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	<title>Comments on: Op-Ed:  Cash for Clunkers Ends in August and GM&#8217;s Monthly Woes Continue Unabated</title>
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		<title>By: grat</title>
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		<dc:creator>grat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 23:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.

First off, the secondary power plant in the Volt *is* a gas engine.  Second, you can&#039;t complain about the $40k price tag, then claim that the non-existent 6th generation fuel cell makes financial sense-- even the recently announced 5th gen isn&#039;t quite there, nor is the fueling infrastructure.

As for the battery taking up space, apparently you aren&#039;t aware that it occupies the space between the seats and under the two rear seats-- You might be able to argue that the Volt could seat 5 (although I&#039;ve always felt calling compact cars &quot;5 passenger&quot; is silly), but I can&#039;t see how it&#039;s reducing the trunk space.

Your argument about straining the power grid is invalidated twice-- once because you claim that plug-in electric hybrids won&#039;t sell, and secondly because there are numerous studies that debunk that particular claim-- it&#039;s even more ridiculous that you think hydrogen fuel-cells are the answer, when you say that PHEV&#039;s are doomed because of the lack of infrastructure.

At the moment, if you want 300 miles, you&#039;re looking at petroleum.  Even the vaunted Clarity FCX only gets 240 miles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.</p>
<p>First off, the secondary power plant in the Volt *is* a gas engine.  Second, you can&#8217;t complain about the $40k price tag, then claim that the non-existent 6th generation fuel cell makes financial sense&#8211; even the recently announced 5th gen isn&#8217;t quite there, nor is the fueling infrastructure.</p>
<p>As for the battery taking up space, apparently you aren&#8217;t aware that it occupies the space between the seats and under the two rear seats&#8211; You might be able to argue that the Volt could seat 5 (although I&#8217;ve always felt calling compact cars &#8220;5 passenger&#8221; is silly), but I can&#8217;t see how it&#8217;s reducing the trunk space.</p>
<p>Your argument about straining the power grid is invalidated twice&#8211; once because you claim that plug-in electric hybrids won&#8217;t sell, and secondly because there are numerous studies that debunk that particular claim&#8211; it&#8217;s even more ridiculous that you think hydrogen fuel-cells are the answer, when you say that PHEV&#8217;s are doomed because of the lack of infrastructure.</p>
<p>At the moment, if you want 300 miles, you&#8217;re looking at petroleum.  Even the vaunted Clarity FCX only gets 240 miles.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Saving&quot; GM is all about a controlled collapse allowing its market share to deflate over the next few years rather than a collapse that would spill over into parts manufacturer&#039;s etc.  This is all going according to &quot;plan&quot; and while it may be awful the government is willing to write it off as a necessary loss, just like AIG, FM &amp;FM etc.  They just can&#039;t spin it like that to the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Saving&#8221; GM is all about a controlled collapse allowing its market share to deflate over the next few years rather than a collapse that would spill over into parts manufacturer&#8217;s etc.  This is all going according to &#8220;plan&#8221; and while it may be awful the government is willing to write it off as a necessary loss, just like AIG, FM &amp;FM etc.  They just can&#8217;t spin it like that to the public.</p>
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		<title>By: kdawg</title>
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		<dc:creator>kdawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you were a child you must have been the 0.2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you were a child you must have been the 0.2</p>
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		<title>By: LauraM</title>
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		<dc:creator>LauraM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. Pontiac sales are included in GM&#039;s 17.6%.  

And I think that was Statik&#039;s point.  Mark LaNeve sounds optimistic about GM&#039;s future market share, and claims that they&#039;re well positioned to do well with their core brands.  Meanwhile GM&#039;s planned future production numbers are anything but optimistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. Pontiac sales are included in GM&#8217;s 17.6%.  </p>
<p>And I think that was Statik&#8217;s point.  Mark LaNeve sounds optimistic about GM&#8217;s future market share, and claims that they&#8217;re well positioned to do well with their core brands.  Meanwhile GM&#8217;s planned future production numbers are anything but optimistic.</p>
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		<title>By: LauraM</title>
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		<dc:creator>LauraM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I misread your question--my original point was that it seems strange to me that every article says the cfc was a winner for Ford, and a loser for GM, when the market share figures said the exact opposite.  

To me, that says I&#039;m missing part of the story.  Maybe profit per vehicle?  Maybe Ford didn&#039;t have to use as many incentives?  Statik&#039;s point about Pontiac makes me thing that&#039;s probably the case.  But, according to GM&#039;s own figures, their &quot;core brand&quot; sales were also up.   Basically, I want numbers, and I can&#039;t find a source that goes into the details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I misread your question&#8211;my original point was that it seems strange to me that every article says the cfc was a winner for Ford, and a loser for GM, when the market share figures said the exact opposite.  </p>
<p>To me, that says I&#8217;m missing part of the story.  Maybe profit per vehicle?  Maybe Ford didn&#8217;t have to use as many incentives?  Statik&#8217;s point about Pontiac makes me thing that&#8217;s probably the case.  But, according to GM&#8217;s own figures, their &#8220;core brand&#8221; sales were also up.   Basically, I want numbers, and I can&#8217;t find a source that goes into the details.</p>
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