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	<title>Comments on: GM Advanced Battery Lab Tour w/ Video Part II</title>
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		<title>By: CS Guy</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2009/07/01/gm-advanced-battery-lab-tour-w-video-part-ii/#comment-124260</link>
		<dc:creator>CS Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Riley, you are certainly entitled to your opinion but I must disagree with you about the potential of &quot;drill, baby, drill&quot; to get us out of our current energy trade imbalance (getting 2/3 of our oil from foreign sources, unfriendly nations).

President Ronald Reagan in the 1980s gave the US oil companies whatever they asked for. The oil companies have tens of thousands of square miles that is given to them for oil exploration and drilling. Instead of drilling and pumping us out of foreign oil dependence they have pushed the country even further under the control of foreign oil dictators. Meanwhile domestic oil production has declined over the same period.

I feel sorry for you that you believe the fairy tale told by the oil companies. If they could have drilled us out of this mess then why have they not done so over the past 30 years? The fact is most of our huge oil fields are drying up and whatever new fields they find are much smaller and therefore will be used up that much sooner.

I&#039;d love to keep my head stuck in the sand and hum a happy tune to drown out the numerous and well documented facts pointing to the end of oil here in the US far sooner than the middle east. But I know that doing so will just be passing the hard choices along to our children (not our grandchildren - we don&#039;t have that much time IMO).

We need to tackle the problem of our oil dependence before it becomes life or death for our children and their families.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
&gt;&gt;&gt; NO PLUG=NO SALE! &lt;&lt;&lt;
Electric cars + Nuclear Power 40% + Geothermal/Hydro 10% + Solar and Wind 50% + (Coal/Gas/Fossil Fuels 0%) = American Energy Independence and Environment Protection

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Riley, you are certainly entitled to your opinion but I must disagree with you about the potential of &#8220;drill, baby, drill&#8221; to get us out of our current energy trade imbalance (getting 2/3 of our oil from foreign sources, unfriendly nations).</p>
<p>President Ronald Reagan in the 1980s gave the US oil companies whatever they asked for. The oil companies have tens of thousands of square miles that is given to them for oil exploration and drilling. Instead of drilling and pumping us out of foreign oil dependence they have pushed the country even further under the control of foreign oil dictators. Meanwhile domestic oil production has declined over the same period.</p>
<p>I feel sorry for you that you believe the fairy tale told by the oil companies. If they could have drilled us out of this mess then why have they not done so over the past 30 years? The fact is most of our huge oil fields are drying up and whatever new fields they find are much smaller and therefore will be used up that much sooner.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to keep my head stuck in the sand and hum a happy tune to drown out the numerous and well documented facts pointing to the end of oil here in the US far sooner than the middle east. But I know that doing so will just be passing the hard choices along to our children (not our grandchildren &#8211; we don&#8217;t have that much time IMO).</p>
<p>We need to tackle the problem of our oil dependence before it becomes life or death for our children and their families.</p>
<p>- &#8211; - &#8211; - &#8211; - &#8211; - &#8211; - &#8211; - &#8211; - &#8211; - &#8211; -<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; NO PLUG=NO SALE! &lt;&lt;&lt;<br />
Electric cars + Nuclear Power 40% + Geothermal/Hydro 10% + Solar and Wind 50% + (Coal/Gas/Fossil Fuels 0%) = American Energy Independence and Environment Protection</p>
<p>&#8230; and JOBS FOR AMERICANS</p>
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		<title>By: N Riley</title>
		<link>http://gm-volt.com/2009/07/01/gm-advanced-battery-lab-tour-w-video-part-ii/#comment-124065</link>
		<dc:creator>N Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know enough about Chalmers Johnson to make an intelligent reply.  What little I know is that he is an expert in many areas of governmental affairs and world situations.  His &quot;opinions&quot; of f global empires are just that, opinions.  Educated opinion, I will admit.  I don&#039;t know that he is right or wrong.  To many people his opinions would have the &quot;ring of truth&quot; to them while to others they would most certainly not.  I don&#039;t know where I stand in relation to his opinions.  I just don&#039;t know enough.  I suppose I could throw out a name that would be in opposition to Johnson&#039;s that you might not know anything about and we would be at the same point again.  No need to do that. 

Let&#039;s just agree that the world needs real statesmen who can accomplish what no one else has been able to do before.  Bring ever lasting world peace.  (And not through a world government.  Most of us are not yet ready for that idea.)  I don&#039;t see any real statesmen on the current world scene.  Nor do I of any waiting their turn at governmental authority.  The world can certainly use some true statesmen and a lot of improvement in all areas.  Education, health, government, everything.   A lot more freedom for many of the world&#039;s people would go a long way towards helping to improve things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know enough about Chalmers Johnson to make an intelligent reply.  What little I know is that he is an expert in many areas of governmental affairs and world situations.  His &#8220;opinions&#8221; of f global empires are just that, opinions.  Educated opinion, I will admit.  I don&#8217;t know that he is right or wrong.  To many people his opinions would have the &#8220;ring of truth&#8221; to them while to others they would most certainly not.  I don&#8217;t know where I stand in relation to his opinions.  I just don&#8217;t know enough.  I suppose I could throw out a name that would be in opposition to Johnson&#8217;s that you might not know anything about and we would be at the same point again.  No need to do that. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s just agree that the world needs real statesmen who can accomplish what no one else has been able to do before.  Bring ever lasting world peace.  (And not through a world government.  Most of us are not yet ready for that idea.)  I don&#8217;t see any real statesmen on the current world scene.  Nor do I of any waiting their turn at governmental authority.  The world can certainly use some true statesmen and a lot of improvement in all areas.  Education, health, government, everything.   A lot more freedom for many of the world&#8217;s people would go a long way towards helping to improve things.</p>
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		<title>By: Noel Park</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noel Park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I agree with you on many issues as well.  I think that you will note that I have said so many times.  Views of the real world are in the eye of the beholder.  Here it is clear that we will not agree.

I will leave you with two words - Chalmers Johnson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I agree with you on many issues as well.  I think that you will note that I have said so many times.  Views of the real world are in the eye of the beholder.  Here it is clear that we will not agree.</p>
<p>I will leave you with two words &#8211; Chalmers Johnson.</p>
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		<title>By: Herm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This will be a source of nitpicking for many decades to come.. how do you measure the cell voltage?.. it ranges all over the place. How is GM rating the pack?.. its a big secret that will be used in future advertising.

Freshly charged to 100% lithium-manganese cells are 4.2v, but under load they soon drop to 3.5-3.6 volts and stay there for a while... BUT GM is not charging these cells to 100%, voltage will be lower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This will be a source of nitpicking for many decades to come.. how do you measure the cell voltage?.. it ranges all over the place. How is GM rating the pack?.. its a big secret that will be used in future advertising.</p>
<p>Freshly charged to 100% lithium-manganese cells are 4.2v, but under load they soon drop to 3.5-3.6 volts and stay there for a while&#8230; BUT GM is not charging these cells to 100%, voltage will be lower.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has taken 300 years for the health system to arrive at it&#039;s current form. This encompasses the clinics, the co-pays, the ER&#039;s, the rehabs, and the hospitals. 

In this 300 years time society has made small changes to refine and improve short comings within the medical service system. This is done month to month and is aimed at providing a better medical future.

Health providers make up 1/6th of the GDP of America. Many hard working, well schooled individuals along with bio medical and pharmaceutical companies are doing well within the medical provider community. They have earned the high pay. They are not average, they are above average in intelligence. 

People who want to be covered by medical insurance either work for an insurance provider. Or simply buy insurance. Others pay full price as they go. 

Obama&#039;s new system is installed. Companies no longer need to provide medical insurance to their employees because tax dollars will pay for everyone&#039;s medical bill. Then companies will pay their employees more because they don&#039;t have the burden of providing the health benefit, right? 

WRONG! The owners of companies, the ones who pay for free community medical coverage through higher taxes, will buy boats and vacation on Lake Mead.

Society, in whole, has an incentive to be strong and to improve by having to struggle a little and work for what we attain. As I said in a prior post. The new system is incentive for dodging having to work at all. And an incentive for self abuse as American Medical Response will always arrive (for free) to pick losers off the floor for another CT scan and week long hospital stay.

I worked for a company (15 years ago) which went from Health Net insurance to a budget fly-by-night plan. My dentist of 10 years, schooled at a credited Southern California University, was replaced by a dentist from India. The first time I walked into his office I was greeted with, &quot;You here for a root canal?&quot;. I replied, &quot;No, I need a routine yearly check up please&quot;.

Good intent, bad idea.

=D~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has taken 300 years for the health system to arrive at it&#8217;s current form. This encompasses the clinics, the co-pays, the ER&#8217;s, the rehabs, and the hospitals. </p>
<p>In this 300 years time society has made small changes to refine and improve short comings within the medical service system. This is done month to month and is aimed at providing a better medical future.</p>
<p>Health providers make up 1/6th of the GDP of America. Many hard working, well schooled individuals along with bio medical and pharmaceutical companies are doing well within the medical provider community. They have earned the high pay. They are not average, they are above average in intelligence. </p>
<p>People who want to be covered by medical insurance either work for an insurance provider. Or simply buy insurance. Others pay full price as they go. </p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s new system is installed. Companies no longer need to provide medical insurance to their employees because tax dollars will pay for everyone&#8217;s medical bill. Then companies will pay their employees more because they don&#8217;t have the burden of providing the health benefit, right? </p>
<p>WRONG! The owners of companies, the ones who pay for free community medical coverage through higher taxes, will buy boats and vacation on Lake Mead.</p>
<p>Society, in whole, has an incentive to be strong and to improve by having to struggle a little and work for what we attain. As I said in a prior post. The new system is incentive for dodging having to work at all. And an incentive for self abuse as American Medical Response will always arrive (for free) to pick losers off the floor for another CT scan and week long hospital stay.</p>
<p>I worked for a company (15 years ago) which went from Health Net insurance to a budget fly-by-night plan. My dentist of 10 years, schooled at a credited Southern California University, was replaced by a dentist from India. The first time I walked into his office I was greeted with, &#8220;You here for a root canal?&#8221;. I replied, &#8220;No, I need a routine yearly check up please&#8221;.</p>
<p>Good intent, bad idea.</p>
<p>=D~</p>
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		<title>By: jeffhre</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeffhre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Auto sales show signs of stability after tough year, but most June sales still worse than May” as of 2 hours ago.

Maybe I&#039;m way too jacked up on caffeine from my tea, lol, but aren&#039;t those two mutually exclusive ideas in one sentence. Twice!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Auto sales show signs of stability after tough year, but most June sales still worse than May” as of 2 hours ago.</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m way too jacked up on caffeine from my tea, lol, but aren&#8217;t those two mutually exclusive ideas in one sentence. Twice!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: N Riley</title>
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		<dc:creator>N Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob G

I agree, more or less.  Mostly more.  We have spent tons of money for oil from foreign sources when we have an adequate supply within our borders and offshore.  I work for an oil company and I have seen the maps with oil reserves marked out ready for congress to OK drilling.  The democrats and the environmental lobby have tied the oil company&#039;s hands for a long time. Plus if we could have built the kind of nuclear power plants that were requested over the last 3 to 4 decades, most of our energy could be coming from electricity and not oil. I am all for generating more and more power from solar, wind, ocean and river currents, hydro-electric dams, nuclear plants, natural gas (but as little as necessary to balance things out) and from clean coal technology.  The cap and trade bill before the senate will bankrupt many businesses in the U.S. and send thousands to the unemployment lines.  Manufacturing plants WILL move operations outside our borders.  We will put our manufacturing base at a huge disadvantage in world trade.  Some of the democrats supporting this bill has called it the greatest revenue generator ever devised.  Revenue for government that will have to turn around and spend it to support the ever expanding unemployment lines.  Obama said today that he believes the unemployment figure would not exceed 10%.  In February he said his economists said with the passage of the stimulus bill it would not exceed 8%.  Many other economists said it would not stop at 10%.  Obama is going to be proven wrong again.  His spending and taxing is going to cause massive unemployment well over 12% and likely approaching 15%.  

Sorry if I offend some of your sensibilities, but I am not in the mood to be nice tonight. I feel the need to say what I think and report what I read and hear.  So that those who disagree with me will know, I am signing off for the night. 

Noel, 

I think a lot of you.  I like most of what you say.  But you live in a realm that does not quite exist in the real world.  Maybe things will turn around and be like you want.  I did say that there are leaders (???) in Washington who have been waiting for exactly the right conditions to exist to bring about the world that you may desire.  Just hold on to you hopes and aspirations.  If these people make through the next election cycle next year you will get your type of world.  Good luck to you.  I hope you and yours fair well in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob G</p>
<p>I agree, more or less.  Mostly more.  We have spent tons of money for oil from foreign sources when we have an adequate supply within our borders and offshore.  I work for an oil company and I have seen the maps with oil reserves marked out ready for congress to OK drilling.  The democrats and the environmental lobby have tied the oil company&#8217;s hands for a long time. Plus if we could have built the kind of nuclear power plants that were requested over the last 3 to 4 decades, most of our energy could be coming from electricity and not oil. I am all for generating more and more power from solar, wind, ocean and river currents, hydro-electric dams, nuclear plants, natural gas (but as little as necessary to balance things out) and from clean coal technology.  The cap and trade bill before the senate will bankrupt many businesses in the U.S. and send thousands to the unemployment lines.  Manufacturing plants WILL move operations outside our borders.  We will put our manufacturing base at a huge disadvantage in world trade.  Some of the democrats supporting this bill has called it the greatest revenue generator ever devised.  Revenue for government that will have to turn around and spend it to support the ever expanding unemployment lines.  Obama said today that he believes the unemployment figure would not exceed 10%.  In February he said his economists said with the passage of the stimulus bill it would not exceed 8%.  Many other economists said it would not stop at 10%.  Obama is going to be proven wrong again.  His spending and taxing is going to cause massive unemployment well over 12% and likely approaching 15%.  </p>
<p>Sorry if I offend some of your sensibilities, but I am not in the mood to be nice tonight. I feel the need to say what I think and report what I read and hear.  So that those who disagree with me will know, I am signing off for the night. </p>
<p>Noel, </p>
<p>I think a lot of you.  I like most of what you say.  But you live in a realm that does not quite exist in the real world.  Maybe things will turn around and be like you want.  I did say that there are leaders (???) in Washington who have been waiting for exactly the right conditions to exist to bring about the world that you may desire.  Just hold on to you hopes and aspirations.  If these people make through the next election cycle next year you will get your type of world.  Good luck to you.  I hope you and yours fair well in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: N Riley</title>
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		<dc:creator>N Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Military Industrial Complex was not the cause of the Roman Empire&#039;s collapse nor the British Empire, nor the French Empire to name just a few. Spending in congress is unsustainable also.  I don&#039;t see anyone really getting upset about that.  Incidentally the United States does not have an &quot;empire&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Military Industrial Complex was not the cause of the Roman Empire&#8217;s collapse nor the British Empire, nor the French Empire to name just a few. Spending in congress is unsustainable also.  I don&#8217;t see anyone really getting upset about that.  Incidentally the United States does not have an &#8220;empire&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tex-Arl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tex-Arl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is my understanding that the MRAP used in Iraq is capable of operating on the roads there---but most of the roads in Afganistan are dirt. A new smaller MRAPII (????) is being built to operate there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is my understanding that the MRAP used in Iraq is capable of operating on the roads there&#8212;but most of the roads in Afganistan are dirt. A new smaller MRAPII (????) is being built to operate there.</p>
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		<title>By: Noel Park</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noel Park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, sarcasm aside, what we&#039;re doing now is unsustainable.  Unless we control it somehow, the Military Industrial Complex will bankrupt the nation.  Thus it has been in every great empire in history, and thus it will be here if we don&#039;t find a better way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, sarcasm aside, what we&#8217;re doing now is unsustainable.  Unless we control it somehow, the Military Industrial Complex will bankrupt the nation.  Thus it has been in every great empire in history, and thus it will be here if we don&#8217;t find a better way.</p>
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