Comments on: Report: Mitsubishi Confirms it Will Launch Extended-Range Electric Car in 2010 http://gm-volt.com/2009/07/31/report-mitsubishi-confirms-it-will-launch-extended-range-electric-car-in-2010/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Sat, 26 May 2012 03:06:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: EVO http://gm-volt.com/2009/07/31/report-mitsubishi-confirms-it-will-launch-extended-range-electric-car-in-2010/#comment-135040 EVO Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:49:47 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1774#comment-135040 To give SAE the benefit of the doubt, I should have said as currently defined by SAE. To give SAE the benefit of the doubt, I should have said as currently defined by SAE.

]]> By: EVO http://gm-volt.com/2009/07/31/report-mitsubishi-confirms-it-will-launch-extended-range-electric-car-in-2010/#comment-135012 EVO Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:18:44 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1774#comment-135012 You mean the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) is still clueless about electric drive? Why am I not surprised. http://media.gm.com/volt/eflex/docs/paper.pdf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Volt#Classification_as_a_.22hybrid.22 What matters is % electric drive operation, for the highest performance and luxury characteristics of electric drive. Volt is 100% electric drive, 100% of the time. Hybrids, as defined by SAE, do not use electric drive 100% of the time or for 100% of the final motive drive output, so they're different (or deficient, depending on your craving for maximum torque). No vehicles use 0% electric drive, thanks to last century's electric starters, except for some motorcycles with kick starters, commonly known as kickback leg breakers. See, perfectly muddy. Anyway, I rate 'em all by % of final motive output provided by electric drive. More is better, as evidenced by Prius kicking Civic a$$ in sales, and Tesla kicking Porsche a$$ in off the line launches. The media and automakers have a massive amount of public education to do on this yet. Or you can purchase a test drive of a Tesla Roadster Sport and let the massive torque and acceleration school your brain. Keep in mind that a Nissan Leaf beats an Infiniti G37 on off the line launches and 0-30 mph instant near linear seamless acceleration on demand. You mean the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) is still clueless about electric drive? Why am I not surprised.

http://media.gm.com/volt/eflex/docs/paper.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Volt#Classification_as_a_.22hybrid.22

What matters is % electric drive operation, for the highest performance and luxury characteristics of electric drive. Volt is 100% electric drive, 100% of the time.

Hybrids, as defined by SAE, do not use electric drive 100% of the time or for 100% of the final motive drive output, so they’re different (or deficient, depending on your craving for maximum torque).

No vehicles use 0% electric drive, thanks to last century’s electric starters, except for some motorcycles with kick starters, commonly known as kickback leg breakers.

See, perfectly muddy.

Anyway, I rate ‘em all by % of final motive output provided by electric drive. More is better, as evidenced by Prius kicking Civic a$$ in sales, and Tesla kicking Porsche a$$ in off the line launches.

The media and automakers have a massive amount of public education to do on this yet. Or you can purchase a test drive of a Tesla Roadster Sport and let the massive torque and acceleration school your brain.

Keep in mind that a Nissan Leaf beats an Infiniti G37 on off the line launches and 0-30 mph instant near linear seamless acceleration on demand.

]]> By: EVO http://gm-volt.com/2009/07/31/report-mitsubishi-confirms-it-will-launch-extended-range-electric-car-in-2010/#comment-135007 EVO Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:57:43 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1774#comment-135007 The Honda Civic GX fuel cell car costs less than $26,000 and doesn't require hydrogen (it uses CNG, which is already available at many locations in the US). http://automobiles.honda.com/civic-gx/ http://www.afdc.energy.gov/afdc/fuels/natural_gas_locations.html I'm perpetually amazed at how little research and actual real world electric drive long term experience (> 2 years) comes from the posters on this site. Enjoy your Honda Civic GX, EVNow, since you promised to buy it. The Honda Civic GX fuel cell car costs less than $26,000 and doesn’t require hydrogen (it uses CNG, which is already available at many locations in the US).

http://automobiles.honda.com/civic-gx/

http://www.afdc.energy.gov/afdc/fuels/natural_gas_locations.html

I’m perpetually amazed at how little research and actual real world electric drive long term experience (> 2 years) comes from the posters on this site.

Enjoy your Honda Civic GX, EVNow, since you promised to buy it.

]]> By: EVO http://gm-volt.com/2009/07/31/report-mitsubishi-confirms-it-will-launch-extended-range-electric-car-in-2010/#comment-135002 EVO Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:50:07 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1774#comment-135002 Who said hydrogen? Fuel cells can use whatever compressed fuel you put in them, such as propane or natural gas, just as electric drive can use whatever energy carriers and energy sources you desire. Who said hydrogen? Fuel cells can use whatever compressed fuel you put in them, such as propane or natural gas, just as electric drive can use whatever energy carriers and energy sources you desire.

]]> By: Neutron Flux http://gm-volt.com/2009/07/31/report-mitsubishi-confirms-it-will-launch-extended-range-electric-car-in-2010/#comment-132359 Neutron Flux Mon, 03 Aug 2009 13:15:03 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1774#comment-132359 Neither ! Traitor! Volt! Just kidding, which ever you can afford & can get your hands on, anything is better than pure ICE. Neither ! Traitor! Volt!

Just kidding, which ever you can afford & can get your hands on, anything is better than pure ICE.

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