Comments on: Mitsubishi Becomes First Automaker in World to Mass Produce Electric Car: Unveils Production Version i MiEV http://gm-volt.com/2009/06/05/mitsubishi-becomes-first-automker-in-world-to-mass-produce-electric-car-unveils-production-version-i-miev/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:31:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: jefro http://gm-volt.com/2009/06/05/mitsubishi-becomes-first-automker-in-world-to-mass-produce-electric-car-unveils-production-version-i-miev/#comment-119228 jefro Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:26:23 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1696#comment-119228 Does anyone realize you can rent a regular car for a day or so when needed. How many times a year is that? Really? Does anyone realize you can rent a regular car for a day or so when needed.

How many times a year is that? Really?

]]> By: kert http://gm-volt.com/2009/06/05/mitsubishi-becomes-first-automker-in-world-to-mass-produce-electric-car-unveils-production-version-i-miev/#comment-117889 kert Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:36:43 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1696#comment-117889 Bollore/Pininfarina is reportedly now taking orders for their BlueCar/B0 whatever its called. Mostly french reporting. Similar styling to Miev, but promising 250km range on LMP batteries. http://www.bluecar.fr/en/pages-accueil/default.aspx http://www.energyharvestingjournal.com/articles/bluecar-uses-electrodynamic-photovoltaic-harvesting-00001463.asp?sessionid=1 http://www.lefigaro.fr/automobile/2009/05/15/03001-20090515ARTFIG00314-voitures-electriques-le-contre-la-montre-des-constructeurs-.php http://www.europe1.fr/Info/Actualite-France/Economie/Voitures-electriques-les-projets-qui-vont-sortir-des-cartons/(gid)/222805 Bollore/Pininfarina is reportedly now taking orders for their BlueCar/B0 whatever its called. Mostly french reporting.
Similar styling to Miev, but promising 250km range on LMP batteries.

http://www.bluecar.fr/en/pages-accueil/default.aspx

http://www.energyharvestingjournal.com/articles/bluecar-uses-electrodynamic-photovoltaic-harvesting-00001463.asp?sessionid=1
http://www.lefigaro.fr/automobile/2009/05/15/03001-20090515ARTFIG00314-voitures-electriques-le-contre-la-montre-des-constructeurs-.php
http://www.europe1.fr/Info/Actualite-France/Economie/Voitures-electriques-les-projets-qui-vont-sortir-des-cartons/(gid)/222805

]]> By: EVO http://gm-volt.com/2009/06/05/mitsubishi-becomes-first-automker-in-world-to-mass-produce-electric-car-unveils-production-version-i-miev/#comment-117819 EVO Mon, 08 Jun 2009 14:33:12 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1696#comment-117819 @ RB 101 Apparently, you missed all the Volt reviews that consistently noted: 1. Superior off the line launches, for muscle V6 feel. 2. Smooth, seamless acceleration that luxury vehicle makers and drivers lust for, superior to any full gasser. 3. Unmuffled quiet operation that luxury vehicle makers and drivers lust for, superior to any full gasser. Those are all fundamental, intrinsic characteristics of electric drive. It appears that vehicle manufacturers have massive amounts of public education and marketing to do on electric drive, still. "With the Volt GM is taking a path that tries to make electric just the same as ICE, looks the same, drives the same, no difference." @ RB 101

Apparently, you missed all the Volt reviews that consistently noted:
1. Superior off the line launches, for muscle V6 feel.
2. Smooth, seamless acceleration that luxury vehicle makers and drivers lust for, superior to any full gasser.
3. Unmuffled quiet operation that luxury vehicle makers and drivers lust for, superior to any full gasser.

Those are all fundamental, intrinsic characteristics of electric drive.

It appears that vehicle manufacturers have massive amounts of public education and marketing to do on electric drive, still.

“With the Volt GM is taking a path that tries to make electric just the same as ICE, looks the same, drives the same, no difference.”

]]> By: statik http://gm-volt.com/2009/06/05/mitsubishi-becomes-first-automker-in-world-to-mass-produce-electric-car-unveils-production-version-i-miev/#comment-117802 statik Mon, 08 Jun 2009 12:33:31 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1696#comment-117802 #166 kdawg said: I have to call BS on that. I dont have the time to go back on every negative thing you’ve said, but so far (from the data we’ve been given) the Volt schedule is on track and hitting the #’s. I’m pretty sure you negated every announcement of every target date/goal. What if the IVers are completed and they are test driving them in July? What if the Volt does hit showrooms in Nov 2010? What if it gets 40 miles AER? Will you smack yourself in the forehead and say.. oops? Nope, there will just be silence, until the next target is set that you will attempt to tear apart, for what reasons I dont know. When it comes to financials, i believe that is your forte, more power to you, but constant GM bashing becomes a broken record. =================== To call BS, you actually have to back it up. Like me or not, 'anti-GM' or not, I always back up my quotes with historical links and sources. As for the IVers being on schedule, I have never once questioned whether they could get one done by July 1st...so I don't call BS on everything GM says, lol. Two months to prep to hand assemble a production-alike and 5 weeks to build it seems reasonable to me. Here is the thread if you want to look for me saying they won't make it (I assure you it is not there): http://gm-volt.com/2009/05/27/assembly-of-the-first-true-chevy-volt-integration-vehicles-begins-today/ As for, " I dont have the time to go back on every negative thing you’ve said, but so far (from the data we’ve been given) the Volt schedule is on track and hitting the #’s," if have had the time to accuse me, you should also find some examples of me predicting targets or goals GM wasn't going to hit on the Volt...that they did. I've got 3,600+ posts...shouldn't be that hard to find, if I am like you say I am. I honesty can't remember even one. As for being wrong, and then not coping to it. That isn't me either, if I don't understand something and I interpret it wrong, or come to a wrong conclusion about something and someone points it out, I always own it. Besides, if the Volt is in production and in showrooms in November 2010 (well, if GM is delivering Volts to customers in Nov '10, I don't expect to see a Volts lying around dealerships, lol), there will be many a poster wanting to dance on my grave...I promise you, my friend I will be here to take every hit willingly, I certainly have it coming if they make it. Same goes for the 40 mile AER (which for the record, I said it will not make under normal driving conditions...like what is expected here of the iMiev, a city/highway/normal use blend. I think, like the i-MiEV, in a vacuum, under perfect conditions it can hit 40). I think I already get this one though, because GM has been adding the word 'city' when they talk about it the last couple months. ...anywhoo, I think it is probably just us left back here, so I will catch you around (or here, if you really want to) #166 kdawg said:

I have to call BS on that. I dont have the time to go back on every negative thing you’ve said, but so far (from the data we’ve been given) the Volt schedule is on track and hitting the #’s. I’m pretty sure you negated every announcement of every target date/goal. What if the IVers are completed and they are test driving them in July? What if the Volt does hit showrooms in Nov 2010? What if it gets 40 miles AER? Will you smack yourself in the forehead and say.. oops? Nope, there will just be silence, until the next target is set that you will attempt to tear apart, for what reasons I dont know. When it comes to financials, i believe that is your forte, more power to you, but constant GM bashing becomes a broken record.
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To call BS, you actually have to back it up. Like me or not, ‘anti-GM’ or not, I always back up my quotes with historical links and sources.

As for the IVers being on schedule, I have never once questioned whether they could get one done by July 1st…so I don’t call BS on everything GM says, lol. Two months to prep to hand assemble a production-alike and 5 weeks to build it seems reasonable to me. Here is the thread if you want to look for me saying they won’t make it (I assure you it is not there):
http://gm-volt.com/2009/05/27/assembly-of-the-first-true-chevy-volt-integration-vehicles-begins-today/

As for, ” I dont have the time to go back on every negative thing you’ve said, but so far (from the data we’ve been given) the Volt schedule is on track and hitting the #’s,” if have had the time to accuse me, you should also find some examples of me predicting targets or goals GM wasn’t going to hit on the Volt…that they did. I’ve got 3,600+ posts…shouldn’t be that hard to find, if I am like you say I am. I honesty can’t remember even one.

As for being wrong, and then not coping to it. That isn’t me either, if I don’t understand something and I interpret it wrong, or come to a wrong conclusion about something and someone points it out, I always own it.

Besides, if the Volt is in production and in showrooms in November 2010 (well, if GM is delivering Volts to customers in Nov ’10, I don’t expect to see a Volts lying around dealerships, lol), there will be many a poster wanting to dance on my grave…I promise you, my friend I will be here to take every hit willingly, I certainly have it coming if they make it.

Same goes for the 40 mile AER (which for the record, I said it will not make under normal driving conditions…like what is expected here of the iMiev, a city/highway/normal use blend. I think, like the i-MiEV, in a vacuum, under perfect conditions it can hit 40). I think I already get this one though, because GM has been adding the word ‘city’ when they talk about it the last couple months.

…anywhoo, I think it is probably just us left back here, so I will catch you around (or here, if you really want to)

]]> By: kdawg http://gm-volt.com/2009/06/05/mitsubishi-becomes-first-automker-in-world-to-mass-produce-electric-car-unveils-production-version-i-miev/#comment-117764 kdawg Mon, 08 Jun 2009 02:49:36 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1696#comment-117764 Statik and so far, that has been the right call the past 2.5 years. ----------- I have to call BS on that. I dont have the time to go back on every negative thing you've said, but so far (from the data we've been given) the Volt schedule is on track and hitting the #'s. I'm pretty sure you negated every announcement of every target date/goal. What if the IVers are completed and they are test driving them in July? What if the Volt does hit showrooms in Nov 2010? What if it gets 40 miles AER? Will you smack yourself in the forehead and say.. oops? Nope, there will just be silence, until the next target is set that you will attempt to tear apart, for what reasons I dont know. When it comes to financials, i believe that is your forte, more power to you, but constant GM bashing becomes a broken record. Statik
and so far, that has been the right call the past 2.5 years.
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I have to call BS on that. I dont have the time to go back on every negative thing you’ve said, but so far (from the data we’ve been given) the Volt schedule is on track and hitting the #’s. I’m pretty sure you negated every announcement of every target date/goal. What if the IVers are completed and they are test driving them in July? What if the Volt does hit showrooms in Nov 2010? What if it gets 40 miles AER? Will you smack yourself in the forehead and say.. oops? Nope, there will just be silence, until the next target is set that you will attempt to tear apart, for what reasons I dont know. When it comes to financials, i believe that is your forte, more power to you, but constant GM bashing becomes a broken record.

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