Comments on: Honda Shifts Gears on Plug-in Electric Cars http://gm-volt.com/2009/04/26/honda-shifts-gears-on-plug-in-electric-cars/ Real-time news, information, and discussion about the Chevrolet Volt. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:55:54 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: joe obrien http://gm-volt.com/2009/04/26/honda-shifts-gears-on-plug-in-electric-cars/#comment-110555 joe obrien Fri, 01 May 2009 06:21:36 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1637#comment-110555 LOL @ #6 LOL @ #6

]]> By: Ken Grubb http://gm-volt.com/2009/04/26/honda-shifts-gears-on-plug-in-electric-cars/#comment-110148 Ken Grubb Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:48:54 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1637#comment-110148 Even Nissan has recently come on board indicating they see the merit of plugins as a bridge to pure EVs--which CEO Carlos Ghosn is hell bent for leather to build. Even Nissan has recently come on board indicating they see the merit of plugins as a bridge to pure EVs–which CEO Carlos Ghosn is hell bent for leather to build.

]]> By: Hoang http://gm-volt.com/2009/04/26/honda-shifts-gears-on-plug-in-electric-cars/#comment-109980 Hoang Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:10:45 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1637#comment-109980 Do you guys see the point here. GM is going at a right direction with the Volt. Howerver, this right direction is not good enough to win Japanese car makers that are going in good and right direction. It is like you to have to build good infratructures first before other industries can take off. My point is developing and manufaturing battery is a must to win the next wave of vehicles and I don't see GM in this direction. My 2 cents Do you guys see the point here. GM is going at a right direction with the Volt. Howerver, this right direction is not good enough to win Japanese car makers that are going in good and right direction.

It is like you to have to build good infratructures first before other industries can take off. My point is developing and manufaturing battery is a must to win the next wave of vehicles and I don’t see GM in this direction.

My 2 cents

]]> By: Luke http://gm-volt.com/2009/04/26/honda-shifts-gears-on-plug-in-electric-cars/#comment-109929 Luke Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:45:13 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1637#comment-109929 BillR's insistence that name-calling is "honest and blunt" really makes me want to put on a Utilikilt and slap him around a little: http://www.utilikilts.com/?page_id=10 All in good humor, of course. :-) It's likely that the Volt will preferable to the Prius -- but only if the Volt is ever manufactured. In the meantime, the Prius in my driveway gets the groceries every week, fetches small items from the hardware store, and is perfectly comfortable during for the occasional thousand-mile road trip. That car has delivered over 100k miles of service to my girlfriend and me, with minimal maintenance and top-tier mileage. It's a tough standard to beat, but Lyle's test drive suggests that they're still in the game. May the Kilt Fairy visit BillR the next time he insists on name-calling, instead of proper grownup discourse. :-) (For the humor-impaired: I'm kidding about the slapping him around part!) BillR’s insistence that name-calling is “honest and blunt” really makes me want to put on a Utilikilt and slap him around a little:
http://www.utilikilts.com/?page_id=10
All in good humor, of course. :-)

It’s likely that the Volt will preferable to the Prius — but only if the Volt is ever manufactured. In the meantime, the Prius in my driveway gets the groceries every week, fetches small items from the hardware store, and is perfectly comfortable during for the occasional thousand-mile road trip. That car has delivered over 100k miles of service to my girlfriend and me, with minimal maintenance and top-tier mileage. It’s a tough standard to beat, but Lyle’s test drive suggests that they’re still in the game.

May the Kilt Fairy visit BillR the next time he insists on name-calling, instead of proper grownup discourse. :-)

(For the humor-impaired: I’m kidding about the slapping him around part!)

]]> By: charlie h http://gm-volt.com/2009/04/26/honda-shifts-gears-on-plug-in-electric-cars/#comment-109757 charlie h Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:12:53 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1637#comment-109757 #150, BillR, "I’m glad you guys enjoy your Prissy. See link in post #139 for vehicle with far superior numbers in terms of gasoline reductions and lower emissions. Happy Motoring!" "Happy Motoring!" is an appropriate salute to Prius owners. The vehicle linked in #139 is not currently available. Happy Waiting! #150, BillR, “I’m glad you guys enjoy your Prissy. See link in post #139 for vehicle with far superior numbers in terms of gasoline reductions and lower emissions. Happy Motoring!”

“Happy Motoring!” is an appropriate salute to Prius owners. The vehicle linked in #139 is not currently available. Happy Waiting!

]]> By: Herm http://gm-volt.com/2009/04/26/honda-shifts-gears-on-plug-in-electric-cars/#comment-109696 Herm Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:08:45 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1637#comment-109696 The Volt will not be a car that can be put into storage for extended periods without plugging it in.. eventually the battery will be damaged. There probably is a constant drain on the battery that must be disconnected before its put into storage. ............................... #145 Mark Z Says: April 27th, 2009 at 4:48 pm BEV or E-Rev? Why do you think GM crushed all those EV-1s? Perhaps leased cars running out of power? The truth is the lithium-ion battery can be permanently damaged if you allow the charge to hit zero. E-Rev helps prevent that, but only if you use the car or keep it plugged in. The Volt will not be a car that can be put into storage for extended periods without plugging it in.. eventually the battery will be damaged.

There probably is a constant drain on the battery that must be disconnected before its put into storage.

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#145 Mark Z Says:
April 27th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
BEV or E-Rev? Why do you think GM crushed all those EV-1s? Perhaps leased cars running out of power? The truth is the lithium-ion battery can be permanently damaged if you allow the charge to hit zero. E-Rev helps prevent that, but only if you use the car or keep it plugged in.

]]> By: Herm http://gm-volt.com/2009/04/26/honda-shifts-gears-on-plug-in-electric-cars/#comment-109695 Herm Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:57:07 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1637#comment-109695 the scary part is that the next generation of the Prius, or just a plug-in battery as an option is far far more likely than a Volt in production past year one or two. the scary part is that the next generation of the Prius, or just a plug-in battery as an option is far far more likely than a Volt in production past year one or two.

]]> By: Herm http://gm-volt.com/2009/04/26/honda-shifts-gears-on-plug-in-electric-cars/#comment-109693 Herm Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:52:13 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1637#comment-109693 The Prius is here and now, the Volt a distant dream from a failed company.. If you really want a major step, and closer to production than the Volt, consider the Mitsubishi iMiev. You should not call anyone a fanboy, glass houses and all that.. :0 ................................ #152 BillR Says: April 27th, 2009 at 9:49 pm The Volt, however, is a major step in oil and emissions reduction beyond the Prissy IMO. You never seem to concede that possibility, but instead always divert to discussions about the next generation Prissy, a plug-in Prissy, or insist that GM “Show Me The Data” SMTD. I guess that’s to be expected from a Prissy fanboy. The Prius is here and now, the Volt a distant dream from a failed company..

If you really want a major step, and closer to production than the Volt, consider the Mitsubishi iMiev.

You should not call anyone a fanboy, glass houses and all that.. :0

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#152 BillR Says:
April 27th, 2009 at 9:49 pm

The Volt, however, is a major step in oil and emissions reduction beyond the Prissy IMO. You never seem to concede that possibility, but instead always divert to discussions about the next generation Prissy, a plug-in Prissy, or insist that GM “Show Me The Data” SMTD. I guess that’s to be expected from a Prissy fanboy.

]]> By: Michael Robinson http://gm-volt.com/2009/04/26/honda-shifts-gears-on-plug-in-electric-cars/#comment-109689 Michael Robinson Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:06:24 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1637#comment-109689 Honda is NOT interested in plug-in cars. The hydrogen Clarity uses a small Lithium ION battery to provide bursts of power when needed. Honda believes that it is simpler to perfect hydrogen cars than it is to perfect plug-in cars and I do too. If Honda is the first company to come out with a commercialized fuel cell car, goodbye GM. Honda is NOT interested in plug-in cars. The hydrogen Clarity uses
a small Lithium ION battery to provide bursts of power when needed.
Honda believes that it is simpler to perfect hydrogen cars than it is
to perfect plug-in cars and I do too. If Honda is the first company
to come out with a commercialized fuel cell car, goodbye GM.

]]> By: BillR http://gm-volt.com/2009/04/26/honda-shifts-gears-on-plug-in-electric-cars/#comment-109677 BillR Tue, 28 Apr 2009 02:49:59 +0000 http://gm-volt.com/?p=1637#comment-109677 John, I will always call your car the Prissy. Sorry you don't like it, but that's me. Call the Volt anything you want. I could give a rat's a$$. I am typically very honest and blunt, and if you don't like that, well, that is your prerogative. I have gone on record saying the Prissy is the most efficient car currently on the market, and it has definately made a step in the right directlon. It is not, however, the final technology for mainstream personal transportation (nor is the Volt for that matter). Technology marches on. The Volt, however, is a major step in oil and emissions reduction beyond the Prissy IMO. You never seem to concede that possibility, but instead always divert to discussions about the next generation Prissy, a plug-in Prissy, or insist that GM "Show Me The Data" SMTD. I guess that's to be expected from a Prissy fanboy. http://john1701a.com/ Take this comment as you like, but other than calling your car a Prissy, everything else I have written seems true from my experience. So there it is, brutal honesty. John,

I will always call your car the Prissy. Sorry you don’t like it, but that’s me. Call the Volt anything you want. I could give a rat’s a$$.

I am typically very honest and blunt, and if you don’t like that, well, that is your prerogative. I have gone on record saying the Prissy is the most efficient car currently on the market, and it has definately made a step in the right directlon. It is not, however, the final technology for mainstream personal transportation (nor is the Volt for that matter). Technology marches on.

The Volt, however, is a major step in oil and emissions reduction beyond the Prissy IMO. You never seem to concede that possibility, but instead always divert to discussions about the next generation Prissy, a plug-in Prissy, or insist that GM “Show Me The Data” SMTD. I guess that’s to be expected from a Prissy fanboy.

http://john1701a.com/

Take this comment as you like, but other than calling your car a Prissy, everything else I have written seems true from my experience.

So there it is, brutal honesty.

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