doubts at the end seemed to be about the cost, which is one of our biggest beefs here; but they do point out that it’s just the beginning and a great deal even initially for anyone wanting an electric car.  

    That was my read too, though I thought that the “moderator’s” questions showed a total lack of understanding. The driver on the other hand was darn well informed. I guess that’s just part of the hill that the Volt’s will have to climb. Getting the accurate info to the (currently largely ignorant) masses. Present company excepted!
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    Dec 10th, 2009 (1:08 pm)

    kdawg:
    Yes, i’m familiar w/that and also the remote slow down where they can stop a car that is being pursued by the cops.Cool stuff.My thinking was if people knew a camera was watching them, they may think twice before keying/egging a car.  

    GM could put a sticker on the Volts that says “CAUTION: This car is watching you!”(g) Kinda like the home security systems do.
    Be well,
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    Dec 10th, 2009 (1:10 pm)

    Rashiid Amul: The app I need.
    I’m close to home and falling to sleep.The car takes over.
    It brings me home,
    tucks me into bed,
    kisses me on the forehead,
    tells me it loves me,
    and plugs itself into a wall socket to enjoy one hell of a good charge.Oh wait, that’s what my wife’s for.Nevermind.  

    Funny! I guess then the Volt is just MADE for folks like CaptnJack.
    Be well,
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    kgurnsey:
    I don’t get where Gartner gets off calling Blackberry market share cratering that much.While I get that Android is gaining momentum, RIM is a ver strong company, with a very loyal customer base.They have been gaining market share at a very rapid pace since thier introduction, compared to Nokia which is rapidly loosing share in the wireless space.Doesn’t make sense.RIM has the business side of the wireless industry in a death grip, and they are making excellent gains in the consumer space.It just doesn’t add up.At this point, I agree with GM that iPhone and Blackberry are the most key platforms to develop for initially.  

    Agreed. Blackberry owner here, iPhone doesn’t cut it for productivity with me.

    Jackson: Just a thought; 4G is gaining penetration and wireless data services of all stripes may be a lot cheaper in a couple of years.  

    How do you figure? AOL costed like $25/month back in the day. Now we pay $50/month for Fios.

    Loboc: Basically anything available so I can tell what the heck my son is doing in the car. An inside camera (show me the vehicle occupants) would be helpful as well.

    That is SO creepy when you combine those two sentences together.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (1:17 pm)

    Tibor: It would be great to get the car’s location… and no, not when it is in my garage.
    The feature would be great to have at large parking places: your car is located 150 meters

    I like that idea “Find my Volt” for the cell phone as well. I also would like to add it to also “Find my VOB”. You can’t drive the volt with out the vob.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (1:21 pm)

    Let’s add all the electronic hookups the Volt can handle. The price of the Volt sneaks up to $45,599 sticker.

    $45,599 + tax, registration, fees = $50,598

    less $7500 Federal tax credit = $43,098

    less $1000 State tax credit = $42,098

    A Volt for $43,089? I don’t think so.

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    kdawg: I’ve never understood why cars didn’t come standard with hard drives and WiFi years after the technology had been around (or at least the option to have it factory installed). You’re finally starting to see hard drives in cars.. but still no Wifi. A huge percentage of people have a personal Wifi network at home. There are hot-spots everywhere too. The posibilites would be endless.  (Quote)

    Actually, a LOT of FORD products do have WiFi…………Plus, the 2010 DURAMAX has bluetooth connectivity. It’s an incredibly exciting time in the industry, FINALLY………..:)


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (1:43 pm)

    I want a standard API (Applications Programming Interface) so I can control it from my home automation system. I don’t want another power thing to manually control, I’ve been working hard to automatically control things like that through my OWN system. Not controlled by the power company, either, I really do NOT want other people (especially corporations) controlling my stuff, no matter how well intentioned they seem.

    Besides, I have neither an iPhone nor a Blackberry. I intend to make my Pocket PC powered HTC Sprint phone last until:
    1) CDMA/WiMAX Android phones are available (preferably rooted)
    2) Sprint kicks me off my nearly 10 year old cheaptastico plan :)


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    Rashiid Amul: I would like the car to pick me up at the door if it is raining outside.  

    …and go pickup Chinese food for you too! ;-)


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (1:57 pm)

    Dave K.: Let’s add all the electronic hookups the Volt can handle. The price of the Volt sneaks up to $45,599 sticker.

    $45,599 + tax, registration, fees = $50,598

    less $7500 Federal tax credit = $43,098

    less $1000 State tax credit = $42,098

    A Volt for $43,089? I don’t think so.

    =D~

    I’ll be very surprised if you can get a Volt out the door for less than 50k after dealer markups and full options (no stripped-down models for the first run). Even with tax incentives.

    btw, as the Cap’n so often reminds us. Tax credits don’t come off the top before financing. They come off your taxes next year! You will be financing (or paying cash, whatever) the full negotiated price plus TTL.

    I don’t know exactly how it will work (any CPAs here?), but, if you didn’t pay 7500 + whatever in taxes, I don’t believe you can claim more than you paid in the first place. In other words, your credit may be limited by your income tax paid minus total other credits (like your mortgage interest credit, dependent credits, other eco-credits, etc.).

    This tax credit thing could be quite a shocking let down.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (2:19 pm)

    FLASH: Actually, a LOT of FORD products do have WiFi…………Plus, the 2010 DURAMAX has bluetooth connectivity. It’s an incredibly exciting time in the industry, FINALLY………..:)  (Quote)

    Really!? I guess I missed that. We are finally reaching the year 2000 in the automotive industry.

    The posts above about the costs…. I can get a mini PC for $198 from Wamart with a solid state drive, wifi, all the bells & whisltes. Why they can’t just throw one in every car.. standard? I hate doing aftermarket hack jobs.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (2:43 pm)

    Looks like more WiFi to come. I see myself streaming Pandora as I drive.

    Motor Trend car show features low-cost fun
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    Tecnology highlights include in-vehicle Wi-Fi, available in new Cadillac, Chrysler and Dodges; cars that parallel park themselves; and blind-spot monitoring, which alerts drivers of Fords, Chryslers and General Motors Corp. vehicles if they are in danger of crashing. Also available from Ford is MyKey technology, which allows parents of new drivers to limit the speed and radio volume of their teens’ cars.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (2:45 pm)

    Starcast: Is this a Chevy or a Cady?? I think they are getting out of hand the volt should be more basic. Save all this BS for a Cady.What ever happend to Capt Jack and his No Power windowsNo Power doorsNo ****No ****No ***I think I am comming around to his side.Make the Volt a Chevy Not a Cady with Chevy name.Drop the un-necessary BS.  (Quote)

    They are getting out of hand, and we all knew this would happen.
    I think they could leave off the rear tail-lights.
    It is still perfectly legal to use hand/arm signals.
    That would save a few hundred bucks off the price!


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (2:51 pm)

    I’d like to hear my iPhone songs through the cars speakers without having to plug in speaker wires. I’d like to be able to control my iPhone music from the car’s dashboard, and maybe even see the album art stored in my iPhone on the cars dashboard.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (3:01 pm)

    Tagamet: Maybe for the parking lot situation they could build a little electronic arrow into the key fob that always points to your Volt – kinda like a Volt Compass – that changes from yellow (far away) to green as you’re nearing your car.
    I live in a small town, but still manage to lose my car in the Walmart lot (lol).

    I absolutely love this idea. I’m always getting lost in parking lots. (I have zero sense of direction.)


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (3:02 pm)

    Tagamet: Funny! I guess then the Volt is just MADE for folks like CaptnJack.

    Also have a hologram of Megan Fox!!!
    Yeah baby! thats what i’m takinbout!!!


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (3:05 pm)

    Timaaayyy!!!: For everyone’s safety: One that turns off your phone when it’s inside a moving Volt!  (Quote)

    +1 Great idea


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (3:07 pm)

    I will be using AER miles almost exclusively and will be concerned with stale gas. I will probably be using the programmed function to burn stale gas on monthly basis or have it wait till I have the rare long drive. Unfortunately the preprogrammed time might be when I travel into a downtown area where gas is much more expensive. I would like an app to be able to “burn gas now” at the beginning of my long trips so I can control when to get the new tank of gas instead of at the preprogrammed interval. You might even build a an ap so that on long trips the gas is burned ahead of time at the most efficient rate and is empty with higher reserve state of battery charge at the lowest priced gas found by your gps when your programmed your route.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (4:33 pm)

    When the Volt is parked in its home garage (GPS) and is turned off with no one in car (seatbuckle switch), it would start a 2 minute timer. After 2 minutes, if not pluged in and SOC is less than 50%, it would sound its horn for 1 minute! After the second event, you would not forget even if dog tired. :)


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (4:33 pm)

    These wholesale firings are not about quality or negligent product. There haven’t been any jillions recalls. Customers love Chevy just as much. So what’s up? Why the wholesale senior executive firings? The answer Whitacre wants us to swallow is GM needs younger execs. Out with the old… and … in with the new. Decades of top notch experience flushed right down the drain. You know — if your company fired summarily all its over 55 (or 65) year old execs the Administration would have alphabet soup jumping all over you.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (4:33 pm)

    The one feature I want is wireless recharging.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (4:48 pm)

    Herm: The one feature I want is wireless recharging.  (Quote)

    They’re working on it Herm. Its just that anyone who passes through the energy beam is immediately electrocuted,
    i glad to see everyone is happy with the hi tech features, maybe we’ll all appreciate the cost a little better. This is definitely a futuristic car with an appropriate price tag.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (5:14 pm)

    Has anyone mentioned lock/unlock like Zipcar?? That is SO nice to have when say, you lock your keys in it, leave without locking it, or you drive to the NYC Marathon to run next to Lyle Denis, but you don’t want to keep the keys in your pocket!!


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (5:31 pm)

    Loboc: Dave K.: Let’s add all the electronic hookups the Volt can handle. The price of the Volt sneaks up to $45,599 sticker.$45,599 + tax, registration, fees = $50,598less $7500 Federal tax credit = $43,098less $1000 State tax credit = $42,098A Volt for $43,089? I don’t think so.=D~I’ll be very surprised if you can get a Volt out the door for less than 50k after dealer markups and full options (no stripped-down models for the first run). Even with tax incentives.btw, as the Cap’n so often reminds us. Tax credits don’t come off the top before financing. They come off your taxes next year! You will be financing (or paying cash, whatever) the full negotiated price plus TTL.
    I don’t know exactly how it will work (any CPAs here?), but, if you didn’t pay 7500 + whatever in taxes, I don’t believe you can claim more than you paid in the first place. In other words, your credit may be limited by your income tax paid minus total other credits (like your mortgage interest credit, dependent credits, other eco-credits, etc.).
    This tax credit thing could be quite a shocking let down.  

    I believe this is a “refundable” tax credit, which means you get every dime no matter how much you pay in taxes. But I’m not 100%…


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (5:47 pm)

    alex_md: Whatever they do they should make it available for Android platform.  

    I agree Alex,

    JC

    NPNS


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (6:10 pm)

    LauraM: Tagamet: Maybe for the parking lot situation they could build a little electronic arrow into the key fob that always points to your Volt – kinda like a Volt Compass – that changes from yellow (far away) to green as you’re nearing your car.
    I live in a small town, but still manage to lose my car in the Walmart lot (lol).

    I absolutely love this idea. I’m always getting lost in parking lots. (I have zero sense of direction.)

    Thanks LauraM.. It would seem really easy to implement – the technology is already “out there”. The one downside would be that after widespread adoption of the Volt everyone in the mall lot will be walking around with their heads down to monitor their Volt Compass (lol).
    Be well,
    Tagamet

    Let’s Just Get The Volts’ Wheels On The Road!!**********NPNS


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (6:32 pm)

    Tough room today.
    Even the little jokes are getting pounded on.

    No matter.

    I’m still daydreaming of the Cadillac Converj I saw yesterday at the Auto Show:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81nxr9Vv15M


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (7:33 pm)

    CorvetteGuy: I think they could leave off the rear tail-lights.

    CorvetteGuy, it appears you feel the added cost of bells and whistles is meaningless to the buyer. And you have the right to feel this way.

    Loboc: I’ll be very surprised if you can get a Volt out the door for less than 50k after dealer markups and full options

    Last month I forecast a price of about $46,000 per Chevy for the first 6000 California Volt units. Your target of $50,000 is not out of the question for early adopters. Many formally interested consumers will move to the sideline and see how the $50k sedan pans out. Isn’t this how it always is with new technology? Let’s change the name to Voltverj and make it an even $60k.

    =D~


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (7:37 pm)

    Brian: You might even build a an ap so that on long trips the gas is burned ahead of time at the most efficient rate and is empty with higher reserve state of battery charge at the lowest priced gas found by your gps when your programmed your route.

    And when you get there and see the highest gas prices of your life, the attendant will smile and say, whoops did I forget to change those numbers again?


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (8:16 pm)

    Dave K.: Simple and dependable on gen 1.

    11:16 AM

    Amen! KISS and “What ain’t there don’t give you no trouble.”

    Althought I’m the one who keeps saying that they need to get rid of the Lutz generation and get some younger (MUCH) product planners. My younger son was just complaining that he wants to add some more functions to his fiance’s Mini, but can’t because the USB capacity or whatever is all used up. So maybe I just have to live with it, LOL.

    Note that I’m BAAAACCK! I got one of my 20 something parts guys to help me install a new browser, LMAO.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (8:21 pm)

    Welcome back, Noel.
    Be well,
    Tagamet

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    Dec 10th, 2009 (8:29 pm)

    Brian: I will be using AER miles almost exclusively and will be concerned with stale gas. I will probably be using the programmed function to burn stale gas on monthly basis or have it wait till I have the rare long drive. Unfortunately the preprogrammed time might be when I travel into a downtown area where gas is much more expensive. I would like an app to be able to “burn gas now” at the beginning of my long trips so I can control when to get the new tank of gas instead of at the preprogrammed interval. You might even build a an ap so that on long trips the gas is burned ahead of time at the most efficient rate and is empty with higher reserve state of battery charge at the lowest priced gas found by your gps when your programmed your route.  

    Hey Brian,
    You don’t have to worry at all about stale gas if you use a “Top Tier” rated gasoline. (I like Shell 87). It’s those discount gasolines that can not claim to be “Top Tier” that will go stale on you fairly quickly.

    You are also not saving a single penny by getting *non*-”Top Tier” gasolines, because your PCM immediately knows the quality of gasoline you have put into the tank because of the changes in “Calculated Engine Load” as well as the Oxygen Sensor parameters.

    All “Flex Fuel” vehicles know the precise amount of ethanol percentage in the fuel. (Generally speaking, I don’t like the *absolute total energy returns* on Ethanol whatsoever). I recommend just using Shell 87 (not 89 or higher), because you do not want the extra additives settling out over a long period of time.) (But I am open to understanding if GM’s new Ethanol investment has a better *absolute energy return* for its new process for making Ethanol.)

    (The scary thing about corn ethanol is that the states like Nebraska will have emptied their aquifers in about 20 to 30 years making a fuel that uses slightly more fossil energy than its’ yield. Some fertilizer companies are the ones making all the money on this. The distance you go on ethanol is 40% shorter than with gasoline, and you are paying just 15% less than gasoline, which is **NOT** a good price for the consumer in the third place.)


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (8:43 pm)

    Dan Petit: (The scary thing about corn ethanol is that the states like Nebraska will have emptied their aquifers in about 20 to 30 years making a fuel that uses slightly more fossil energy than its’ yield. Some fertilizer companies are the ones making all the money on this. The distance you go on ethanol is 40% shorter than with gasoline, and you are paying just 15% less than gasoline, which is **NOT** a good price for the consumer in the third place.)

    (Quote)

    I’ve never been a fan of food to fuel conversion, but isn’t cellulosic, non-food conversion a much better deal? If the Costkata (sp?) process can take things out of trash headed for the landfill and change it to ethanol at a reasonable cost, it sounds like a good deal.
    Be well,
    Tagamet

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    Noel Park: Dave K.: Simple and dependable on gen 1.

    11:16 AM

    Amen! KISS and “What ain’t there don’t give you no trouble.”

    If the Volt comes in at over $40 sticker then GM will have handed the lead right back to Toyota and Nissan. I drove 20 miles on the freeway this week and saw no less than 8 Prius. This is 8 in less than 1/2 an hour. Pushing the Malibu, Escalade and Traverse isn’t going to cut it in 2012. GM needs to make it clear that a clean version of the Volt will be inexpensive and available in 2012. After all the engineering effort and grass roots support. It would be a shame to see GM blow this potential home run. Don’t wait until mid 2010 to offer a price range. Do it now. If the public wants a loaded Volt for $50k then so be it. Many of us poor folk have a problem with OPEC and simply wish to get away from using foreign oil.

    =D~


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (8:53 pm)

    Tagamet:
    I’ve never been a fan of food to fuel conversion, but isn’t cellulosic, non-food conversion a much better deal? If the Costkata (sp?) process can take things out of trash headed for the landfill and change it to ethanol at a reasonable cost, it sounds like a good deal.
    Be well,
    TagametLet’s Just Get The Volts’ Wheels On The Road!!**********NPNS   

    Yes, Absolutely, TAG!!

    If trash can be safely converted to treasure, then that would be worth solving two problems at the same time. If biomass were to be prevented from turning into methane instead of being proactively converted into a substance (ethanol) that produces carbon dioxide (via internal combustion) instead, then you certainly have an *absolute gain against greenhouse effect* (a carbon-creditation even) by preventing the production of methane. I’ve heard a wide range of descriptions of the greenhouse factor for methane compared to carbon dioxide as anywhere between nine times as bad as carbon dioxide to twenty times as bad as carbon dioxide.
    Excellent point of reminder, TAG! Thanks!!


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (9:03 pm)

    Dan Petit:
    Yes, Absolutely, TAG!! If trash can be safely converted to treasure, then that would be worth solving two problems at the same time.If biomass were to be prevented from turning into methane instead of being proactively converted into a substance (ethanol) that produces carbon dioxide (via internal combustion) instead, then you certainly have an *absolute gain against greenhouse effect* (a carbon-creditation even) by preventing the production of methane.I’ve heard a wide range of descriptions of the greenhouse factor for methane compared to carbon dioxide as anywhere between nine times as bad as carbon dioxide to twenty times as bad as carbon dioxide. Excellent point of reminder, TAG! Thanks!!  

    The phone rang and I couldn’t edit an unclear statement in time.
    I meant to say that converting anything that would otherwise decay producing methane into ethanol that would ultimately produce carbon dioxide instead, might be a very positive net gain against the greenhouse factor of far worse methane.


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    Dec 10th, 2009 (9:46 pm)

    Dan Petit:
    The phone rang and I couldn’t edit an unclear statement in time.I meant to say that converting anything that would otherwise decay producing methane into ethanol that would ultimately produce carbon dioxide instead, might be a very positive net gain against the greenhouse factor of far worse methane.  

    Even without the edit, that’s what you communicated.
    The neat part about the Coskata process is that it can be built right on the landfill site and therefore has all it’s raw materials delivered. It saves (or at least doesn’t require) additional transport of the raw materials.
    Be well,
    Tagamet

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    Dec 10th, 2009 (10:39 pm)

    Feature ideas:

    - Set the car to heat up at a specific time, especially if it’s still plugged into the wall. Or trigger manually a few minutes before you leave to go somewhere.
    - Same idea for air conditioning.
    - Alert you if any of the lights are left on in the car — anything that might drain the battery.
    - Alert you if you have left the car unlocked, plus ability to lock the car.
    - Allow you to flash the lights and/or tweet the horn for when you’re looking for your car in the parking lot.
    - Allow you to unlock the doors for the rare case where you’re in the driveway and have your cell phone but not your keys. Or cases where you lock your keys in the trunk, etc. Or cases where your kids have locked the keys in the trunk and phone you for help.
    - Be able to view the amount of charge in the battery, the amount of gas in the tank, and the estimated number of miles that you could drive before running out of both battery and gas. Ability to enter a city or address and have it tell you whether you will be able to drive there without fuelling up, and if so, with how much reserve.
    - Be able to trigger the OnStar emergency service for cases where you have been taken captive (etc) and wouldn’t be able to make a phone call to 911 without being caught. Or cases where someone has stolen your vehicle.
    - Be able to download and view statistics such as:
    – Average MPG for any time period
    – Gas burned for any time period
    – Electricity used for any time period
    – Estimated $/mile for any time period
    – Estimated $ saved compared to running a gas engine for any time period
    – Have the software calculate the optimum amount of gas to keep in the tank to minimize the weight of the car but still get you where you need to go, given your typical driving history.
    – View graphical data that communicates the performance of the battery over time. Is the battery standing up? Wearing out?
    - Get alerts when an oil change is recommended.
    - Get alerts when different various levels of vehicle service are recommended.
    - Get alerts if/when GM releases important information about the Volt, such as recalls, etc.
    - Ability to see, on Google Maps, where the car currently is, and what speed it is being driven at.
    - Have your driving data analyzed and summarized for you in terms of what your driving style is like and how you can improve your MPG. For example, do you accelerate too quickly? Do you drive too fast on the highway? etc.
    - Wirelessly play your music library through your Volt sound system.
    - Use text-to-speech to play appointment reminders through the Volt sound system.
    - Be able to set reminders that are triggered by a location so that if you drive within a certain radius of that location, the reminder will play through the Volt sound system via text-to-speech. For example, “Reminder to pick up some batteries at Circuit City”.
    - Be able to opt in to receive an in-car notification if you are about to drive past a gas station who’s prices are in the best 10% of the nearest 10 gas stations.
    - Provide an API via the iPhone/Blackberry software so that custom software can be written for the iPhone/Blackberry to control car functionality, etc. For example, a custom app could be written to open the garage door when you pull into the driveway. The possibilities are endless.


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    What about Windows phone. I have a windows phone and I do not plan to change it anytime soon.


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    Viewing tire pressure on the iPhone/Blackberry screen could be a life saver and definitely a “fuel” saving idea. It could also provide feedback while filling the tires, so you didn’t have to start the car and check the indicator on the dash. This would be handy if you don’t have an accurate gauge to check pressure manually.


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    I am IdiotVolt Fan 1: What about Windows phone.I have a windows phone and I do not plan to change it anytime soon.  

    Don’t they have to be rebooted often?


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    Dec 11th, 2009 (7:11 am)

    Lyle, you’ve done it again, unleashed all of our wild imaginations.

    CaptJackSparrow: I wish. It sounds like they’re going to flood this car with a buncha “Shtuff”. I agree but sh|t man it’s gonna be shtuffed with schtuff.

    As interesting as some of this is, security has to be close to the top of the priority list. Bloated and inconsistent apps are also a concern. Openness is good (up to a point). So, how about the abilityof the Volt to send an email message (SMS, etc.) that can go to a phone or my regular email address. If a message is to be sent TO the car then it must go through OnStar and they act as a firewall to protect both car and us. Whadaya think? This is kind of how the Kindle works. And you have to authorize each email address that can send stuff to your Kindle and then there is a $.50 charge for each message.
    Geez and I thought that I was the only one with unbridled enthusiasm :) .


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    Dec 11th, 2009 (8:32 am)

    kdawg: Looks like more WiFi to come.I see myself streaming Pandora as I drive.Motor Trend car show features low-cost fun

    1. I can stream Pandora now. My Palm Pre streams Pandora over cellular data (or WiFi) and in my Outlander I can stream that audio over Bluetooth to the car stereo. There’s no reason why On* couldn’t get this kind of enhancement in the future.

    2. WiFi in a moving car would not work very well. WiFi does not jump from access point to access point as cleanly as cell phones can jump from tower to tower.


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    I for one welcome our new skynet overlords.


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    Dec 11th, 2009 (11:25 am)

    Dave K.: If the Volt comes in at over $40 sticker then GM will have handed the lead right back to Toyota and Nissan.

    8:50 pm

    Alas, too bloody true. If it’s 50K, I’ll just drive the Impala until it drops, and then reassess. I wnat to be an early adopter, for all the reasons that all of us have cited over the months, but there is a limit.


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    Dec 11th, 2009 (11:31 am)

    Tagamet: Welcome back, Noel.

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    Thanks pal. I appreciate it.


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    Dec 11th, 2009 (11:48 am)

    Wirelwess charging is possible, but due to current limitation, the time to rechange will be longer. Build a two part transformer, where the main core is in the garage floor,and build a coil under the Volts’s floor. Using two-way inductive transmissions, the Volt will tell the charger to turn on. The charger will pass AC through the garage floor and up to the Volt’s floor. Then the Volt will tell the charger to turn off after the battery is fully charged, or when you turn the key to “start” the car and drive off. It will be expensive but it is safer then any other method. If you like to live cheaper, then use the old Aurora slot-car method, where the Volt will swing out two flat wire brushes to make contact to two metal tabs on the floor. Or put the brushes on the Volt bumper and the contacts on the wall. This second method will allow the Volt to “plug itself in”.


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    Dec 11th, 2009 (5:10 pm)

    Starcast: +1 Great idea  (Quote)

    Thanks, StarCast. I’ll leave it to the engineers to make it work–for every new car sold! For example, how to distinguish between the driver and a passenger…


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    Dec 11th, 2009 (5:47 pm)

    Rashiid Amul:
    Don’t they have to be rebooted often?  

    Nope, I have a Windows Mobile phone (Touch Pro 2) and I haven’t rebooted it (restarting) ever since I purchased it. I bought it in mid-August. It’s actually quite reliable.

    GM, please make this available for Windows Mobile and Android too. They are huge segments of the market. Better yet, make it available via Web, so that all mobile phones can access it. If the browser detects a dumbphone, show a scaled down version of options and features presented.


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    Dec 11th, 2009 (10:00 pm)

    Tibor: It would be great to get the car’s location… and no, not when it is in my garage.The feature would be great to have at large parking places: your car is located 150 meters THAT way.The Volt has GPS, my iPhone has GPS…  (Quote)

    Unfortunately, it is difficult if not impossible to get GPS signals in most parking garages.

    Respectfully,

    Dr. Ibringdoh


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    Dec 12th, 2009 (7:41 pm)

    GM Volt Data systems Designers:

    Three things to consider:

    1) a Bluetooth data dump to any BT data device – containing a subset of your most useful vehicle data: mpg, ttl mi, ttl kWh, AER miles, SOC etc. For admitted geeks to track performance specs and share with geek friends.

    2) A social network via Fbook or similar, that allows Volt owners to compare stats, stories, tips, and gossip.

    Prii owners (me) “related” to each other because the vehicle reflected our values. A similar effect will develop with Voltites. This is worth 100Ms in free good will. Viral word of mouth will drive sales faster than advertising can – this is a key concept for that purpose.

    3) A “Plug-Ins” software box where owners can install third party plug-ins that benignly access a portion of the vehicle’s data set. e.g. a graphic display illustrating gallons of oil, gas, dollars “saved” in EV mode (barrels, tanks, trucks, coins, etc).

    This accomplishes a couple things: you access huge software talent pool, encourages attention from tech-savvy population. Potential ancillary revenue by license sales to plug-in developers. Grows an “after market” for EV add-ons and accessories.


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    Dec 13th, 2009 (3:33 am)

    tigers wife could have used this feature….

    Arnab, Delhi..

    Tibor: It would be great to get the car’s location… and no, not when it is in my garage.
    The feature would be great to have at large parking places: your car is located 150 meters THAT way.
    The Volt has GPS, my iPhone has GPS…  


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    Dec 13th, 2009 (11:05 am)

    I imagine they said iPhone/Blackberry but I would imagine this could work on any smartphone or iPhone(not sure iPhone is a smartphone – very good feature phone with apps). I imagine the app doesn’t interface directly to the car. It probably goes through some web app that talks with OnStar and OnStar is doing the vehicle communications. So I imagine the app could be written for any phone given the web API.


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    Dec 13th, 2009 (11:11 am)

    Jackson: I like the idea of being able to plan routes before you get into the car — but how about on your PC?Either push it through a website or carry a flash drive out with you (will save time and be safer than fiddling with an in-dash system).Several have mentioned detecting theft — how about remote car power-down, or remote “make the lights flash and horn blow” to underscore to police that the vehicle is actually stolen?With this connectedness, a Volt may become too dangerous a target for any but the most foolish theives.  

    OnStar already does this via Mapquest.

    http://wireless.mapquest.com/sendto/onstar/

    Actually I think OnStar already does everything you mentioned. Probably should go to http://www.onstar.com


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    Jan 7th, 2010 (6:12 pm)

    This is awesome news! The video is inspiring! November can’t get here fast enough.

    Lyle, I plan to wear my “I am # 2139 on the waiting list at GM-Volt.com” shirt to the NAIAS on January 16th. I am making the several hundred miles drive from Grove, OK weather permitting.

    Who do I need to impress to get a chance to sit in the seat for just a few seconds?