Comments on: Plug-in Prius Will Have up to 12.4 Mile All Electric Range http://gm-volt.com/2009/09/10/plug-in-prius-will-have-up-to-124-all-electric-miles/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 03:11:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Bradyb http://gm-volt.com/2009/09/10/plug-in-prius-will-have-up-to-124-all-electric-miles/#comment-146500 Bradyb Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:22:37 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1836#comment-146500 If I can tune my car to get 35-40 MPG (2.0 Liter, twin scroll turbo, direct injection, variable cams) then an auto maker can build a specialized high mileage car. I drive a RWD, wide tire Solstice GXP that has a cd of .46! GM is working on a 1.4L version of my engine that will get 46 HWY with the non-electric Volt/Cruz. The tech is there, an automaker just needs to build an updated Geo metro. For example, check out the VWL1, a diesel two seater premiering at today’s Frankfurt Auto Show. The VWL1 is 1100 pounds, can carry two passengers, and is running a small turbo diesel for 158 MPG! If I can tune my car to get 35-40 MPG (2.0 Liter, twin scroll turbo, direct injection, variable cams) then an auto maker can build a specialized high mileage car. I drive a RWD, wide tire Solstice GXP that has a cd of .46! GM is working on a 1.4L version of my engine that will get 46 HWY with the non-electric Volt/Cruz. The tech is there, an automaker just needs to build an updated Geo metro. For example, check out the VWL1, a diesel two seater premiering at today’s Frankfurt Auto Show. The VWL1 is 1100 pounds, can carry two passengers, and is running a small turbo diesel for 158 MPG!

]]> By: GXT http://gm-volt.com/2009/09/10/plug-in-prius-will-have-up-to-124-all-electric-miles/#comment-145496 GXT Sat, 12 Sep 2009 06:35:32 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1836#comment-145496 I think you still have the Prius price set too high. Based on the stats and the Volt battery cost estimates, we can expect that the Prius plug-in battery would be ~$2,000. But you can also subtract the price of the existing Prius battery. It doesn't sound like they have changed much else on the plug-in Prius. When all is said and done the plug-in version might be only $2,000-$3,000 more than the existing Prius BEFORE rebates. I think you still have the Prius price set too high.

Based on the stats and the Volt battery cost estimates, we can expect that the Prius plug-in battery would be ~$2,000. But you can also subtract the price of the existing Prius battery.

It doesn’t sound like they have changed much else on the plug-in Prius.

When all is said and done the plug-in version might be only $2,000-$3,000 more than the existing Prius BEFORE rebates.

]]> By: Matthew_B http://gm-volt.com/2009/09/10/plug-in-prius-will-have-up-to-124-all-electric-miles/#comment-145487 Matthew_B Sat, 12 Sep 2009 04:08:03 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1836#comment-145487 "I call it parallel because it has both mechanical & electric propulsion, sometimes both working at the same time. But its not hard to get caught up in all the semantics and acronyms, especially reading the posts on this site." Some power goes directly mechanical, making it sort of parallel. Some of the power produced by the engine is converted to electricity and reconverted back to mechanical, making it sort of series. Neither definition fits. "As far as adding a clutch & regarding the transmission, i think its simple/better to not have a clutch or transmission (talk about dead weight)." The weight of a clutch is very small compared to the weight of a motor that it's sized for. The savings in weight of being able to downsize the MG2 motor/generator would be far bigger than the extra weight of a clutch. “I call it parallel because it has both mechanical & electric propulsion, sometimes both working at the same time. But its not hard to get caught up in all the semantics and acronyms, especially reading the posts on this site.”

Some power goes directly mechanical, making it sort of parallel. Some of the power produced by the engine is converted to electricity and reconverted back to mechanical, making it sort of series. Neither definition fits.

“As far as adding a clutch & regarding the transmission, i think its simple/better to not have a clutch or transmission (talk about dead weight).”

The weight of a clutch is very small compared to the weight of a motor that it’s sized for. The savings in weight of being able to downsize the MG2 motor/generator would be far bigger than the extra weight of a clutch.

]]> By: CaptJackSparrow http://gm-volt.com/2009/09/10/plug-in-prius-will-have-up-to-124-all-electric-miles/#comment-145459 CaptJackSparrow Fri, 11 Sep 2009 22:28:09 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1836#comment-145459 WTF? Where the fuk did this article or release say this was an electric vehicle? I can't find it. WTF?
Where the fuk did this article or release say this was an electric vehicle?
I can’t find it.

]]> By: john1701a http://gm-volt.com/2009/09/10/plug-in-prius-will-have-up-to-124-all-electric-miles/#comment-145449 john1701a Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:27:57 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1836#comment-145449 Same numbers? None of the auto publications have found a non-hybrid like that (50 MPG real-world), without significant down size & power. Face it, something using an electric-motor and battery-pack is needed. Same numbers?

None of the auto publications have found a non-hybrid like that (50 MPG real-world), without significant down size & power.

Face it, something using an electric-motor and battery-pack is needed.

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