Comments on: How the Volt’s 230 MPG Designation was Calculated http://gm-volt.com/2009/08/12/how-the-volts-230-mpg-designation-was-calculated/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Sat, 26 May 2012 03:06:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: John http://gm-volt.com/2009/08/12/how-the-volts-230-mpg-designation-was-calculated/#comment-163182 John Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:21:25 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1794#comment-163182 DOT taxes will be assessed on all electric vehicles, one way or another we will all pay taxes to maintain the roads and bridges. Keep in mind DOT taxes go into the general fund and go to pay for favors to special interests in the form of earmarks. Your cost to drive will always go up so long as the government continues this reckless tax and spend, then tax and spend some more corruption. Wait until you have to mount a GPS tracker in your car, and then get the bill for your mileage. Where does electricity come from? There will never be enough windmills and solar panels to produce the amount of energy needed to satisfy demand for the additional electricity needed. <blockquote cite="comment-135692"> <strong><a href="#comment-135692" rel="nofollow">sgilson</a></strong>: It takes great skill and work to keep from answering the question straight out, so good work Mr. Nitz.I’m just excited that my employer sounds willing to give me an outlet to charge from during the day time.My daily commute is between 40 and 48 miles each way depending on route, so I’m counting on burning at most 1 gallon of fuel per day when I get my Volt.Now, tax the crap out of gas so the roads don’t fall apart!   </blockquote> DOT taxes will be assessed on all electric vehicles, one way or another we will all pay taxes to maintain the roads and bridges. Keep in mind DOT taxes go into the general fund and go to pay for favors to special interests in the form of earmarks. Your cost to drive will always go up so long as the government continues this reckless tax and spend, then tax and spend some more corruption. Wait until you have to mount a GPS tracker in your car, and then get the bill for your mileage. Where does electricity come from? There will never be enough windmills and solar panels to produce the amount of energy needed to satisfy demand for the additional electricity needed.

sgilson: It takes great skill and work to keep from answering the question straight out, so good work Mr. Nitz.I’m just excited that my employer sounds willing to give me an outlet to charge from during the day time.My daily commute is between 40 and 48 miles each way depending on route, so I’m counting on burning at most 1 gallon of fuel per day when I get my Volt.Now, tax the crap out of gas so the roads don’t fall apart!  

]]> By: Scholars and Rogues » The Weekly Carboholic: U.S. Chamber of Commerce files for EPA climate disruption trial http://gm-volt.com/2009/08/12/how-the-volts-230-mpg-designation-was-calculated/#comment-140253 Scholars and Rogues » The Weekly Carboholic: U.S. Chamber of Commerce files for EPA climate disruption trial Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:32:43 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1794#comment-140253 [...] but the number itself hasn’t been verified or independently tested. According to an interview with Larry Nitz, GM’s executive director of hybrid powertrain engineering, at GM-volt.co..., the EPA methodology is a baseline that is based on a statistical traffic study done in 2001 that [...] [...] but the number itself hasn’t been verified or independently tested. According to an interview with Larry Nitz, GM’s executive director of hybrid powertrain engineering, at GM-volt.co…, the EPA methodology is a baseline that is based on a statistical traffic study done in 2001 that [...]

]]> By: anonymous http://gm-volt.com/2009/08/12/how-the-volts-230-mpg-designation-was-calculated/#comment-138709 anonymous Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:49:33 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1794#comment-138709 230MPG debunked: http://dontlistentoalgore.blogspot.com/2009/08/big-epa-lie.html 230MPG debunked: http://dontlistentoalgore.blogspot.com/2009/08/big-epa-lie.html

]]> By: Chaim http://gm-volt.com/2009/08/12/how-the-volts-230-mpg-designation-was-calculated/#comment-137628 Chaim Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:23:00 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1794#comment-137628 This is more of the same. I would expect that GM would have learned by now that the days of misleading the American Consumer are over. They obviously have not. The only number that matters is the total mile per dollar based on a sampling of historical prices. Here is what needs to be calculated. 1- gas cost, 2- electric btu cost, 3 - intitial differential between the chevy volt and the chevy gas, 4- the maintenance cost of replacing the battery pack. This is more of the same. I would expect that GM would have learned by now that the days of misleading the American Consumer are over. They obviously have not. The only number that matters is the total mile per dollar based on a sampling of historical prices.
Here is what needs to be calculated. 1- gas cost, 2- electric btu cost, 3 – intitial differential between the chevy volt and the chevy gas, 4- the maintenance cost of replacing the battery pack.

]]> By: EVO http://gm-volt.com/2009/08/12/how-the-volts-230-mpg-designation-was-calculated/#comment-137520 EVO Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:49:49 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1794#comment-137520 So, it all boils down to expected EPA window stickers of around 100 mpge or higher, CAFE ratings of mid 200s or higher MPG, and at vehicle 100% electric drive all electric energy use EPA window sticker of about 25 kWh / 100 miles (yep, it's a common, accepted metric, where lower kWh / 100 miles use means more efficient) on a reasonable vehicle cycle, such as LA-4, at least for BEVs. We'll see if EREVs ultimately end up in the ballpark on their pending metrics. See, that's not so hard for consumers. What they can easily see is that anything with 100% electric drive always stomps a full gasser in efficiency, not to mention 100% electric drive's superior off the line high performance launches and luxury quiet. http://industry.bnet.com/auto/10002179/chevy-volt-and-nissan-leaf-where-the-triple-digit-fuel-economy-came-from/ http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=5ba052b6af6505931121b948735fa459&rgn=div5&view=text&node=10:3.0.1.4.29&idno=10 http://www.sae.org/mags/AEI/6559 Go, Volt! So, it all boils down to expected EPA window stickers of around 100 mpge or higher, CAFE ratings of mid 200s or higher MPG, and at vehicle 100% electric drive all electric energy use EPA window sticker of about 25 kWh / 100 miles (yep, it’s a common, accepted metric, where lower kWh / 100 miles use means more efficient) on a reasonable vehicle cycle, such as LA-4, at least for BEVs. We’ll see if EREVs ultimately end up in the ballpark on their pending metrics.

See, that’s not so hard for consumers. What they can easily see is that anything with 100% electric drive always stomps a full gasser in efficiency, not to mention 100% electric drive’s superior off the line high performance launches and luxury quiet.

http://industry.bnet.com/auto/10002179/chevy-volt-and-nissan-leaf-where-the-triple-digit-fuel-economy-came-from/

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=5ba052b6af6505931121b948735fa459&rgn=div5&view=text&node=10:3.0.1.4.29&idno=10

http://www.sae.org/mags/AEI/6559

Go, Volt!

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