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	<title>Comments on: Fisker Karma EREV Expected to Get 67 MPG Combined Fuel Efficiency</title>
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		<title>By: Jackson</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2009/09/09/fisker-karma-erev-expected-to-get-67-mpg-combined-fuel-efficiency/#comment-145002</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, you must be referring to &lt;i&gt;this&lt;/i&gt;:

http://green.autoblog.com/2009/09/10/frankfurt-preview-more-on-toyotas-new-lithium-ion-plug-in-priu/

It just popped up on the current thread.  By the way, you ought to hop over there and just &lt;i&gt;look&lt;/i&gt; at how us &lt;i&gt;evil, exclusive, unfair&lt;/i&gt; Volt fans are responding to this announcement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, you must be referring to <i>this</i>:</p>
<p><a href="http://green.autoblog.com/2009/09/10/frankfurt-preview-more-on-toyotas-new-lithium-ion-plug-in-priu/" rel="nofollow">http://green.autoblog.com/2009/09/10/frankfurt-preview-more-on-toyotas-new-lithium-ion-plug-in-priu/</a></p>
<p>It just popped up on the current thread.  By the way, you ought to hop over there and just <i>look</i> at how us <i>evil, exclusive, unfair</i> Volt fans are responding to this announcement.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2009/09/09/fisker-karma-erev-expected-to-get-67-mpg-combined-fuel-efficiency/#comment-144994</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re not reading a one-post response-thread.  I&#039;ve been reading your posts for about 2 years.  Even a clever commercial gets stale when it&#039;s repeated that long, and yours hasn&#039;t been all that clever.

I&#039;m not sure what you mean by &quot;request&quot; unless it is this:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Next week’s announcement must be causing more of a stir than you care to admit. If Toyota offers a 5kWh configuration, what can’t GM too?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

... which appeared quite late in the present thread.  To which &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; must repeatedly ask:  &lt;i&gt;What&lt;/i&gt; announcement?

The Volt carries a 16kwh pack of which 8kwh is used.  Are you requesting a Volt with a smaller AER?  That may come in time, but I suspect the move will actually be towards greater AER.

As to drawing personal attention, this isn&#039;t the current thread.  No, it wouldn&#039;t be appropriate to hijack a new thread for this.  This is just between us (and maybe Lyle or a couple of others).  Don&#039;t keep acting like the innocent, aggrieved victim.  You &lt;i&gt;really can&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; admit that you&#039;re nothing but a pro-Toyo fanboi, can you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re not reading a one-post response-thread.  I&#8217;ve been reading your posts for about 2 years.  Even a clever commercial gets stale when it&#8217;s repeated that long, and yours hasn&#8217;t been all that clever.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what you mean by &#8220;request&#8221; unless it is this:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Next week’s announcement must be causing more of a stir than you care to admit. If Toyota offers a 5kWh configuration, what can’t GM too?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>&#8230; which appeared quite late in the present thread.  To which <i>I</i> must repeatedly ask:  <i>What</i> announcement?</p>
<p>The Volt carries a 16kwh pack of which 8kwh is used.  Are you requesting a Volt with a smaller AER?  That may come in time, but I suspect the move will actually be towards greater AER.</p>
<p>As to drawing personal attention, this isn&#8217;t the current thread.  No, it wouldn&#8217;t be appropriate to hijack a new thread for this.  This is just between us (and maybe Lyle or a couple of others).  Don&#8217;t keep acting like the innocent, aggrieved victim.  You <i>really can&#8217;t</i> admit that you&#8217;re nothing but a pro-Toyo fanboi, can you?</p>
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		<title>By: john1701a</title>
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		<dc:creator>john1701a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, you can draw all the personal attention to me you want and I&#039;m not allowed to ask anything about you.  Whatever.

Claiming my request for GM to offer an &lt;b&gt;additional&lt;/b&gt; configuration of Volt is somehow an attempt to &lt;i&gt;dismiss&lt;/i&gt; Volt altogether doesn&#039;t make any sense anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, you can draw all the personal attention to me you want and I&#8217;m not allowed to ask anything about you.  Whatever.</p>
<p>Claiming my request for GM to offer an <b>additional</b> configuration of Volt is somehow an attempt to <i>dismiss</i> Volt altogether doesn&#8217;t make any sense anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, this isn&#039;t about what &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;I&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; want for Voltec.  You are on a gm-volt fan site promoting the hell out of the Toyota Prius, and doing everything you can to &lt;i&gt;dismiss&lt;/i&gt; the Volt.  Where you say something is at least as important as what is said.  

&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&quot;YOUR purpose is what I have repeatedly asked for&quot;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

What?  If you shift the focus of this discussion to something irrelevant, do you win a cookie?  If I were on &lt;i&gt;your&lt;/i&gt; site regularly disparaging the Prius, you might have some justification for such a demand, but not here.  Even so:

I&#039;m on the gm-volt site hoping to help launch the Voltec system, as a new and potentially better way of shifting the US off of petroleum for transportation.

 I&#039;ve had a lifelong interest in electric cars, and the Volt looks like the best thing going towards that end, so far.  As the Prius approaches it&#039;s asymptotic limits, Voltec, at it&#039;s very outset, has a far more sweeping potential future.  It is not an electrically assisted gas car, it&#039;s a gas assisted electric car.  It ought to be a lot more fun to drive than a Prius.  But this is a lot less important than a lifelong interest in electric cars.

The Prius didn&#039;t make economic sense, at first, especially when gas was so cheap, as you point out.  You had to go on a waiting list for months to get one, even after it came to market.  The Volt faces the same hurdles, but you seem to think that it should not be allowed due to what?  &#039;Government Motors?&#039;  You &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; fully aware, I&#039;m sure, that Toyota has and continues to benefit from the largesse of the &lt;i&gt;Japanese&lt;/i&gt; government; but you can&#039;t vote or pay taxes there ... can you?

There.  I recommend the chocolate chip.

PS:  &lt;i&gt;What&lt;/i&gt; announcement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, this isn&#8217;t about what <i><b>I</b></i> want for Voltec.  You are on a gm-volt fan site promoting the hell out of the Toyota Prius, and doing everything you can to <i>dismiss</i> the Volt.  Where you say something is at least as important as what is said.  </p>
<p><i><b>&#8220;YOUR purpose is what I have repeatedly asked for&#8221;</b></i></p>
<p>What?  If you shift the focus of this discussion to something irrelevant, do you win a cookie?  If I were on <i>your</i> site regularly disparaging the Prius, you might have some justification for such a demand, but not here.  Even so:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m on the gm-volt site hoping to help launch the Voltec system, as a new and potentially better way of shifting the US off of petroleum for transportation.</p>
<p> I&#8217;ve had a lifelong interest in electric cars, and the Volt looks like the best thing going towards that end, so far.  As the Prius approaches it&#8217;s asymptotic limits, Voltec, at it&#8217;s very outset, has a far more sweeping potential future.  It is not an electrically assisted gas car, it&#8217;s a gas assisted electric car.  It ought to be a lot more fun to drive than a Prius.  But this is a lot less important than a lifelong interest in electric cars.</p>
<p>The Prius didn&#8217;t make economic sense, at first, especially when gas was so cheap, as you point out.  You had to go on a waiting list for months to get one, even after it came to market.  The Volt faces the same hurdles, but you seem to think that it should not be allowed due to what?  &#8216;Government Motors?&#8217;  You <i>are</i> fully aware, I&#8217;m sure, that Toyota has and continues to benefit from the largesse of the <i>Japanese</i> government; but you can&#8217;t vote or pay taxes there &#8230; can you?</p>
<p>There.  I recommend the chocolate chip.</p>
<p>PS:  <i>What</i> announcement?</p>
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		<title>By: Noel Park</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noel Park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not gonna happen though.  There&#039;s an article up right now on the MSN news page confirming that the Magna/Russian bank deal is going forward.

It has a pretty interesting take on the overcapacity of Opel.  Plants in Germany, Belgium, Poland, Spain, Portugal and Britain (Vauxhall).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not gonna happen though.  There&#8217;s an article up right now on the MSN news page confirming that the Magna/Russian bank deal is going forward.</p>
<p>It has a pretty interesting take on the overcapacity of Opel.  Plants in Germany, Belgium, Poland, Spain, Portugal and Britain (Vauxhall).</p>
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