Comments on: Why GM is Concerned About Plugin Readiness Infrastructure http://gm-volt.com/2009/08/31/why-gm-is-concerned-about-plugin-readiness-infrastructure/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:27:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Michael C. Robinson http://gm-volt.com/2009/08/31/why-gm-is-concerned-about-plugin-readiness-infrastructure/#comment-142660 Michael C. Robinson Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:43:47 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1792#comment-142660 Telling people to take mass transit overlooks something, many people live out of town where there is limited or no mass transit. What is available doesn't always run late enough or early enough for people. Mass transit should run on domestically produced hydrogen so that it is OIL neutral and clean. The pick up place for mass transit in the bedroom community I live in is pretty far from where I live. The amount of time it takes to get to town via mass transit is a problem and it's a problem when transit drops you off a long ways from where you actually need to be in town. Mass transit works if there is a large enough population of people needing it to support it and it goes where people need to go. The transit in my community is subsidized if I'm not mistaken. If I could take a bus home at 11 pm, mass transit might work for me. Telling people to take mass transit overlooks something, many people live out of town where there is limited or no mass transit. What is available doesn’t always run late enough or early enough for people. Mass transit should run on domestically produced hydrogen so that it is OIL neutral and clean. The pick up place for mass transit in the bedroom community I live in is pretty far from where I live. The amount of time it takes to get to town via mass transit is a problem and it’s a problem when transit drops you off a long ways from where you actually need to be in town.

Mass transit works if there is a large enough population of people needing it to support it and it goes where people need to go. The
transit in my community is subsidized if I’m not mistaken. If I could
take a bus home at 11 pm, mass transit might work for me.

]]> By: Michael C. Robinson http://gm-volt.com/2009/08/31/why-gm-is-concerned-about-plugin-readiness-infrastructure/#comment-142655 Michael C. Robinson Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:21:51 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1792#comment-142655 http://hydrogendiscoveries.wordpress.com/2009/02/19/fallacy-of-energy-efficiency-argument-against-hydrogen-fuel-cell-vehicles-by-plug-in-battery-advocates/ Read it and reconsider whether or not we should be building a plug-in car infrastructure at all. A fuel cell Volt plug in hybrid will operate even if you can't plug it in. With a smaller battery, it retains the advantage of having a battery and adds on the advantages of a fuel cell. Hydrogen has not failed at all. Hydrogen really hasn't been tried yet. The year 2015 is not far away with most car manufacturers including GM saying that that is the year they will commercialize their fuel cell cars. When the fuel cell Volt hits the market for $30k or less, that will be the real EV revolution. Only when fuel cell cars become affordable will the internal combustion engine get left behind. There is more than enough renewable energy potential to serve the world's energy needs without fossil fuels. http://hydrogendiscoveries.wordpress.com/2009/02/19/fallacy-of-energy-efficiency-argument-against-hydrogen-fuel-cell-vehicles-by-plug-in-battery-advocates/

Read it and reconsider whether or not we should be building a plug-in car infrastructure at all.

A fuel cell Volt plug in hybrid will operate even if you can’t plug it in. With a smaller battery, it retains the advantage of having a battery and adds on the advantages of a fuel cell.

Hydrogen has not failed at all. Hydrogen really hasn’t been tried yet. The year 2015 is not far away with most car manufacturers including GM saying that that is the year they will commercialize their fuel cell cars.

When the fuel cell Volt hits the market for $30k or less, that will be the real EV revolution. Only when fuel cell cars become affordable
will the internal combustion engine get left behind.

There is more than enough renewable energy potential to serve the world’s energy needs without fossil fuels.

]]> By: Ken Grubb http://gm-volt.com/2009/08/31/why-gm-is-concerned-about-plugin-readiness-infrastructure/#comment-142269 Ken Grubb Wed, 02 Sep 2009 01:01:15 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1792#comment-142269 It's good to express concern about the infrastructure, but E-REVs won't require infrastructure at first. They can and will get by on home charging 99% of the time in the beginning and they'll perform amazingly. Nissan Leaf is pushing infrastructure in Seattle and several other markets, and it ain't like the electrons only work in a Nissan. Tesla is making sales, albeit few, there's almost no infrastructure, it's a EV so it requires infrastructure or be tethered to home, and yet people are venturing out. One Tesla owner has made it to Yosemite and back. http://www.teslamotors.com/blog5/?p=68 I ain't losing sleep over it. It’s good to express concern about the infrastructure, but E-REVs won’t require infrastructure at first. They can and will get by on home charging 99% of the time in the beginning and they’ll perform amazingly.

Nissan Leaf is pushing infrastructure in Seattle and several other markets, and it ain’t like the electrons only work in a Nissan.

Tesla is making sales, albeit few, there’s almost no infrastructure, it’s a EV so it requires infrastructure or be tethered to home, and yet people are venturing out. One Tesla owner has made it to Yosemite and back.
http://www.teslamotors.com/blog5/?p=68

I ain’t losing sleep over it.

]]> By: Jeremiah Cook http://gm-volt.com/2009/08/31/why-gm-is-concerned-about-plugin-readiness-infrastructure/#comment-142195 Jeremiah Cook Tue, 01 Sep 2009 21:00:45 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1792#comment-142195 So I wonder what kind of smear campaigns the oil company's are going to start? I bet they start with saying that there are safety issues. So I wonder what kind of smear campaigns the oil company’s are going to start? I bet they start with saying that there are safety issues.

]]> By: akojim http://gm-volt.com/2009/08/31/why-gm-is-concerned-about-plugin-readiness-infrastructure/#comment-142128 akojim Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:54:25 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1792#comment-142128 OK. So now I don't have to move to CA, FL or Washington DC if I want a Volt? Now I have to move to a community which has demonstrated sufficient plugin readiness? Does the community which has demonstrated sufficient plugin readiness have to be in CA, FL or Washington DC? Obviously it can't be in CT. OK. So now I don’t have to move to CA, FL or Washington DC if I want a Volt? Now I have to move to a community which has demonstrated sufficient plugin readiness? Does the community which has demonstrated sufficient plugin readiness have to be in CA, FL or Washington DC? Obviously it can’t be in CT.

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