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	<title>Comments on: Mitsubishi Uveils PX-MiEV; EV, EREV and PHEV All in One</title>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 16:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The gay people aren&#039;t who you think they are.  One of the gay guys I&#039;ve met worked at ESPN.  His should-be-husband was a skydiving instructor with a PHD.  They both looked and acted like jocks.

And the lady-biker that worked in the office next to his in this particular office was straight and had a thing for short chubby geeky guys.

Things are more interesting than they first appear.  Just enough people match the stereotype to keep it alive, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The gay people aren&#8217;t who you think they are.  One of the gay guys I&#8217;ve met worked at ESPN.  His should-be-husband was a skydiving instructor with a PHD.  They both looked and acted like jocks.</p>
<p>And the lady-biker that worked in the office next to his in this particular office was straight and had a thing for short chubby geeky guys.</p>
<p>Things are more interesting than they first appear.  Just enough people match the stereotype to keep it alive, though.</p>
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		<title>By: solo</title>
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		<dc:creator>solo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Honda CR-Z actually looks like it would sell. It has very nice styling and better performance than a typical &#039;hybrid&#039;.

As far as the EV-N goes.  Well, maybe one of Honda&#039;s little humanoid robots might look good in one, but no carbon based life form would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Honda CR-Z actually looks like it would sell. It has very nice styling and better performance than a typical &#8216;hybrid&#8217;.</p>
<p>As far as the EV-N goes.  Well, maybe one of Honda&#8217;s little humanoid robots might look good in one, but no carbon based life form would.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveP</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would hazard a guess it won&#039;t be nearly as complicated as the Prius system.  None of that electric planetary variable diff mumbo-jumbo. :)

No, what I would guess it will be like the system Subaru was thinking about but then never really pursued which cleverly placed electric motors around a conventional drivetrain.

Imagine a conventional clutch/transmission drivetrain with an electric motor stuck somewhere after the clutch yet before the actual transmission part, and add a motor on the rear wheels.
Now you can have 3 operating modes for the front, and the rear is always electric.
For the front you can:
Open the clutch:  Engine disengaged, electric drive of wheels
Close the clutch: transmission in neutral: Engine driving generator only for charging (drive coming from rear wheel electric motor).
Close the clutch: engage the transmission: Engine driving wheels, electric motor either charging or driving, depending on control.

A variant would be even simpler to just sandwich an Honda style IMA where the electric motor replaces the flywheel, but then you&#039;d lose the ability to stop the motor entirely while using the front electric motor.  I suspect that a larger rear motor would be more likely specified in that scenario if you really wanted electric operation.

Subaru was actually postulating that variant and a big motor at the output end of the transmission and the AWD supplied by their normal AWD.  Still, you can do a lot with a conventional system supplemented by electric motors rather than going to the Prius approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would hazard a guess it won&#8217;t be nearly as complicated as the Prius system.  None of that electric planetary variable diff mumbo-jumbo. <img src='http://gm-volt.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>No, what I would guess it will be like the system Subaru was thinking about but then never really pursued which cleverly placed electric motors around a conventional drivetrain.</p>
<p>Imagine a conventional clutch/transmission drivetrain with an electric motor stuck somewhere after the clutch yet before the actual transmission part, and add a motor on the rear wheels.<br />
Now you can have 3 operating modes for the front, and the rear is always electric.<br />
For the front you can:<br />
Open the clutch:  Engine disengaged, electric drive of wheels<br />
Close the clutch: transmission in neutral: Engine driving generator only for charging (drive coming from rear wheel electric motor).<br />
Close the clutch: engage the transmission: Engine driving wheels, electric motor either charging or driving, depending on control.</p>
<p>A variant would be even simpler to just sandwich an Honda style IMA where the electric motor replaces the flywheel, but then you&#8217;d lose the ability to stop the motor entirely while using the front electric motor.  I suspect that a larger rear motor would be more likely specified in that scenario if you really wanted electric operation.</p>
<p>Subaru was actually postulating that variant and a big motor at the output end of the transmission and the AWD supplied by their normal AWD.  Still, you can do a lot with a conventional system supplemented by electric motors rather than going to the Prius approach.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched a show the other night that showed the problems at GM to compete, The Union still doesn&#039;t appear to be on board to cut costs and the same nonsense that has gone on for years still goes on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched a show the other night that showed the problems at GM to compete, The Union still doesn&#8217;t appear to be on board to cut costs and the same nonsense that has gone on for years still goes on.</p>
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		<title>By: EVO</title>
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		<dc:creator>EVO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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