Comments on: Compact Power CEO on the Cost of Lithium-ion Batteries http://gm-volt.com/2009/10/02/compact-power-ceo-on-the-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 12:37:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Davide Andrea http://gm-volt.com/2009/10/02/compact-power-ceo-on-the-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/#comment-152117 Davide Andrea Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:10:13 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1823#comment-152117 > They’ve got a massive ” volume compensation” fee. Well, handholding each new client is really resource intensive. For business reasons, it was either having that fee, or making it available exclusively to pre-qualified, large manufacturers. We chose the former, so no one would be excluded from a Lithiumate BMS. > They’ve got a massive ” volume compensation” fee.

Well, handholding each new client is really resource intensive. For business reasons, it was either having that fee, or making it available exclusively to pre-qualified, large manufacturers. We chose the former, so no one would be excluded from a Lithiumate BMS.

]]> By: Dan Frederiksen http://gm-volt.com/2009/10/02/compact-power-ceo-on-the-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/#comment-151057 Dan Frederiksen Wed, 07 Oct 2009 10:19:17 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1823#comment-151057 he should have asked what the mass percentage of lithium in batteries is. I hear there is only something like 1% of lithium in a battery so lithium is not a cost critical component at current prices. it should be possible to get below 100$/kWh and maybe well below. and all it takes is for one factory to do it first. they're all balanced greedy right now and they're playing chicken with the fate of the world.. he should have asked what the mass percentage of lithium in batteries is. I hear there is only something like 1% of lithium in a battery so lithium is not a cost critical component at current prices. it should be possible to get below 100$/kWh and maybe well below.
and all it takes is for one factory to do it first. they’re all balanced greedy right now and they’re playing chicken with the fate of the world..

]]> By: mlloyd http://gm-volt.com/2009/10/02/compact-power-ceo-on-the-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/#comment-150758 mlloyd Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:12:24 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1823#comment-150758 "These cells are extremely environmentally benign, unlike lead acid and alkaline cells. With increased demand even the cost of lithium metal will drop, and its not expensive now. I would guess these lithium cells are mostly made out of plastic.." Using environmentally benign and plastic in the same post is hysterical. Ask all the fishes in the world's oceans and waterways how benign plastic is! You earth-firsters kill me with your perferred power choice's vices somehow being less onerous than old school power choices. There is no environmentally benign... and as has been proven what was once thought benign is not. “These cells are extremely environmentally benign, unlike lead acid and alkaline cells.

With increased demand even the cost of lithium metal will drop, and its not expensive now. I would guess these lithium cells are mostly made out of plastic..”

Using environmentally benign and plastic in the same post is hysterical. Ask all the fishes in the world’s oceans and waterways how benign plastic is! You earth-firsters kill me with your perferred power choice’s vices somehow being less onerous than old school power choices. There is no environmentally benign… and as has been proven what was once thought benign is not.

]]> By: Finally, a Volt battery price… sort of… | Sequence Omega http://gm-volt.com/2009/10/02/compact-power-ceo-on-the-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/#comment-150568 Finally, a Volt battery price… sort of… | Sequence Omega Sun, 04 Oct 2009 20:10:54 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1823#comment-150568 [...] GM-Volt.com has an interview with the CEO of Compact Power (the cell provider for the Volt battery), in which he reveals the price per kWh for the battery (not including all the electronics). [...] [...] GM-Volt.com has an interview with the CEO of Compact Power (the cell provider for the Volt battery), in which he reveals the price per kWh for the battery (not including all the electronics). [...]

]]> By: tsport100 http://gm-volt.com/2009/10/02/compact-power-ceo-on-the-cost-of-lithium-ion-batteries/#comment-150476 tsport100 Sun, 04 Oct 2009 09:23:25 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1823#comment-150476 Good to see he's quoting the REAL price! The open market price for 18650 Li-ion cells has been around $350 kWh for years! The cost of the Tesla pack is around $377 kWh. All just goes to prove that the Carnegie Mellon study published 6 months ago claiming $1000 kWh for the Volt pack was simply BS as they made no attempt to break down their cost, explain how that number was calculated or even give a source for that price! Good to see he’s quoting the REAL price!

The open market price for 18650 Li-ion cells has been around $350 kWh for years! The cost of the Tesla pack is around $377 kWh.

All just goes to prove that the Carnegie Mellon study published 6 months ago claiming $1000 kWh for the Volt pack was simply BS as they made no attempt to break down their cost, explain how that number was calculated or even give a source for that price!

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