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	<title>Comments on: Engineering Design of the Chevy Volt&#8217;s Two Electric Motors</title>
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		<title>By: LabRat</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2009/11/09/engineering-design-of-the-chevy-volts-two-electric-motors/#comment-158327</link>
		<dc:creator>LabRat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More than most, this comment thread was an interesting read. Congratulations to all the folks who unraveled the mystery. If there is any doubt that the 2-mode and the Volt do not share some common architecture parts, just look to these two publicly available photographs:
http://allworldcars.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/2009_chevrolet_volt_lg_chem_15.jpg

http://cache.jalopnik.com/cars/assets/resources/2008/01/2009%20Saturn%20Vue%20Green%20line%202%20mode%20hybrid.jpg

If anyone took closeup pics of the Volt during the auto shows (like I did), you would see the same exterior features for Volt and 2-mode FWD. (including that auto-trans-like valve body covered by the black case in front)

Now, what&#039;s inside is the &quot;proprietary information.&quot; GM has so many patents on 2-mode and 4-mode transmissions it would make your head spin. We can only guess what is inside.

I knew this a long time ago. I was waiting for the day this info would finally break. He he. 

BTW, series HEVs have poor hybrid fuel economy. Power-split always does better. Complexity does provide better efficiency. Plus, as someone pointed out, it is much easier to make money if you have part commonality. Remember, GM needs to make money, badly.  (hello? This is car making - its all about mass production, otherwise every car would be &gt;$100k).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More than most, this comment thread was an interesting read. Congratulations to all the folks who unraveled the mystery. If there is any doubt that the 2-mode and the Volt do not share some common architecture parts, just look to these two publicly available photographs:<br />
<a href="http://allworldcars.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/2009_chevrolet_volt_lg_chem_15.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://allworldcars.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/2009_chevrolet_volt_lg_chem_15.jpg</a></p>
<p><a href="http://cache.jalopnik.com/cars/assets/resources/2008/01/2009%20Saturn%20Vue%20Green%20line%202%20mode%20hybrid.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://cache.jalopnik.com/cars/assets/resources/2008/01/2009%20Saturn%20Vue%20Green%20line%202%20mode%20hybrid.jpg</a></p>
<p>If anyone took closeup pics of the Volt during the auto shows (like I did), you would see the same exterior features for Volt and 2-mode FWD. (including that auto-trans-like valve body covered by the black case in front)</p>
<p>Now, what&#8217;s inside is the &#8220;proprietary information.&#8221; GM has so many patents on 2-mode and 4-mode transmissions it would make your head spin. We can only guess what is inside.</p>
<p>I knew this a long time ago. I was waiting for the day this info would finally break. He he. </p>
<p>BTW, series HEVs have poor hybrid fuel economy. Power-split always does better. Complexity does provide better efficiency. Plus, as someone pointed out, it is much easier to make money if you have part commonality. Remember, GM needs to make money, badly.  (hello? This is car making &#8211; its all about mass production, otherwise every car would be &gt;$100k).</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A question regarding the motor(s) generating electicity after the 40 miles on battery power only are used up...

When the gas generator is running can (or will) there be enough electricity produced to re-energize the batteries for another 40 miles (assuming that all the gas in the generator may have to be used).  

It would be &quot;cool&quot; and helpful if the Volt could get another 40 miles on a recharged battery once all the gas has been used up.  (Maybe this is just wishfull thinking)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A question regarding the motor(s) generating electicity after the 40 miles on battery power only are used up&#8230;</p>
<p>When the gas generator is running can (or will) there be enough electricity produced to re-energize the batteries for another 40 miles (assuming that all the gas in the generator may have to be used).  </p>
<p>It would be &#8220;cool&#8221; and helpful if the Volt could get another 40 miles on a recharged battery once all the gas has been used up.  (Maybe this is just wishfull thinking)</p>
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		<title>By: Cab Driver</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2009/11/09/engineering-design-of-the-chevy-volts-two-electric-motors/#comment-157526</link>
		<dc:creator>Cab Driver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-157497&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-157497&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;carcus1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Cab Driver @ 145,15 BUCKS! . .. are you MAD??That’s a 12 pack of beer AND a box of Swisher Sweets!&#160;&#160;&lt;a title=&quot;Click here or select text to quote comment&quot; href=&quot;void(null)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;(Quote)&lt;/A&gt;
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Life is about priorities... Like the guy said to Dirty Harry: &quot;I&#039;s gots to know!&quot;</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-157497" rel="nofollow">carcus1</a></strong>: Cab Driver @ 145,15 BUCKS! . .. are you MAD??That’s a 12 pack of beer AND a box of Swisher Sweets!&nbsp;&nbsp;<a title="Click here or select text to quote comment" href="void(null)" rel="nofollow">(Quote)</a>
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<p>Life is about priorities&#8230; Like the guy said to Dirty Harry: &#8220;I&#8217;s gots to know!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: carcus1</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cab Driver @ 145,

15 BUCKS!  . .. are you MAD??

That&#039;s a 12 pack of  beer AND a box of Swisher Sweets!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cab Driver @ 145,</p>
<p>15 BUCKS!  . .. are you MAD??</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a 12 pack of  beer AND a box of Swisher Sweets!</p>
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		<title>By: Rich R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-157459&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jscott1000&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: It seems almost certain to me at this point that the Volt will use a variant of the 2MT70 if not identical to the one previously planned for the Vue hybrid. All they needed to do was beef up MG2, (which we all they can do) and tweak the software to allow the 40 miles AER.It’s going to disappoint the purists to realize there is a mechanical connection between the engine and wheels, but with software you can use an infinitely variable amount of ICE and electric motor combinations. I like this architecture if this is in fact what GM has done.Since the 2MT70 was planned to be deployed in the Saturn Vue I would assume that GM considers it sufficiently reliable to be in a production vehicle.&#160;&#160;&lt;a title=&quot;Click here or select text to quote comment&quot; href=&quot;void(null)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;(Quote)&lt;/A&gt;
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I agree, I think the reason it was mentioned the engine will operate at a varying rpm is because the so called sweet spot is not so much related to RPMs as it is loads.  The Electric motor(s) will step in hold the ICE load at is sweet spot(s).....  Think of what happens when you watch your real-time MPG as you hold a constant rpm\speed and you crest a hill.  But who knows for sure, certainly not me just postulating on what is presented.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-157459" rel="nofollow">Jscott1000</a></strong>: It seems almost certain to me at this point that the Volt will use a variant of the 2MT70 if not identical to the one previously planned for the Vue hybrid. All they needed to do was beef up MG2, (which we all they can do) and tweak the software to allow the 40 miles AER.It’s going to disappoint the purists to realize there is a mechanical connection between the engine and wheels, but with software you can use an infinitely variable amount of ICE and electric motor combinations. I like this architecture if this is in fact what GM has done.Since the 2MT70 was planned to be deployed in the Saturn Vue I would assume that GM considers it sufficiently reliable to be in a production vehicle.&nbsp;&nbsp;<a title="Click here or select text to quote comment" href="void(null)" rel="nofollow">(Quote)</a>
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<p>I agree, I think the reason it was mentioned the engine will operate at a varying rpm is because the so called sweet spot is not so much related to RPMs as it is loads.  The Electric motor(s) will step in hold the ICE load at is sweet spot(s)&#8230;..  Think of what happens when you watch your real-time MPG as you hold a constant rpm\speed and you crest a hill.  But who knows for sure, certainly not me just postulating on what is presented.</p>
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