In reality, I expect it has more to do the the size of a human’s “tank” than the car’s tank. Most people probably need a pit stop much more often than their car does on long trips.

So a 500 or 600 mile range would be overkill from a biological standpoint. Seven or eight hours? I don’t think so. Lets not forget this all about transporting humans from place to place.

There’s no gas tank on my electric vehicle, so I don’t have anywhere on it to pour cellulosic ethanol/alchohol. Why do several folks on this thread want me to put bio-fuels in my all electric motorcycle? Weird.

If my local large wind farm starts doing local bio-fuel feedstock harvests and refining and integrates the power from it to their output at a reasonable cost, I’ll consider using it. In the meantime, I’ll stick with my pure wind power.

I had to do my first maintenance on my two year old electric motorcycle today. New front brake pads. It took me 5 minutes to replace them. Total cost – $15. Yes, I ride it like a total hoon.

“#67 EV Owner — The fastest way to get to your goal of not using OPEC oil is, as Dave G is wont to point out, to use bio-fuels. An acre planted in miscanthus might get you 4000 gallons of fuel (27 tons of miscanthus per acre and 160 gallons of fuel per ton), which, while not as energy dense as gasoline, would be enough for several lifetimes of cross country trips.”
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It would also take you several lifetimes to earn the money to pay for 4,000 gallons of cellulosic ethanol, and that is not going to change until someone comes up with a commercial scale process for making cellulosic alcohol. So far no one has been able to do that.

It might happen it might not.

“Well those are sources but I think they’re not very good”
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Well I can’t do better than a direct video quote from the projects founder and a comment from the VP of design (and yes it was from December 2007, but that was when they ACTUALLY did the wind tunnel testing and came up with the design you see now…as the picture in the article clearly shows). You came at me with, “Where the heck did that number come from? The only information I know….” and I gave you two really good, hard sources. If you don’t want to acknowledge that…what can I do? I can’t get a sworn affidavit from someone who can certify the number.

If you want to go with a Wired magazine article, and a loose, unspecific quote from Posawatz saying the Volt will be “very close” to that of the EV1, which was .19, and draw conculusions that it will surely be lower than the Prius’ .25….well, you go for it.

Although you know darn well, that the Volt is going to be nowhere near the EV1, you understand how Cd/CdA works…it is impossible, just look at the two cars, lol

http://www.gm-volt.com/e/ev1volt.jpg

You don’t have to be first to be the best.
You don’t want to be first if you’re going to be last in quality.
We don’t want anyone to make anything if it is an extremely
terrible lemon, just so they can say they “have” something to sell you “first”. And believe me, they will certainly want to unload their terrible “tossed-together” experiment onto you to clear their financial books!! Everything you bought will become worthless all too quickly. Be skeptical as hell, my friends, if it ain’t GM’s careful engineers making it for you.
Dan Petit Austin TX

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I know. I know. This is the story of my life. Always in a hurry to get there with everything. Well…..almost everything.