Comments on: Q&A with Ian Clifford CEO of Zenn Motors: EEStor to Publicly Prove its Technology Imminently http://gm-volt.com/2009/07/20/qa-with-ian-clifford-ceo-of-zenn-motors-eestor-to-publicly-prove-its-technology-imminently/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:11:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Synic http://gm-volt.com/2009/07/20/qa-with-ian-clifford-ceo-of-zenn-motors-eestor-to-publicly-prove-its-technology-imminently/#comment-162184 Synic Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:31:33 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1766#comment-162184 I have a lot less trouble believing in the eestor technology than I do in the free market. I think the biggest risk for this product coming to market is that it will be swallowed by the US military and/or suppressed by huge competeing energy businesses. Although real we will not benefit from it for decades. I have just a little hope that Clifford can dodge the bullet and launch his drive trains. That is why I have put a little money on ZNN. I have a lot less trouble believing in the eestor technology than I do in the free market. I think the biggest risk for this product coming to market is that it will be swallowed by the US military and/or suppressed by huge competeing energy businesses. Although real we will not benefit from it for decades. I have just a little hope that Clifford can dodge the bullet and launch his drive trains. That is why I have put a little money on ZNN.

]]> By: cheesehead http://gm-volt.com/2009/07/20/qa-with-ian-clifford-ceo-of-zenn-motors-eestor-to-publicly-prove-its-technology-imminently/#comment-155977 cheesehead Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:12:52 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1766#comment-155977 Quote "Although no-one has ever publicly confirmed seeing an EESU in operation, these devices have the potential" Well, there you have it folks, more Fantastic Cheese ! No one has ever tasted or seen Fantastic Cheese, but the milk has been seen, and by gosh verified by third party individuals, (with no names though). Quote "And a few weeks ago EESTOR made the public statement that they anticipate having at-voltage components verified independently by September of this year." -July 20, 2009. Question everyone ? It's November 4th, so where is the public announcement about verification of at-voltage components ? ? ? ? ? More Fantastic Cheese ! It's hilarious. My stomach hurts from laughing ! The cheese vats are almost ready, and the milk has been verified to taste reeeeally good. My mouth is watering ! Har, har, har, har ! Stop it Ian, my stomach hurts ! Quote "It's a standard permittivity capacitance test on a powder in a matrix." So, they did a low voltage test on a powder folks. Doesn't sound like a high voltage test using their 'fantastic cheese' dialectric, so sorry Ian, doesn't really impress any one. Quote "Have you actually seen one of the devices functioning ? That gets into the point of non disclosure." So, you can talk about a special unique dielectric material , and also tell us that EESTOR stores their energy at around 3500V, but you can't say whether you've seen a working prototype ? Whew ! Oh boy ! I't still so obvious that there is not a working prototype ! Time to move on here folks, nothing new, nothing new. Another missed deadline in September, nothing new. Please don't hold your breath for "clear demonstrations, around the world in 2010" folks, instead just sign up now for some special Fantastic Cheese. Soon to be verified, and on the store shelves in 2010 ! After all we have the Fantastic Cows, we have the barns, we have the cheese vats almost finished, and the milk sure tastes reeeeeally good ! Makes your mouth water doesn't it ! Independent sources have even stated seeing huge piles of manure near our Fantastic Cows. Rumor has it that it is bull manure. Lots of Luck folks, the cheese is almost ready ! Keep buying stock in our cows please, because of course we've got our hopes on those cows too. Soon to come : more cheezy announcements, and no new facts. Delivery is still right around the corner, you wait and see ! Quote “Although no-one has ever publicly confirmed seeing an EESU in operation, these devices have the potential”

Well, there you have it folks, more Fantastic Cheese ! No one has ever tasted or seen Fantastic Cheese, but the milk has been seen, and by gosh verified by third party individuals, (with no names though).

Quote “And a few weeks ago EESTOR made the public statement that they anticipate having at-voltage components verified independently by September of this year.” -July 20, 2009.

Question everyone ? It’s November 4th, so where is the public announcement about verification of at-voltage components ? ? ? ? ?

More Fantastic Cheese ! It’s hilarious. My stomach hurts from laughing ! The cheese vats are almost ready, and the milk has been verified to taste reeeeally good. My mouth is watering ! Har, har, har, har ! Stop it Ian, my stomach hurts !

Quote “It’s a standard permittivity capacitance test on a powder in a matrix.”

So, they did a low voltage test on a powder folks. Doesn’t sound like a high voltage test using their ‘fantastic cheese’ dialectric, so sorry Ian, doesn’t really impress any one.

Quote “Have you actually seen one of the devices functioning ? That gets into the point of non disclosure.”

So, you can talk about a special unique dielectric material , and also tell us that EESTOR stores their energy at around 3500V, but you can’t say whether you’ve seen a working prototype ? Whew ! Oh boy ! I’t still so obvious that there is not a working prototype !

Time to move on here folks, nothing new, nothing new. Another missed deadline in September, nothing new. Please don’t hold your breath for “clear demonstrations, around the world in 2010″ folks, instead just sign up now for some special Fantastic Cheese. Soon to be verified, and on the store shelves in 2010 ! After all we have the Fantastic Cows, we have the barns, we have the cheese vats almost finished, and the milk sure tastes reeeeeally good ! Makes your mouth water doesn’t it !

Independent sources have even stated seeing huge piles of manure near our Fantastic Cows. Rumor has it that it is bull manure. Lots of Luck folks, the cheese is almost ready ! Keep buying stock in our cows please, because of course we’ve got our hopes on those cows too.

Soon to come : more cheezy announcements, and no new facts. Delivery is still right around the corner, you wait and see !

]]> By: DaveO http://gm-volt.com/2009/07/20/qa-with-ian-clifford-ceo-of-zenn-motors-eestor-to-publicly-prove-its-technology-imminently/#comment-155508 DaveO Sun, 01 Nov 2009 02:48:43 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1766#comment-155508 It is funny how many people think they know a lot about everything. First off Zenn is a real company and they currently produce real LEV cars. I have driven one they are very cool in a low speed kind of way. Next EEStor is a real company they will deliver it is just when. Third in order to get a DOD loan you do not have to include a prototype anyone that tells you that is a liar or just ignorant you choose. Most of you have never seen a million dollars but we know it exsist. New technology has always been doubted by many and then shazaam it is a main stream product. Think back to the Microwave all of the doubters now they are dead or own one. Why always be pesimistic about new technology just because they don't invite you to a tour does not mean it is not real. Get a life. It is funny how many people think they know a lot about everything. First off Zenn is a real company and they currently produce real LEV cars. I have driven one they are very cool in a low speed kind of way. Next EEStor is a real company they will deliver it is just when. Third in order to get a DOD loan you do not have to include a prototype anyone that tells you that is a liar or just ignorant you choose. Most of you have never seen a million dollars but we know it exsist. New technology has always been doubted by many and then shazaam it is a main stream product. Think back to the Microwave all of the doubters now they are dead or own one. Why always be pesimistic about new technology just because they don’t invite you to a tour does not mean it is not real. Get a life.

]]> By: al http://gm-volt.com/2009/07/20/qa-with-ian-clifford-ceo-of-zenn-motors-eestor-to-publicly-prove-its-technology-imminently/#comment-148200 al Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:27:53 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1766#comment-148200 It would take more than a "couple". The model 94F that you cite has 73.2 Watt Hours of capacity. The Chevy Volt has about 16,000 Watt Hours of capacity. Thus, it would take 219 of the 94F for the equivalent. The 94F model weighs 25 Kg, that's 55 pounds. 219 of them weigh over 12,000 pounds. So, we wait for the pixie dust, which in the case of eestor is 52,000 Watt Hours in 285 pounds. If it ever works. It would take more than a “couple”. The model 94F that you cite has 73.2 Watt Hours of capacity. The Chevy Volt has about 16,000 Watt Hours of capacity. Thus, it would take 219 of the 94F for the equivalent. The 94F model weighs 25 Kg, that’s 55 pounds. 219 of them weigh over 12,000 pounds.

So, we wait for the pixie dust, which in the case of eestor is 52,000 Watt Hours in 285 pounds. If it ever works.

]]> By: Bacher http://gm-volt.com/2009/07/20/qa-with-ian-clifford-ceo-of-zenn-motors-eestor-to-publicly-prove-its-technology-imminently/#comment-145506 Bacher Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:21:45 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1766#comment-145506 Bonjour, Je suis en France et j'espère que la "VOLT" ne subira pas le même sort que la "EV1" et qu'il y en aura plein partout dans le monde. Vous devriez venir en vendre en Europe, je suis sûr que ca marcherait. Très cordialement. Bonjour,
Je suis en France et j’espère que la “VOLT” ne subira pas le même sort que la “EV1″ et qu’il y en aura plein partout dans le monde.
Vous devriez venir en vendre en Europe, je suis sûr que ca marcherait.
Très cordialement.

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