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		<title>By: GM Still Claims Volt Will Get 40 All Electric Miles Both Highway and City, But Under What Conditions? &#124;</title>
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		<dc:creator>GM Still Claims Volt Will Get 40 All Electric Miles Both Highway and City, But Under What Conditions? &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MDDave</title>
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		<dc:creator>MDDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 23:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Solo, Unless something has changed recently, Southern California, Southern Florida, NYC and DC were expected to be the initial markets, and I assume the will be plenty of them rolling around Michigan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solo, Unless something has changed recently, Southern California, Southern Florida, NYC and DC were expected to be the initial markets, and I assume the will be plenty of them rolling around Michigan.</p>
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		<title>By: Lwesson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lwesson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Certain engineers recommended that no flight be made at certain low temperatures.  The o rings are essential for the multiple component, reusable, solid rocket boosters.  Politicians scrubbed the manned lift vehicle to get the shuttle up and so the cheaper wild Mister Toad ride with solid rockets solution. 

Texas = worst case situation  ;^)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certain engineers recommended that no flight be made at certain low temperatures.  The o rings are essential for the multiple component, reusable, solid rocket boosters.  Politicians scrubbed the manned lift vehicle to get the shuttle up and so the cheaper wild Mister Toad ride with solid rockets solution. </p>
<p>Texas = worst case situation  ;^)</p>
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		<title>By: Michael ,Ohio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael ,Ohio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep in mind,the Prius was way overpriced as well. That being said,MOST cars are overpriced. Compare a small base model BMW to a small Hyundai with all the options (so its a closer comparison). Whats the REAL difference. Not as much as the price would suggest. Everyone talks about how the Volt will be expensive. Thats ok,just make sure its has good options and a nice interior. In other words,a Tesla roadster is &quot;overpriced&quot; compared to a Prius. If  Volt costs 40k,but has the same options any other 40k car comes with,then its a car in that class. Its not over priced. Instead, its a car in that price range that on top of all that,has a really cool electric power train. Personally,I think they should have taken a cue from Tesla Motors. Their idea was that you cant make an electric car cheaper than a gas car right now. You can however make a electric car that performs BETTER than a gas car. In this case,perform better means better gas mileage. Yes,many purchasers of such cars want the raw power. Thats ok. Then there are people who want the gas milage,not because of cost,but becuase we are concerned with the environment. In other words,they may have 100k to spend on a car,but they still refuse to buy a Cadillac Escalade because they just wont drive a vehicle like that. They buy a Prius with all the options. (Personally,I think there should be a Lexus for those people) Maybe the Volt should have been a Caddi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep in mind,the Prius was way overpriced as well. That being said,MOST cars are overpriced. Compare a small base model BMW to a small Hyundai with all the options (so its a closer comparison). Whats the REAL difference. Not as much as the price would suggest. Everyone talks about how the Volt will be expensive. Thats ok,just make sure its has good options and a nice interior. In other words,a Tesla roadster is &#8220;overpriced&#8221; compared to a Prius. If  Volt costs 40k,but has the same options any other 40k car comes with,then its a car in that class. Its not over priced. Instead, its a car in that price range that on top of all that,has a really cool electric power train. Personally,I think they should have taken a cue from Tesla Motors. Their idea was that you cant make an electric car cheaper than a gas car right now. You can however make a electric car that performs BETTER than a gas car. In this case,perform better means better gas mileage. Yes,many purchasers of such cars want the raw power. Thats ok. Then there are people who want the gas milage,not because of cost,but becuase we are concerned with the environment. In other words,they may have 100k to spend on a car,but they still refuse to buy a Cadillac Escalade because they just wont drive a vehicle like that. They buy a Prius with all the options. (Personally,I think there should be a Lexus for those people) Maybe the Volt should have been a Caddi.</p>
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		<title>By: statik</title>
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		<dc:creator>statik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#144 Statik said:

(another) Side note from Disney: Yesterday, I got to sit on stage of my favorite ‘ride’-the Carousel of Progress when it broke down for 10 minutes. I don’t know if it is my fav because no one ever wants to goes on it, (20 mins of quiet with A/C is a nice break)…or that it is hella dated and cheesey, and I like that sort of thing. So I have a nice shot of me sitting with ‘father’ at the kitchen table in the ’40s’

There’s a great big beautiful tomorrow
Shining at the end of ev’ryday
There’s a great big beautiful tomorrow
And tomorrow’s just a dream away
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#145 JEC said:

Statik Ok, off the meds and get back to O’Canada. 
Your candy sweet, poetry is just not befitting you.
We want the old Statik back!
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#152 noel park said:

JEC, I hear you. I don’t think that poem was original anyway. I think it was written by Bob Nardelli, if memory serves.
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I don&#039;t &quot;do&quot; poetry, thats from the Carousel of Progess, enjoy a short clip w/song, lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbFUggYn89E</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#144 Statik said:</p>
<p>(another) Side note from Disney: Yesterday, I got to sit on stage of my favorite ‘ride’-the Carousel of Progress when it broke down for 10 minutes. I don’t know if it is my fav because no one ever wants to goes on it, (20 mins of quiet with A/C is a nice break)…or that it is hella dated and cheesey, and I like that sort of thing. So I have a nice shot of me sitting with ‘father’ at the kitchen table in the ’40s’</p>
<p>There’s a great big beautiful tomorrow<br />
Shining at the end of ev’ryday<br />
There’s a great big beautiful tomorrow<br />
And tomorrow’s just a dream away<br />
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#145 JEC said:</p>
<p>Statik Ok, off the meds and get back to O’Canada.<br />
Your candy sweet, poetry is just not befitting you.<br />
We want the old Statik back!<br />
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#152 noel park said:</p>
<p>JEC, I hear you. I don’t think that poem was original anyway. I think it was written by Bob Nardelli, if memory serves.<br />
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I don&#8217;t &#8220;do&#8221; poetry, thats from the Carousel of Progess, enjoy a short clip w/song, lol:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbFUggYn89E" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbFUggYn89E</a></p>
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		<title>By: Buck Naked</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buck Naked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 03:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why Pontiac?

I thought Pontiac sells more cars than Cadillac and Buick combined. Must be more about profit than sales.

Also Pontiac is the &quot;Excitement Division&quot; of GM. Or Was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why Pontiac?</p>
<p>I thought Pontiac sells more cars than Cadillac and Buick combined. Must be more about profit than sales.</p>
<p>Also Pontiac is the &#8220;Excitement Division&#8221; of GM. Or Was.</p>
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		<title>By: carcus1</title>
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		<dc:creator>carcus1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#150 Koz,

Maybe the headline of this thread should have read:

The Chevy Volt’s Electric Range is 40 Miles in Both Highway and City Driving**

**when using pre-2008 epa city/highway testing procedures</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#150 Koz,</p>
<p>Maybe the headline of this thread should have read:</p>
<p>The Chevy Volt’s Electric Range is 40 Miles in Both Highway and City Driving**</p>
<p>**when using pre-2008 epa city/highway testing procedures</p>
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		<title>By: noel park</title>
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		<dc:creator>noel park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#145 JEC:

I hear you.  I don&#039;t think that poem was original anyway.  I think it was written by Bob Nardelli, if memory serves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#145 JEC:</p>
<p>I hear you.  I don&#8217;t think that poem was original anyway.  I think it was written by Bob Nardelli, if memory serves.</p>
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		<title>By: koz</title>
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		<dc:creator>koz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Dude #149

AER is not a pissing contest. That is great for bragging but non-ICE electric miles actually driven are what really matters to reducing polutions and gasoline consumption. Producing cars that will be bought in volume because they meet more people&#039;s needs and wants are what will get this done, not who has the biggest battery.</description>
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<p>AER is not a pissing contest. That is great for bragging but non-ICE electric miles actually driven are what really matters to reducing polutions and gasoline consumption. Producing cars that will be bought in volume because they meet more people&#8217;s needs and wants are what will get this done, not who has the biggest battery.</p>
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		<title>By: koz</title>
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		<dc:creator>koz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carcus1 #148

I was dismissing the US06 cycle, not because it is based on bad criteria (they are as good as any) but rather because it&#039;s results are not readily known. IMO US06 is reasonable as an indicator for relatively aggressive drivers with short combined hwy/city commutes. Even if you know your current vehicles US06 rating, how would you relate this to your individual driving pattern? I suppose you could do the correlation to your overall fuel economy and get a reasonable overall estimate, but I believe reasonable estimates for one&#039;s city and highway AER are more useful and can be done more accurately. Like you said there are 200 million or so US drivers and one cycle certainly does not fit all. I should have mentioned 2008 EPA rating criteria not &quot;tests&quot; or &quot;cycle&quot;.  I thought they had adjusted the city and hwy cycles not simple combined additional criteria. This means that to &quot;calibrate&quot; your individual driving to the Volt&#039;s AER, the city and highway cyle ratings alone (or 2007 and prior EPA rated mileage) should be used. This lowers my expectations of AER to 36 miles hwy (72mph, A/C, light traffic) and 38 miles city (&lt;2 mile ave trip, A/C, med acceleration).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carcus1 #148</p>
<p>I was dismissing the US06 cycle, not because it is based on bad criteria (they are as good as any) but rather because it&#8217;s results are not readily known. IMO US06 is reasonable as an indicator for relatively aggressive drivers with short combined hwy/city commutes. Even if you know your current vehicles US06 rating, how would you relate this to your individual driving pattern? I suppose you could do the correlation to your overall fuel economy and get a reasonable overall estimate, but I believe reasonable estimates for one&#8217;s city and highway AER are more useful and can be done more accurately. Like you said there are 200 million or so US drivers and one cycle certainly does not fit all. I should have mentioned 2008 EPA rating criteria not &#8220;tests&#8221; or &#8220;cycle&#8221;.  I thought they had adjusted the city and hwy cycles not simple combined additional criteria. This means that to &#8220;calibrate&#8221; your individual driving to the Volt&#8217;s AER, the city and highway cyle ratings alone (or 2007 and prior EPA rated mileage) should be used. This lowers my expectations of AER to 36 miles hwy (72mph, A/C, light traffic) and 38 miles city (&lt;2 mile ave trip, A/C, med acceleration).</p>
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