loboc:
Some people just can’t (or won’t) change their thinking to save the world.If you need to drive to Auntie’s house, then, use a machine appropriate to task. Leaf is for city commutes not open country driving.
I am considering a BEV (such as Leaf) for my second car precisely because the second car only travels 5 to 15 miles per day. (Actually, I am considering building one as a conversion.)My primary will be a Volt because it can go to Auntie’s with no problems.  

I commute on a bike 25 miles a day, so your ‘save the world’ comment comes off as patronizing and insulting. Too many people are just too lazy to change their wasteful habits to save the world. And yes – spending $30K + extra insurance for a 5-15 mile a day car sounds ridiculous.

stuart22: Who in their right minds would pay $30k for something that travels 1/3 the distance of what they are driving now before running out of power…. and takes 40 times longer in time to fill up and hit the road again to travel 1/3 the distance of what they are driving now.

Some people just can’t (or won’t) change their thinking to save the world.

If you need to drive to Auntie’s house, then, use a machine appropriate to task. Leaf is for city commutes not open country driving.

I am considering a BEV (such as Leaf) for my second car precisely because the second car only travels 5 to 15 miles per day. (Actually, I am considering building one as a conversion.) My primary will be a Volt because it can go to Auntie’s with no problems.

Rooster: I disagree. One of the big unknowns is the Volt’s MPG in charge sustaining mode.

My point is that it just doesn’t matter.

Instantaneous mpg or mpg for a specific trip is a very small part of the yearly gas usage. The peaks and valleys on that yearly graph may be important to statistics nuts, but, they just don’t matter for real-world foreign oil use reduction.

The difference between 30mpg and 60mpg in CS mode doesn’t matter when you use a half gallon to gallon of gas a WEEK. It’s a minuscule number.

Personally, I will go from 20 gallons per week of gasahol (90% gasoline) to 1 gallon or less per week of E85 (15% gasoline). That’s close enough to zero for me.

Dave G: But how would they know the mileage in charge sustaining mode when they’re still tuning the design? Remember that everything is controlled by software, and that’s far from finished.

Remember how they promised transparency?

That comes with the understanding that its likely to improve later.

As for how… how did they come up with the 230 MPG estimate?